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Just ingested 500mg of Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, for science.

What experiments would you like me to carry out. I have about 20 minutes left before it kicks in.

>> No.4700075

Does that even do anything?

>> No.4700085

>>4700075
From what I've heard: YES. HUGE FUCKING YES.

Update:
My limbs etc are feeling a bit heavy, it has only been 10 minutes. Might be a placebo effect.

>> No.4700091

Get behind the wheel of a car, OP.

ROAD TRIP

>> No.4700096

Take another 200mg otherwise you won't trip much.

>> No.4700097

fold you clothing, trust me its epic

>> No.4700098

>>4700091
I don't think that would be wise, my limbs are already feeling very heavy and with this sensation I can only imagine will worsen, driving would be quite dangerous.

I am willing to carry out any other (oh shit, hand twitched just then) experiment which won't endanger lives.

>> No.4700100

Masturbate and report back.

>> No.4700101

>>4700096
My body weight is only 400mg, the effects are already kicking in. Maybe the fact that I used quick release gel capsules makes a difference?

>> No.4700102

do push ups?

>> No.4700103

Woops I mean 140lbs, I'm 140lbs.

>>4700100
Okay, I'll wait another 15 minutes for the full effect to take over.

>> No.4700107

>>4700102
Well I'm already feeling fucked so I just did that one now. I managed a grand total of half of one. I can typically manage 60 on a good day. Very heavy, can't understand why it's hitting so quick.

>> No.4700109

>>4700107
OMG YOURE DYING OP!
Go stare at your face in a mirror and watch as your flesh starts to slough off.

>> No.4700110

Do some math, post results.

>> No.4700112

>>4700097
This. Or wash your windows with Windex. OMG.

>> No.4700113

>>4700110
Unintentional failed sage was unintentional.

>> No.4700114

Is this a psychedelic like LSD or does it cause dissonance like Ketamine?

>> No.4700116

did you eat any thing before taking it?

>> No.4700118

>>4700109
Shut the fuck up, that's not cool bro.

>> No.4700119

Watch out, everybody. OP took Bendadryl.

>> No.4700120

>Diphenhydramine has sedative properties and is widely used in nonprescription sleep aids, with a maximum recommended dose of 50 mg (as the hydrochloride salt) being mandated by the U.S. FDA. In the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and other countries, a 50–100 mg recommended dose is permitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine

enjoy your death OP.

>> No.4700121

Enjoy your heart palpitations and panic attacks.

>> No.4700125

omg im sick of all the children trolling around
take some shit ur self then u will see what an ass u are.
op do simple things like folding clothes, washing ur windo's, and other things thta never seemed intresting, until now.

>> No.4700127

It's really strong now my heary rate is very uncomfortanle i witnesed a flash of light from my left eye peripheral SO TIRED BUT PROMISE I WILL NOT SLEEP! Typing is labored. been about 30 minute

>> No.4700129

>>4700125
>Maybe if I type in all lowercase and sprinkle a few letter swap errors, they won't think it's me, OP.

>> No.4700131

500mg ain't a lot. Take at least 500mg more.

>> No.4700133

Quick, jerk off before you lose consciousness.

>> No.4700135

>>4700127
Bennys confirmed side effect is bad spelling.

>> No.4700138

>>4700114
Neither. It makes you believe the hallucinations are real. AKA: True Hallucinations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliriant

>> No.4700139

>>4700125
I dont think my reactions are normal to this drug it came on very quickly ant. My concentration just came back now but when I look away from the walls they look like they are pulsing, I can barely fucking read the captcha, my friend is watching soaps, Im slightly concerned

>> No.4700142

once i sniffed creatine, shit was so cash $$$

>> No.4700144

setup livestream asap for science

>> No.4700143

>>4700127
Try to keep your mind busy. Play a video game, go for a walk etc.

>> No.4700146

do you have a sober friend in the room?

>> No.4700150

>>4700138
Sounds awful.

>> No.4700152

>>4700133
I won't pass out my concentration is back but my head is getting heavier kinda like a faint but only for tiredness, no hallucinations apart from light pulse and walls. I keep zoning in and out of concentration, a. might get friend to write as I can feel it coming on again stronger

>> No.4700154

Do you have someone to take care of you in case you freak out?

>> No.4700155

Driving yourself delirious and insane with chemicals is fun, healthy and intelligent.

If you're going to do drugs, do the illegal ones.
Good luck anyway OP, not exactly sure what you want to gain from the experience though.

>> No.4700156

ye you should deffinitly have a sober person with you.
and as sayed before try to occupy you're mind,
so you dont focus on the trip itself

>> No.4700160

>>4700154
Me, I'm with him. He's being a bit strange lol he just shouted out "what!" and is staring at the curtains I don't want to disturb him. He dropped at 14:45, 10 Nytol pills.

>> No.4700161

one word! MUSIC!

>> No.4700164

Do you math OP?
If so, think about this one:
<span class="math"> { (x,y) : \lim{n\righarriw\infty} x^n+y^n=1 } [/spoiler]

>> No.4700167

this is an awsome tread dude!

