/sci/ - Science & Math

Wild strawberries taste the best. Genetic engineers should make large strawberries that also taste good—it's stupid that they don't.

why is that strawberry so big. Big strawberries always have such an unsatisfying texture and flavour compared to the smaller ones.

>dat apple sized strawberry

Science wins again.

>>4683402
get fed now. get cancer later.

science, it always wins.

>>4683418
>GMO
>Cancer

>I'M RETARDED PLEASE RAPE MY FACE

>>4683398
wild strawberries taste worse than 'organic' which were cultivated from wild which is basically the same as gmo but in a slightly more natural way

the reason shop bought strawberries always taste shit is because they grow them to be large and resilient, so of course they'll just taste like water. grow them at home cunts, they're easy as fuck to grow and take little space

>>4683418
>citation needed

>>4683433
>shop bought strawberries taste like shit.

There's no evidence to suggest the chemicals found in GMO strawberries that produce the characteristically pleasing taste are any less present compared to home-grown strawberries. In fact, I would venture to hypothesize that GMO store-bought strawberries likely have a larger number of these delicious chemicals (be careful when you read this word. Too often we ascribe the word "chemical" as though it were a negative term. Water, sugar, and oxygen are all "chemicals")

>>4683398
its all about concentration; the wild ones taste the best because you have roughly the same sugar content in a smaller package. Simple as that.

>>4683448
>citation needed.

Goddammit /sci/ you are shit today.

>GMO = bad bad danger cancer

you fucks are worse than the vaccines = autism crowd.

GMO is just doing what agriculture has done over the past 10000 years in a few months.

It's better, in fact, because we have greater control over "undesirable" genes.

>>4683461
but vaccines have been proven to cause autism in a number of uses.
it;s a scientifec fact

regardless of the type of strawberry the taste is based on the firmness and the shade of red that it is. i lived in california for about 17 years. during that time i lived in an area where directly behind my house were strawberry fields, during weekends i would spend a good chunk of my time eating the strawberries i noticed the bigger ones didnt taste as sweet as the more medium sized ones and the darker the red generally meant sweeter berries

I'm just paranoid some companies will fuck me over by overly-prioritizing yield over taste and nutrients. Then again, that's a stupid complaint since shit-tasting GMO will never sell and thus be discouraged.

Why the heck are people calling cancer from GMOs?

You guys are aware that "wild strawberry" and "common strawberry" are two different species, right?

You guys are aware that "wild strawberry", "common strawberry" and "GMO strawberry" are three different species, right?

>>4683474
>didn't get the memo on vaccines and autism

those studies were fraudulant.

>>4683418

>>4683556
Ehh...
Maybe, I don't know for sure, but I doubt they genetically engineered it to the point where the two varieties couldn't reproduce with each other.
Unless the GMOs completely lack reproductive ability, in which case it wouldn't even be useful to describe it as a species because it can't be compared via reproduction to anything else.

>>4683778
All GMOs are sterile because it benefits the companies.

>>4683778
Wild strawberry at least is a different species and IIRC cannot reproduce with your regular garden strawberry.

>>4683795
That's a CEO's wet dream, it makes hippie faggots happy, and they gain a huge profit from making people not be able to grow their own batch of GMO vegetables.

Wonder if people herp'd the derp when they used science to defeat small box as well

>>4683896
what the fuck is that statement?

>>4683907
>I wonder people bitch and whine when people managed to defeat small pox using science.

While I personally prefer the more subtle and fresh taste of a wild strawberry, the GMO strawberry is pretty nice.

>>4683909
thanks for the translation

>>4683907
Pretty much what >>4683909 said

Every time a new piece of technology is revealed or a better method is worked out the retarded tend to rise up en-mass against it. Take light bulbs, electric cars or the earlier computer for example

>>4683795
>All GMOs are sterile because it benefits the companies

I'm getting tired of seeing this statement.

No terminator gene: WAHHHH THEYLL CONTAMINATE THE LOCAL ECOSYSTEM

Terminator gene: WAAAAH CORPORATIONS CONTROLLING AGRICULTUER

Whenever one goes ahead, faggots complain about the other. Make your fucking minds up, anti-GMO people.

>>4683936
anti-GMO people are usually anti- nuclear and anti- disease research people too

It would be just best to ignore them but democracy and doing what the idiots think because that's where the votes are

GMOs MUST be good because they science hurrr!

