/sci/ - Science & Math

>colonizing mars

>colonizing any planet
>2XXX

Yes, but it requires a unified planetary government.

>>4690201
I already made this thread baka...
with /m/...
don't talk to these bakas...
they know nothing...

I'd like to see it colonized by potatoes.

>>4690211

What are you doing here?!

>>4690211
The fuck is this trash.

>>4690221

You are replying to a tripfag who is well-known for starting hate threads involving men in rubber suits on television

Mars could have been colonized earlier with worse technology, if we really wanted to and didn't mind the high cost to a crew that goes there, but the risks don't match the rewards.

>>4690235
It pains me to know such people exist.

there is really no reason to go there other than mining, and the guys at the top don't see any potential profits.

>>4690237
Yes it is. It is easily worth the cost. The first crew and stuff would die of course but we'll learn more efficient ways of cultivating mars. The colonies we'd put on mars would easily be a station for further space exploration. 40 years ago we could have done this shit, and we could have been in Alpha Centauri this year. But no moneys for the greater good of humanity.

The reptillians already have.

I'd rather colonize my backyard. It has an atmosphere, gravity, liquid water, fertile soil and it's within walking distance of my house

>>4690251
If only you were part of the committee to convince the British government at the time of Mars frenzy to colonize Mars

It is absolutely possible, but it's not exactly feasible,

Unfortunately there are a lot of problems with trying to colonise Mars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Mars#Differences_from_Earth
Earth is in the perfect place, a stable orbit that is the perfect distance from the sun to not be too hot or too cold.
I do not think people could be self sustaining there, or survive for any particular length of time.
Even being able to set foot on Mars would be a great accomplishment.

there is not magnetic field around mars, that's the problem.. no life possible there..

>>4690622
The magnetosphere of Mars is weak, but it does exist.

I'm sorry, /sci/ is currently too busy masturbating to pessimism and echonomics.

Please leave a message and we will get back to your question once the current populace has died and more relevant people take their place.

>>4690691
you win 67 internets for this comment

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>>4690577
Surely it is difficult, but it will eventually happen unless humans cause some huge problem for themselves on Earth. Such as much lower average IQs due to different breeding habits between populations.

>>4690794
IQ trends have increased throughout the generations. The average intelligence is higher now than it ever was.
Do not be so downhearted.
As for colonising Mars, I suspect it will be even more difficult than any of us can comprehend.
Life is a very fragile thing, the conditions need to be almost perfect in terms of temperature, pressure, and gravity, and things like that.
Life has evolved for millions of years and we have had a lot of time to slowly adapt to a very specific environment here on Earth. It is so specific, that it will be extremely difficult to artificially replicate.

I do not mean to sound like a pessimist, but the reality is that it would be extremely difficult, although hopefully not impossible.

Yes, but at the moment it's so complicated that it's as far from affordability and practicality as it can be. Refer to the wikipedia article on it for further information.

>>4690812
>Life is a very fragile thing
Bullshit. Bacteria are discovered in the most extreme conditions on almost a yearly basis, such as underwater volcanoes or the antarctic ice.

>>4690821
Ever stepped on a bacterium? That's right, they don't survive that.

>>4690821
Yes.
I will rephrase.
Complex conscious life is a fragile and delicate thing.

>>4690825
Thank you. Now we're talking science.

>>4690825
>conscious

Oh boy here we go.

>>4690824
pretty sure the sole of my shoe is covered in bacteria who get stepped on with every footstep

>>4690827
Actually we have left science right now.

>>4690824
They would. They are so small that you will not be able to crush them. They would be in the space in between your boot and the floor, and would be perfectly fine.
One can not simply slam a baking tray on a table and declare the table to be sterilised.
There is a reason we use antibiotic gels.

>>4690829
Are they still alive? I don't think so.

>>4690812
>IQ trends have increased throughout the generations. The average intelligence is higher now than it ever was.
>Do not be so downhearted.

Flynn effect is not a Jensen effect, i.e., not on the g-factor. Genotypic intelligence is decreasing for the reason i mentioned, and has been so for a long time. Perhaps in the order of 150 years. Unless we do something about it, it will be bad on the long-term in relation to things like colonizing Mars.

>Life is a very fragile thing, the conditions need to be almost perfect in terms of temperature, pressure, and gravity, and things like that.
>Life has evolved for millions of years and we have had a lot of time to slowly adapt to a very specific environment here on Earth. It is so specific, that it will be extremely difficult to artificially replicate.

This is not correct. Even in ur own link, some studies are mentioned about simulated Mars-alike environments where bacteria did just fine. Not all life is multicellular, as u know. Not close to all life is animal life.

See also: >>4690821

>>4690833
You never fail to make me laugh.

>>4690834
yes

or would you like to lick them?

>>4690840
I would lick them, if they were Harriet's boots.

>>4690835
Bacteria may do just fine, but that is not the ultimate goal.
Scientists will wish to set up a microenvironment where humanity can survive on Mars for an indefinite period of time.
Bacteria surviving on Mars is not our concern. Humanity is our concern.

>>4690825
>Complex conscious life is a fragile and delicate thing.

Even with this fix, it's not that simple. Humans are remarkable good at settling in areas they didn't spend much time evolving to be living in. Humans in 2012 are even better. They live onall continents (however defined) on Earth, including Antarctica. This overall trend will continue as technology progresses. At some point in time, it will be technologically possible to live on Mars and in Space. Probably not that far off in the future. What is needed is more funding if humans really want to do that.

>>4690842
Do not be foolish. Bacteria are all over the floor and would be on my shoes as much as anybody elses.

>>4690834
Of course they are you stupid retard.

Also, piezophiles manage to live at 1000 atmospheres.

>>4690848
Did you really fall for this lame troll?

"Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again."

wtf?

>>4690853
Post a screenshot of your comment.

>>4690849
Are you the lame troll, who is doing that
>I derped, I'll pretend it was a troll now.

don't bother to reply

>>4690841
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Of those problems listed on Wikipedia, the only one that doesn't seem immediately solvable with present day or near-future technology is the potential problem of living in lower than Earth gravity.

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I'm betting this will turn out to be a small problem. Perhaps we will see in our life time if i'm right or not.

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>>4690853
i had that once

had a link in the post

>>4690856
>he denies that he was trolled hard

Stay butthurt.

>>4690859
>>4690855
I had no link in my post. I inserted some extra text in places and then it worked. Explain this bullshit.jpg