>> No.4700169

>>4700164
He does I will show him in a minute but I don't want to disturb him because he seems to be fixated. He said something about gnats I decided to not tell him there aren't any gnats.

>> No.4700170

>>4700161
>anoice - the black rain

>> No.4700172

>>4700170
no
> Masters Of Hardcore!

>> No.4700174

>>4700164
Okay right so he's on the floor at the moment propped up against the side of the bed. I got a sheet of paper and wrote that down, gave it to him. I don't think it's registering in his brain, he's really zoned out he just looked at me funny and asked me to "get a hat for him".

>> No.4700177

im totally lol
can you post a pic plz?

>> No.4700179

HAHAHAHA he's really bugging out! I've sat him before on salvia but this is mental! He's looking for his bookbag for school? What the fuck! At least I think he said that he sounds like Zoidberg from Futurama.

Inb4 underage, we both left school two years ago!!!!

>> No.4700180

>>4700000

>> No.4700187

Guys what are some things to look out for when sitting someone on DPH? He doesn't look very well to be honest. I think it's normal but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

>> No.4700191

discribe the sitiation?

>> No.4700197

hello, OP still allive?

>> No.4700198

>>4700191
Back. His leg was twitching which has stopped now and he's just staring, his voice is slurred like he's drunk and his eyelids are almost shut. I asked him if he's okay and he told me to "pull my socks up" because "my football shoes are showing".

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4700201

>mfw a fair percentage of /sci/ appears to have tried diphenhydramine before

I thought I was the only one stupid enough to do it.

P.s. Seen any spiders yet OP?

>> No.4700206

>>4700198
That's pretty normal, just check his pulse and tell me how many beats per minute.

>> No.4700218

>>4700198
So far he seems to be taking it well. All these things are normal for hallucinogens.

>> No.4700222

>>4700206
>>4700206
Fuck! I can't tell, it's quite quick but it's waltzing like 1-2-3, 1-2-3? He seems to be a bit better but he thought I was his dad when I put my fingers on his carotid and he was trying to stop me. His speaking has returned somewhat he just sounds very drunk (very), but a minute ago it was very frightening, he sounded like Zoidberg.

>> No.4700223

post more stuf he is saying.
its funny

>> No.4700232

>>4700222
If he freaks out get him to smoke some cigarettes as this lessens the hallucinations by increasing choline levels in the brain, encourage him to talk, people on diphenhydramine often say fucking hilarious things.

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>>4700152

>no hallucinations apart from light pulse and walls

yfw OP is actually talking to shadow people that aren't there while watching a television that isn't even on while eating a disappearing tub of ice cream and doesn't realize any of it isn't real until the next day.


pic very related

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4700241

This is basically what OP is experiencing right now.

>> No.4700238

>>4700223
Some of it is hard to understand because he's slurring his words a lot (he sounds like a Down's Syndrome kid), I think he's okay now because he stopped spasming etc.

When I went to check his pulse he said "dad you're lucky you're light". Now he's just staring at his drawers and not really moving much. Really freaky.

>> No.4700240

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticholinergic#Acute_Anticholinergic_Syndrome

Here's what you can expect from being OP

>> No.4700254

>>4700241
Would suck for him he's terrified of spiders haha... Anyway he seems to be recovering because he just raised his eyebrows as if to say "wtf" and he walked out of the room, I escorted him to the bathroom and I left him there. I'll go back for him if he takes more than 5 minutes.

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4700258

>he's terrified of spiders

Oh shit son, spiders are pretty much the most common hallucination, I suggest you get OP some cigarettes immediately.

>> No.4700270

>>4700254
Woops spoke too soon, he's not coming down. Went back to the bathroom and he's just staring in the mirror murmuring. Tried to take his hand and lead him back, he looked offended and told me to "go get a lollipop-man". I told him he can have a lollipop-man (lol) if he comes with me, but he's being a dick.

Advice?

>> No.4700271

>>4700270
No need to pressure him if he hasn't freaked out. Just stay there with him and keep an eye for any changes in behavior.

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4700284

>>4700270
You know what to do.
Pic related if you don't

>> No.4700287

>>4700284
lol

>> No.4700292

>>4700284
Tormenting a tripping person is a crime comparable to rape.

>> No.4700299

>>4700292
I have to agree on that one.

>> No.4700302 [DELETED] 

>>4700292
Well they were stupid to take the drug in the first place; maybe they will learn from the experience and know it was a bad idea.

>> No.4700306

>>4700302
experimenting on yourself is a great idea

>> No.4700311

>>4700302
If it's bad for them they will find out anyway. You have no right to make that choice for them, it just shows that you're a massive dick.

>> No.4700314

>>4700292
>>4700299
I posted the comic, because it's hilarious, but yeah I agree on these points. Having had bad trips a few times myself I know how much worse they could've been in the wrong company.

>>4700302
If you're stupid enough to be a woman in a relationship then it your own fault if the man beats you.

I bet you assault old people because they're weaker, maybe next time they either stop being old or stay at home where they belong.

>> No.4700315

> Allergy medicine

So hardcore.