>>4683943
5/10
you almost got me

>luddites_gonna_ludd.mpeg; 1.4GB BRRIP

>>4683943
>GMOs MUST be good because they science
There's actually nothing hurr about this

Well, since nobody else is going to post it.

>>4683972

I find this blind faith in science a little worrisome and naive. Sure, it is a force of good, but not always, and especially not under free-market doctrine where profit reigns supreme.

>>4683988
He probably meant that since the GMO strawberries are specifically made to be delicious, they thus tend to be more so than natural strawberries which needed millions of years to develop into being delicious.

>GMO
Why yes lets give more power to corporations, they don't own everything yet.

>>4684009
not sure they are though

specifically engineered to increase yields is the usual.

sometimes this is done by making them resistant to pesticides.

It's human nature to modify and exploit new trickery accessible to us. It would be unnatural of us not to artificially modify the genes of stuff once we have the ability to do so. One needs to play with fire to learn whats wise and unwise to do with fire. If that means I have to eat some really tasty strawberries then so be it.

>>4684036
>implying you don't already get your everything from corporations
Grow your own damn fruit, hippie. Genetic engineering is the future and you cannot stop it.

>>4684036
You're an idiot.
No matter how powerful they get they can't and won't stop you from growing your own non-GM food

>>4684054
monsanto has sued non-gm growers for intellectual property infringement because stray GM seeds got into their non GM fields.

i've nothing against GM, what i am against is corporations being dicks, and monsanto seems the most dickish

>>4684060
Why's that dickish?
If it were hippies who were suing the farmers for "secretly tainting their pure crops with evil GM seeds" you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

>>4684062
not a hippy, a 70 yr old Saskatchewan

>why is that dickish

you really think it's okay to sue? can't tell if troll or another dick.

imagine a company releases a computer virus (non malign, it just sits there) then sues everyone who catches it for using their product without permission

>>4684062
I don't know about him, but yeah I would.

>>4684062
If you can't see why it isn't dickish I give up now. Please die.

>>4684062
I wouldn't bat an eyelid no. I think it's reasonable to have control over what I farm.

>>4684066
IMAGINE SOMEONE RELEASES A TIGER INTO YOUR HOUSE THEN SUES YOU FOR BLEEDING ON THE TIGER

>>4684066
Except that their plants are sterile, and they don't magically grow everywhere they need to be planted

>>4684085
except they aren't.

the roundup ready canola in this case cross pollinated with non GM canola over a few growing seasons until a substantial amount of the farmer's seed (which he kept over himself) had monsanto's intellectual property in it.

anybody who has ever eaten wild strawberries will agree that they are the best.
There's nothing quite like it in taste.
If you eat a Wallmart strawberry afterwards it just tastes like a sponge.

>>4684091
i think that what a corporation considers delicious is often not what i consider delicious.

witness the shit apples that seem popular. or just mcdonalds food

>>4684091
>Walmart

Well no shit.

>>4684091
Let me guess. Your friend had some strawberries in his backyard that he told you were wild but were actually grown from store bought seeds called "wild strawberry seeds".

>>4684098
So cynical. Did you get out of bed the wrong side?

I go wild berry picking around Dartmoor and have done for years.

Organic strawberries (as well as pretty much all organic produce) still tastes much better than GMO. I don't see any fundamental reason why this should be true, but it definitely is. Apparently "have some kind of flavor" is not one of the traits they give them.

>>4684101
yield and flavour are pretty much inversely proportional, whether GM or more traditional breeding techniques

>>4684101
It's called the placebo effect.
You pay more so you think they taste better. That and their perceived good taste is reinforced by other schmucks who tell you that they taste better

>>4684107
agreed. variety is what matters, not organic/non organic

GM is a variety issue, and they always create high yield, low flavor varieties, as these are mass market profitable varieties.

it's not in a GM company's interest to make niche, good flavor products. yet.

bring on artisanal biotech

>>4684107

Wow. No.

>>4684142
Wow.Yes.

The placebo affect is pretty well documented. Cornell University(and quite a few others) did studies on the organic placebo affect.

Face it you're convincing yourself that it tastes better but it actually doesn't. It's not surprising the mind plays a powerful force in taste factors.

http://asn-cdn-remembers.s3.amazonaws.com/9c46808f390c58c1ba60453dc0ed7bb8.pdf

>>4684368
>implying i was disputing the existence of the placebo effect

Moron.

>>4684381
>implying my post debated whether the placebo effect existed

>>4684101
>opinions
Some people like other things. Deal with it.