>> No.4700316 [DELETED] 

>>4700311
Jumping of from a tall building is a bad idea as well.
The problem is that some people do not find out if something is a bad idea until it is too late.

>> No.4700317

hey how is OP doing?

>> No.4700318

>>4700302
>Well they were stupid to take the drug in the first place; maybe they will learn from the experience and know it was a bad idea.

From my personal experience it was an absolutely awsome idea to take the drugs in the first place.

I was high as fuck, absolutely soaring and it left a positive impression on my that lasted several weeks.

My quality of life was greatly enhanced by it.

>> No.4700326

>>4700315
Deliriants are amongst the most hardcore drugs out there dude, far far far more heavy and intense than LSD, Salvia or even DMT. I would know because I've tried them all. You're the type of guy who would get overwhelmed because you think anything over the counter can't possibly be powerful forgetting the fact that you're overdosing hugely to bring yourself to a near-death delirium/literal insanity. Go drop 10 allergy pills then we'll see if you're still laughing when you come down in New Mexico wearing nothing but your boxers and drinking baby oil.

>> No.4700328

>Drugs are bad mmkay

>> No.4700329

Anyone did DMT ? It's the only thing I really want to try.

>> No.4700331 [DELETED] 

>>4700318
>My quality of life was greatly enhanced by it.
That is what the drug might make you believe, but it is not true.

>> No.4700332

>>4700316
It's not the same. Drugs can go 50/50, they help some, they destroy others. It's up to the individual and his judgement if he wants to get high.

On the other hand, jumping from a tall building will most definitely not have a positive effect since 9/10 times it ends in death and the people who want to experience it are sick in the head, not bored teenagers looking to "broaden their horizons".

>> No.4700335

>>4700331
That's what anti-drug propaganda may lead you to believe, but it's not true. Many important people have take drugs and reflect positevly on it, many scientists have, and nearly all musicians worth a damn have.
tl;dr stop being 13

>> No.4700336

You should do stuff like this to OP
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKjctTWIsw

>> No.4700338

>>4700329
Yes, it took me really far away from my body like I was on a train track and it led me somewhere in space. I think I was on a planet of some kind and I could see stars in the far distance. I let the track take me away further and further until I got to a place I found interesting and fought against the pull to view the surroundings. There were smurf looking creatures mining rocks and the landscape looked a bit like the moon but not really because it was kinda mountainous.

Then, though I didn't will myself to move, the train pulled me again and I went over this rugrats looking junkyard. As I came down I saw this big white room with a table, there was cinammon on the table and it spilt onto the floor in the next scene. The room was huge like it belonged to a giant.

>> No.4700339

>>4700331
dad get of 4chan!

>> No.4700340

>>4700331
>That is what the drug might make you believe, but it is not true.
So drugs can lie to me even when long gone from my system?
Please, we know you're a frigid attention-whore but you don't need to go out of your way to appear completly witless too.

>> No.4700342

I think OP is dead.

>> No.4700345

>>4700331
>That is what the drug might make you believe, but it is not true.

fuck me, not only are chemicals sentient but they have a grasp on both human values and deception

>> No.4700346

>no drugs
>no PCR
>no double helix
>no personal computers

>> No.4700347

hello op! u still alive?

>> No.4700352

>>4700347
He's probably being babysitted in the bathroom.

>> No.4700353

How's purgatory, OP?

>> No.4700354

>>4700331

>I love my girlfriend, my life is greatly enhanced by her
That is what the girlfriend might make you believe, but it is not true.

>I love my job, my life is greatly enhanced by it.
That is what the job might make you believe, but it is not true.

>I love my tripcode, my life is greatly enhanced by it.
That is what the pretension might make you believe, but it is not true.

>> No.4700355 [DELETED] 

>>4700340
Your recollection of the event will not have been accurate. The drug messes with your head.

>> No.4700362

>>4700355

Your recollection of anything ever is not accurate. Your perception messes with your head.

Also

>the drug messes with your head

Because there's only one way to mess with heads, right?

You're like the person that hears a drug can hallucinate, and doesn't understand that there are varying levels and types of hallucinations, and then makes up stories about people on LSD who think they're glasses of orange juice that will spill if they're knocked over.

Did you know drinking caffeine messes with the chemicals in your body? That means that caffeine can cause the chemicals in your body to form dinosaurs and start dancing and destroying cities!

tl;dr different ways to mess with heads, most of them (like LSD, psychedelics) don't affect memory or recollection

>> No.4700365

>>4700355
>>4700302
>>4700316
>>4700331

How can one person possibly spew as much worthless shit in one thread?

>> No.4700368

>>4700326
I've taken 20 50mg tablets of it myself many times. It makes you a zombie, makes you chain smoke butts and gives you dry mouth galore. So much fun.

>> No.4700369

>>4700355
>Your recollection of the event will not have been accurate. The drug messes with your head.
If I remember it as a good event and it leaves a lasting afterglow that I enjoy, who cares if it's misremembered?

Also, it was LSD I took, it doesn't induce true hallucinations or have anamnestic properties. The antihistamine drugs that OP took on the other hand is known for doing just that, inducing true hallucinations that you cannot discern from reality along with anamnesia.

They also lack must of the euphoric part hence why they are not banned and in fact readily availible OTC.

>> No.4700373

>>4700355
You're moronic... I remember my Salvia Divinorum trips perfectly (though a couple of times I have lost memory partway through the "T minus" countdown to blast-off until I become aware in another dimension) I enjoy them immensely, though sometimes if I'm having the "tunnel trip" I reach out to friends to hold me and stop me falling through the loop because it's pretty monotonous and I want to go on more exciting journeys.

>> No.4700375

DPH tends to potentiate DMT, so I take it before sleep to have awesome vivid dreams and stay asleep all night.

>> No.4700378

>>4700368
My worst night was when I did 50 tabs all at once. That's 1250 mg taken with alcohol (wine). There was that oh shit moment, when the pills were in me, and I knew I had about 30 minutes max left of lucidity. 50 grabbed me like I was a dog on a leash and yanked me into its grasp hard. Walking from one room to another became like a dance on a heaving ship in a storm. I grabbed onto anything solid and still ended up on the floor. My body was clenching into itself, or so it felt, and the tenser I became the worse the seizure hit me. I can feel my heart beating so hard, and much energy focused on relaxing my muscles, and breathing normally. Hallucinations at this level were damn scary, stuff that I thought was solid, wasn't even there. Things I don't think are there suddenly are very solid. And I can't rest, or sleep. I could hardly speak at all to tell a friend what was happening to me. I was gone.

>> No.4700379

I feel like a religion vs science thread. LET'S DO THIS

>>4700369
>If I remember it as a good event and it leaves a lasting afterglow that I enjoy, who cares if it's misremembered

If I think of an afterlife as a future, good event that leaves a lasting glow in my life that I enjoy, who cares if I'm wrong?

LETS GET THIS SHIT STARTED

(just thought I'd point out the links to religion/philosophy in that statement, though I'm totally with you supporting psychedelics. Also, don't actually derail this is an interesting thread)

>> No.4700380

>>4700368
>Chain smoke
That's Datura... Is there actually any recreational drug more dangerous than Datura? Erowid refuses to supply dosage information for it because it's so deadly and easy to overdose.

>> No.4700382

>>4700380

I ate two pods of datura about 2cm in diameter before, and all I saw was one monster. And a overwhelming sense of doom.

Maybe the plant was malnurished.

>> No.4700386

>>4700380
Datura contains atropine and scopolamine.
Like DPH they are both anticholinergics and thus have similar effects.

The difference is that the concentration in a plant is by no means standardized and can vary by orders of magnitudes whereas DPH tablets will be a precisely dosed.

>> No.4700387

100 internets to the person who tells me what the "official" name of the meme OP posted is.

>> No.4700389 [DELETED] 

>>4700369
It is not only a bad idea, it is also illegal.

>> No.4700393

>>4700389

And 4chan is illegal in some countries.
Drug laws are arbitrary.

>> No.4700394

>>4700387
An urgent message from batman.png

>> No.4700395 [DELETED] 

>>4700393
Which countries?

>> No.4700397

>>4700389
>It is not only a bad idea, it is also illegal.
DPH abuse is not illegal, neither is eating Deadly Nightshade or Red agaric.
However. They are a bad idea because they give very ugly effects and are potentially lethal. Why yes, alcohol is also legal and yet have ugly effects when abused.

Now LSD or psilocybin mushrooms on the other hand are generally more fun and less dangerous, but unfortunately illegal.

There's of course a number of research drugs that are not illegal and have euphoric effects, but they are not verry well documented so it's always a bit of risk there.

>No fun allowed
Is what drug laws are based upon, not minimizing suffering or any other rational argument.

>> No.4700399

>>4700389

You're jumping between sinking ships, throwing points that will continue to get destroyed while pretending you haven't already been proved wrong and an idiot various times previously.

We've already shown why it's not a bad idea, so you can't just repeat yourself. What you mean to say is "It is a bad idea because it is illegal", not that it's a bad idea separate from being illegal, as we've already disproved that. The illegal thing is certainly a negative, though not enough in most cases to render it a bad idea.

>> No.4700400

>>4700395
>the king of thailand is a fool
thailand
>tiananmen square massacre occurred
china
>south korea is best korea
north korea
>mohammed was a pedo
many many countries

>> No.4700401

>>4700395
North Korea.

By the way, stop being such a little goody-two shoes and you might stop getting shoved in lockers. You're far too square even for Sci. Keep your boring opinions to yourself and go do extra homework or whatever it is you like to do in your free time!!!!

>> No.4700404

Do any of you guys lurk 420chan? Their psychedelic board seems cool, and they have boards for deliriants, etc too

>> No.4700405

>>4700404
I visit occasionally, but i usually stay off the drug boards because it only makes me want to get and use the drugs, which is hard given the low supply here.

>> No.4700407

>>4700389

DMT is illegal and more powerful than psilocybin or LSD, but it is the chemical released at night to allow us to dream. Is smoking DMT while you're awake going to ruin your life? No.

>> No.4700408 [DELETED] 

>>4700397
>>No fun allowed Is what drug laws are based upon, not minimizing suffering or any other rational argument.

The laws were not made pointlessly just to spoil your fun, if that was all they were doing they would have banned basketball and cinemas.
The reason it is illegal is because it is dangerous, it can kill you, and is physiologically harmful in the long term; drugs like LSD can give you schizophrenia and other mental conditions.
Drugs like these are also addictive, and people spend all their money on them and drive themselves into poverty. Then they commit more crimes to fund the addiction.

>> No.4700409

Harriet is a troll, no real arguments just shitty spew without any reason or logic to back it up.

>> No.4700410

>>4700407
>Is smoking DMT while you're awake going to ruin your life? No.
Actually, an experience on psychedelics that go bad can damage you pretty bad.

>> No.4700411 [DELETED] 

>>4700409
And the government, and the police force, and thousands of rational people, are these also trolls?

>> No.4700413

>>4700405

(anyone) ever heard of Silk Road?

Was planning on ordering something from there, looks very interesting (and legit).

>> No.4700417

>>4700408
>it can kill you, and is physiologically harmful in the long term; drugs like LSD can give you schizophrenia and other mental conditions.
Source? There isn't any because they banned scientific studies of LSD and all other psychedelics very shortly after they were introduced. In face even before the hippies, many high level government heads were doing LSD on the regular, as "therapy".

One of the driving factors against psychedelic drugs, was social, not because the government is worried about your well being. It was directly based of fear of the counter culture movement.

>>4700411
The drug war is an extortion racket, which earns many industries billions a year. It's plebes like you that keep the system full of propaganda-induced workers/police/military.

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>>4700410
Or do the exact opposite.
>>4700408
The reason drugs are illegal, even if they had a positive influence on thousands of people (like penicilin for the soul aka MDMA) is because of shitty lobbying corporations not wanting competition in the drug market. So me and other people are forced to promote crime if we use those drugs. But stay classy bro, you and your government goonies are the reason for drug gangs.

The government has no right to regulate what I put in my body, even if it's harmful which most drugs I use, are not.

>> No.4700419

>>4700413
can you get in trouble for ordering from there?

>> No.4700420

>>4700408
> dangerous
Like tobacco and alcohol.
>drugs like LSD can give you schizophrenia and other mental conditions.
They can also treat several conditions but they are banned because retard policy. Also citations on that, they may trigger conditions in latent individuals but the same goes for alcohol and sad movies so t hat argument is shit.
>Drugs like these are also addictive
Hallucinogens? Addictive. Go fuck yourself troll.

>> No.4700422

>>4700413
It's legit but kinda well known, it appeared on Australian news so be careful.
>>4700411
The police force and the government most certainly are trolls.

>> No.4700424

>>4700419
Yeah. That's why you'd better not use your personal address and don't use the same drop zone twice.

>> No.4700426

>>4700424
couldn't they just track you from your payment information anyway?

>> No.4700427 [DELETED] 

>>4700418
>But stay classy bro, you and your government goonies are the reason for drug gangs.
Actually, we are the reason there are not 10 times as may drug gangs.
The police make life vary difficult for them, and a lot of them are caught in imprisoned.
Methods of detection are improving as well; things like using infra-red sensors to detect drug farms.

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>>4700420
>Like tobacco and alcohol.
Less.
Too bad I will never be able to set up a MDMA company with my chemist bros because of retarded multinational tobacco corporations and their governmental puppets.

Feel batman.

>> No.4700430

>>4700426
They use bitcoins for payment on SR.

>> No.4700431

>>4700408

>Drugs like these [LSD] are also addictive

you really have no idea what you're talking about, I can't even be arsed anymore to shout

LSD can be addictive as anything else can be (so don't use that argument on me), but most people really easily see, that moderation is key, and too regular use is difficult anyway because of T.

>> No.4700433

>>4700408
Tell us, if that's the case why are cigarettes legal when cannabis isn't? Nicotine is far deadlier. Government gets a lot of money from nicotine, however, so they don't give a fuck.

>> No.4700432 [DELETED] 

>>4700420
>Like tobacco and alcohol.
Which is why I do not take tobacco, and only small amounts of alcohol infrequently.

>Hallucinogens? Addictive. Go fuck yourself troll.
I am not a troll and they can be addictive. Some people think that they are enjoying the hallucinations so much, that they try to be in a state on constant hallucination and take the drugs very frequently.
This is addiction.

>> No.4700434

Guys, stop feeding this authoritarian troll. She can't bear to imagine that her beloved little government doesn't give a shit about its people, and never will be able to comprehend that it's not the perfect establishment that she wants to believe it is.

By arguing with her, you are just propagating more of her shitposting in an otherwise legitimately interesting thread.

Speaking of which, I wonder how OP is doing atm.

>> No.4700437 [DELETED] 

>>4700433
I think it was a compromise. If a couple of drugs that have effects that are well understood are legalised for recreational use, then it should be enough to satisfy the drugheads who share our community.
Unfortunately they seem determined to break the law anyway.

>> No.4700439

>>4700430
what about being tracked through your computer?

so could you just place an order with your credit card or whatever, have it sent to a PO box and you're good? still seems risky

>> No.4700440

>>4700432
>think that they are enjoying the hallucinations

No, we ARE enjoying the hallucinations you fucking moron. If it was just a post-trip thing where the drug alters our memory to make us think we enjoyed it then I'd be shouting to my friends "AHHH THIS IS HORRIBLE!" during the trip, rather than "this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen!"

This is why you don't have a boyfriend. Stop being such a bore. I feel sorry for your kids if you ever have them, can tell what sort of parent you'd be... The kind where your son is 15 and he still has a 7pm curfew.

>> No.4700441

>>4700427
>Actually, we are the reason there are not 10 times as may drug gangs.

You're so retarded it hurts to read.
Just no.
Because alochol is illegal today, there's 10 times as much alcohol gangs as during the prohibition?
Oh wait... it's legal, there's no gangs anymore, we call them businesses, and there's no violence involved in that anymore.

>> No.4700442

>>4700432
They could tax other drugs too, but don't think that the ''free market'' will allow for competition.
>>4700433
It's psychological addiction of anything, and you can get addicted to skittles too...or the internet or masturbating or anything. Yeah let's just don't do anything but sit and stare at a wall.

Why do we even tolerate tripfagging shits fucking up perfectly good threads here.

>> No.4700446

>>4700426
>>4700424
>>4700419

They have lots of systems set up to promote anonymity, including lots of systems to prevent people finding out your address in any way (only the person you're buying from will see it, and will delete records of it immediately after). Most sellers say not to use a fake address as that's suspicious, though it's probably best to get one thing delivered at a time as the "it must have been someone else ordering to my house / it was a mix-up" excuse I imagine only works once. And I guess shit's different if you're planning on ordering in bulk, but I don't imagine you are.

>> No.4700448

>>4700442
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_rKWdH-ox8

>> No.4700451

>>4700440
There is no such thing as an intelligent person who is also a rude individual. You have shown your true colors and we have no reason to respect you anymore. Good day.

>> No.4700452

>>4700437

Wow you are such a loser!! I can imagine that conversation:

>Hey, mr. president, we need to make a few recreational drugs legal to satisfy the druggies
>Sure sounds good, let's legalize one of the most dangerous and addictive drugs there is, nicotine!
>Excellent plan mr. president, what about cannabis, what should we do with that far more enjoyable and far safer substance?
>No!! That must not be legal!! Nicotine only!!

>> No.4700456

>>4700432
>I am not a troll
Yes you are, but you're too stupid to recognize it.

You regurtitate the same arguments that have been demolished a billion times already, and you regurgitate them in the form that they were presented to and indoctrinated into elementary schoolers.

>> No.4700457

>>4700451
>White knight trying to get in Harriet's panties.

There are at least 100 of us arguing against this pathetic individual. We have great disdain for authoritarian women. I bet she's feminist too.

>> No.4700458

>>4700451
>Intelligence correlates to personality traits
>Being rude yourself making snide comments
>cop out

>> No.4700459 [DELETED] 

>>4700440
I am not boring, I am just sensible.
And I am not going to be a mother who is too strict, but I will at least not want my children to be doing drugs.

>> No.4700460

>>4700451
a lot of smart people are incredibly rude

>> No.4700462

>>4700439

You use your credit card to buy an online currency from a website supplier of bitcoins, the e-currency. You then send those bitcoins from that website to your bitcoin wallet (a program). You then send those bitcoins from your wallet to Silk Road. They then send it to the seller of your drugs. Every step involves lots of security features and tricks to maximize anonymity. Anyone investigating will have a lot of steps to try and get through, and even with ten warrants the records he needs to fill the gaps will probably have been deleted or lost, or unknown in the first place.

So yeah, paying is pretty safe. Unless you use the same username for the first step as the last step as I almost did. The more worrying thing is getting a very heavy package intercepted, though they'll only try to investigate/arrest you for it if it's obvious you're planning on dealing I think. Small amounts they won't bother, customs will just confiscate and send you a letter.

>> No.4700463

I can't believe you guys! OP is probably dead and all you can do is argue with squares over the internet.

>> No.4700464 [DELETED] 

>>4700452
You are very ignorant, there is a reason you are not in government, nor do you have any sort of power.

>> No.4700469 [DELETED] 

>>4700457
Feminists fight for equality, so yes I am.
Do you think that men and women should not be treated equally?

>> No.4700470

holy shit man that's sooo much benadryl i bet your sinuses are feeling maaaaaad decongested right now

>> No.4700465

>>4700459
>Sensible
>having the same exact same opinion and repeatedly false facts that public schools have.

>> No.4700472

>>4700464
You are very ignorant, there is a reason you are not in government, nor do you have any sort of power.
You're also extremely gullible, so you might have a chance to be a useful idiot for some goverment organ, go for it.

>> No.4700475

This is why our country is fucked, the only people that seek power, are the last ones that should have power.

Harriet reminds me of one of those unbearable unfuckable inhuman degenerates. I can just imagine her vagina smelling of vinger and piss.

>> No.4700477 [DELETED] 

>>4700465
Oh really? Just like the 'exact same opinion and repeatedly false facts that public schools have.' for teaching truth in your science textbooks?

Proper education is given, these are just the facts.
You clearly do not like them, but that does not stop them being facts.

>> No.4700478

>>4700459
Overly sensible people = boring. Nobody likes people like you, sorry, but it's true. If your friends chose to spark up a joint you'd stomp it out and call the cops on them. Nobody likes those kinds of people not even the cops.

And right, best not give your kids any aspirin then! That's one mighty dangerous drug I tell you what! All those deaths related to aspirin... You know, a friend of my friend once took a single aspirin and then had a seizure and died! People who take aspirin are foolish.

>> No.4700480

>>4700464
The funny thing is, all I was doing was echoing your logic.

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I think OP's in the hospital/dead, his trip-sitter hasn't posted in over an hour.

P.s. If I ever find out who Harriet !x6oGOnISPY is I'm going to rape her with a sandpaper dildo and then tell her it was her fault.

>> No.4700484

>>4700462
What kind of stuff does SR sell?

This is probably going to sound stupid but can I potentially get in trouble for just visiting/browsing the site? With Google's new privacy policy and shit like that I can never be too sure.

>> No.4700485

>>4700469

He was referring to the negative behavioral traits associated with feminists (biased-ness and ignorance, whether they're appropriate is another argument, you aint jumping onto this ship), you know he was, you're just trying to jump onto new points to change the subject to try and hide the fact that your argument is being repeatedly demolished and you being repeatedly proved retarded.

If she wasn't a tripfag, she would probably be less stubborn and arrogant. It's as if if she admits to being wrong now, her identity will forever be ruined. I think this is the same thinking that politicians have, for the same reasons. Fuck this world.

>> No.4700486

>>4700481
It was obviously the fault of the government because they didn't swoop in at the time when your penis was nearing her fish cunt.

>> No.4700487 [DELETED] 

>>4700478
>Overly sensible people = boring. Nobody likes people like you, sorry, but it's true.
No it is not true.
I have a few friends, and they like the fact that I am sensible and not some sort of out of control drug freak.

>If your friends chose to spark up a joint you'd stomp it out and call the cops on them.
Actually I would not.
Some of my friends do sometimes do drugs, and while I disapprove, and make this clear to them, I will of course never try to get my own friends into any sort of trouble.

>And right, best not give your kids any aspirin then!
Do not be silly. I will of course give my future children any medicine that they require, that have been proven to work and proven to be safe.
I would never give them any unsafe drugs, or any drugs that they do not need.

>> No.4700488

>>4700478
Don't give kids aspirin anyway, their enzymatic pathways can be severely fucked up by it causing potentially fatal consequences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reye's_syndrome

>>4700477
> these are just the facts.
No it's not fact, it's based on some goverment thinktank putting together scary anti-drug propaganda with no relation to pharmacology. If you look up a medical pharmacology book and see the effects of the drugs you'll realize that it's quite different from what the goverment pamphlets say.

>> No.4700489

>>4700469
>Feminists fight for equality, so yes I am.

I knew it! Feminist scum, you're all the same! And yes I believe in equality, do you? As an equal to men, you get to enjoy fantastic luxuries such as conscription and skewed judging systems which means during a divorce the man gets half of your income! Score!

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>>4700481

heh sexual assault! your the next dane cook dude

>> No.4700492

Any other /del/vers in this thread?

>> No.4700493

>>4700486
>implying I would put my penis anywhere near her putrid cunt

I'd rape her with a dildo covered in sandpaper/broken glass

>> No.4700496

>>4700484

Nope, plenty of tricks in place there. You have to view the website through the TOR browser, which is a proxy for your anonymity. Also, the website doesn't directly condone selling drugs (it does sell other, legal stuff too) so it would be retarded if just visiting it was illegal.

>> No.4700499

>>4700477
If you knew anything about the science of recreational drugs, namely psychedelics you wouldn't be here trolling.

>> No.4700502

>>4700492
Tacos for life bro.

>> No.4700503

>>4700487
>I would never give them any unsafe drugs

Like Aspirin? The evidence "proving" aspirin is dangerous is just as credible and founded in reality as most of the evidence "proving" most illegal drugs are unsafe. How about I go link you to a load of aspirin related deaths? No different than what the government does to spew propoganda against almost harmless substances.

Some drugs deserve an illegal status, but in many cases it's unfounded.

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>>4700493
/b/tard

>> No.4700508

>>4700481
Nah he went off to babysit OP in the bathroom. Deliriant trips are long as fuck.

>> No.4700510 [DELETED] 

>>4700489
That is not to do with equality; there are some careers that a particular gender is better at. This is just a fact.
Men make better soldiers, I would not be a good soldier and I do not want to ever be one. Lots of men do want to, so that is fair enough.

>> No.4700512 [DELETED] 

>>4700493
You are disgusting and you sound like a horrible person.

>> No.4700515

>>4700487
>I disapprove, and make this clear to them

Yep, that's right guys, she's one of "those" women.

>> No.4700517 [DELETED] 

>>4700503
There is a very big difference in that aspirin can be used to relieve suffering and is not something that people regularly take!
As for your silly recreational drugs, these are not things anybody actually needs, just things that stupid people waste money on.

>> No.4700519 [DELETED] 

>>4700515
Meaning what?
Am I not free to advise my own friends?
I let them make their own decisions, but I am entitled to my opinion.

>> No.4700521

>>4700503
Why do you need somebody else to prove something to you for you to decide whether its safe or not? The illegal drugs are still obviously bad for you research or no research.

>> No.4700522

>>4700517
Heroin also relieves suffering, are you going to give your children heroin(heroin is a prescription drug in the UK remember).

>> No.4700523

>>4700510
>there are some careers that a particular gender is better at

Which is why you women don't get paid as much for attempting to lug heavy sandbags around construction yards with your feeble feeble arms. Men are better at 99.9% of jobs even cooking which is ironic seeing as the sexist stereotype is that women live in the kitchen.

I see you didn't refute the divorce part. So you agree with giving your husband half of everything you own even if you're the breadwinner? Oh and if a guy gets you pregnant, it means he's allowed to be the one who decides whether you keep it or not, and you're forced to pay him money for the baby's upkeep even if he becomes the child's carer and you never get to see him/her.

>> No.4700524

lol check out this stupid female woman who thinks it's maybe not such a good idea to eat allergy pills until you hallucinate! seriously lmaoing over here

>> No.4700526 [DELETED] 

>>4700522
>heroin is a prescription drug in the UK remember
No it is not, It is a class A drug, and is illegal.

>> No.4700531

>>4700517
>As for your silly recreational drugs, these are not things anybody actually needs

I had crippling social anxiety and couldn't leave the house without feeling anxious until the day I took 3 hits of LSD. But according to the government, doctors should put people with anxiety disorders on heavily-addictive and life-ruining Xanax! Go sensible government! Woo!

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almost 4 hours since OP ingested.
how long does it take for this stuff to wear off?

>> No.4700533

>>4700512
If it's any consolation I believe that you are also disgusting.

>> No.4700536

>>4700524

grow up

>> No.4700537

>>4700532
~8 to 12 hours on high doses.

Like an acid trip but you're schizophrenic for the day instead.

>> No.4700538

>>4700517
People need to experience adventure that only such drugs can give you imho. MDMA was a godsent for anxiety patients and broken up couples but swoosh govermental hand will make that go away because we can't have competition in the market place now can we.

Fuck you no fun allowed cunt, who are you to tell people what is good and what isn't.

>> No.4700539 [DELETED] 

>>4700523
When I get married It will be perfect, and there will never be any need to divorce.

It is the woman who gets pregnant, not the man, so her reproductive rights are the issue here. A man is only needed to start the process, and as you know, it is not difficult and does not actually require any intelligence or effort at all.

You act like the woman has the upper hand in divorce and over the children, but divorce is hard on everybody, and children need to be with their mother.

>> No.4700541

>>4700526
I think you will find it is perfectly legal to possess heroin in the UK if your are prescribed it by a doctor.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/aches-and-pains/medicines/diamorphine.html

>> No.4700542

>>4700517
>As for your silly recreational drugs, these are not things anybody actually needs

Several recreational drugs have been used experimentally in treating addiction with grand results.(ibogaine for example)

As for cannabis, it's excellent to alleviate nausea and increase appetite following cancer treatment. MS patients also have great symtpom relief.

Psilocybin(magic mushrooms) have positive track record in treating depression.


You also seem to hate fun.
>recreation? why would you need that!

You're ignorant as fuck yet you speak as if this was a fact of life comparable to the existance of gravity.

>> No.4700545

>>4700517

>As for your silly recreational hobbies, these are not things anybody actually needs, just things that stupid people waste money on.

You don't need anything to be happy, you don't need drugs to be happy, but people don't take drugs to relieve unhappiness; they're happy regardless, and drugs are one of their sources of it. Arguably, a superior source than other things as it is more intellectually stimulating and combines well with other activities/hobbies.

>> No.4700556

>>4700517
>As for your silly recreational drugs, these are not things anybody actually needs

Almost all recreational drugs are effective medicines

>Amphetamine,Methamphetamine
Used to treat ADHD, narcolepsy, depression, obesity.
>Cocaine
Used to as a painkiller and to stop bleeding, frequently used in nose, mouth and throat surgery, your dentist probably has a big bottle of it in his office.
>Heroin
Extremely fast acting pain-killer with less side effect than morphine.
>Opium
Used to treat severe diarrhea.
>Ketamine,PCP
Used as a anesthetic that does not depress breathing.
>LSD, Mushrooms, Mescaline
Used to treat PTSD and depression.
>Amyl Nitrate
Used to treat heart disease.
>MDMA(ecstasy)
Used to treat depression.

I can continue if you want me to.

>> No.4700559

>>4700556

do airplane glue next

>> No.4700563

>>4700539
>and children need to be with their mother

Ever since I was 4 or 5 I always said that in a divorce I would go with my father, since he is richer than my mother. I call you out on your bullshit.