/sci/ - Science & Math

Learned behavior. Therapy.

>How can one get rid of it?

You get bored of it. Seriously, its the only way to be sure.

>>4578800
What kind of therapy?

>>4578801
What if I don't get bored?

Understand what it is, and why you have it, then you will understand you don't need it.

>>4578801
How to get bored of it? Watching nothing but fetish material 24/7 or something like that?

>>4578815
But that doesn't make me enjoy normal sexuality.

>>4578827
I'm already doing this.

What is it?

>>4578833
You're just gonna make fun of me, if I tell you.

>>4578841
Feet? We all enjoy feet.

>>4578841
Or I could just make fun of you if you don't tell us. Pussy faggot, too scared to anonymously post your fetish to a bunch of other anonymous people.

>>4578843
is now feet thread

>>4578844
Fuck you, it's not relevant, my fetish has nothing to do with science.

>>4578827
>>4578810

See, that's just the thing. You have to have an innate ability to become bored of doing addictive things, like smoking or drinking for example. Even still, it would take several years to get bored of your fetish. I think it took me around 3 years or so to get bored of mine.

>>4578853
Dude. Seriously. This is fucking 4chan. Do you actually think there is any fetish, existing or to exist, that will cause us to even raise an eyebrow?

inb4 OP is a pedophile.

>>4578860
That would be one of the most acceptable fetishes on 4chan.

>>4578843
No, it's not feet.

>>4578853
This guy is not me.

>>4578856
I'm addicted since 16 years now. How do I make it stop?

>>4578857
It's not about my fetish being too hard for 4chan. It's just too embarrassing.

>>4578860
No, I'm not.

>>4578867
mlp?

>>4578867
Weird, this sort of guilt seems to be most common in pedophiles, as opposed to other fetishizers (is that a word? fetish enthusiasts?). My advice, don't worry OP, it's no more than a matter of preference, some people like strawberry ice cream, some people like to be pooped on, it's all the same really.

Not OP, but still curious. I'm obsessed with anal. I'm sure there are a few girls out there who love it as well, but I've not had much luck finding one. Seems it would be easier for me if I could just get rid of it.

>>4578867
You are anonymous, we don't have your IP, we don't have your alias, we don't have your name, we don't know anything of you, you can post 15 times in this thread, you can post once in this thread, it's all irrelevent.

You just got us curious now, there is no reason to not tell us.

>>4578867
This is fucking 4chan. Everything is our fetish, just say it. If it makes you feel better here are mine
Femdom
Traps
Crossdressing
Bondage
Latex
Pegging
Unbirth
Large insertion
maids

>>4578867
>too embarresing
>anonymous

>>4578867
You're anonymous. If you feel embarrassed when(not IF) you reveal your fetish to us, you can just delete your thread and keep on posting without anyone the wiser.

If anyone could know about the stuff going on in here, I certainly wouldn't ever tell anyone that I'm aroused by bestiality and juveniles. Preferably both mixed.

>>4578881
Those are fetishes! i thought that was normal. and whats unbirth? is that if you climb into a womb?

Why would you like to get rid of it? Embrace your corruption of the flesh, and delight in it.

to delete a fetish:
start with a shock/traumatize experience.
if you have foot fetish and you hate poo then cover feet in poo or relate them to poo(or something else you don't like) your brain will associate foot to something you don't totally like.
then for some months do not think of feet, if you do relate them to poo and keep disliking.
then acquire another, more healthy, fetish, like women underwear ( or whatever you feel more OK living with). this will overlap your old fetish.

>inb4 you gain fetish for shit covered feet tied together with a pink woman underwear.

>>4578867

OP, there's nothing to be ashamed of. You're anonymous, so no one knows who you are.

Perhaps if you tell us the fetish we'll be better able to help you.

>>4578881
>Unbirth
I beg you not to elaborate.

>>4578886
Yeah, also known as Vaginal Vore. I think its related to my large insertion and femdom fetish.

>>4578894
see: Large insertion. With humans.

>>4578890
how do i apply this to incest? make my sister have sex with a black man?

>>4578886
>>4578894
>Fetish involving someone going through a woman's vagina and into the womb, usually coming back out later on. Pretty obviously restricted to cybersex and fantasy art or writing.

>>4578895
>>4578894
too late.

OP if you want information on how to get rid of your fetish you must tell us what it is.

>>4578867

>>4578909
For 4chan standards that would actually be considered normal.

>>4578890
This does not work, depravity is addictive.

>>4578896
>>4578900
Alright. Done. No more 4chan for today.

>>4578899
make an incestuous relationship unpleasant.
let a buddy you hate fuck your sister is a good idea. if he rapes her is even better.
it might raise a brotherly protective feel that will, hopefully, override the incestuous fetish.then find yourself a normal girl.that doesnt look like your sister.

>>4578874
OP, if its pedophilia, its pretty easy to get scared off it.
Simple learn some of the facts. Like if you get caught with it, you will go to jail. And in prisons, pedophiles at the most hated scum, right up there with rapists and child murders. You'll get beat, raped, and eventually stabbed.

The concept of fetish is overblown nonsense. People develop tastes or habits in everything they do, and it is not a problem unless associated with some actual pathology such as OCD.

>>4578909
thats hot.

Teeellll ussssss.

>>4578929
who ever said it was a problem?

Its it a jet fetish OP?
Cause you know they will never love you back.

>>4578899
Sucks for you, I recently found out my sisters aren't actually related to me.

>>4578943
>Cause you know they will never love you back.
By that logic I have a people fetish.

>>4578924
>easy to get scared of
Damn man. People get bored of being scared.
I used to only enjoy my illegal fetishes when I knew there was no-one around and even then I would lock the doors and pull the curtains and fap in absolute silence.

Now it's all time any time.

is having sex with men a fetich?

>>4578948
It is not a fetish if it is a social norm.

>>4578948
I meant it as in, you shouldn't love jets because they will never return those feelings.

>>4578940
The OP certainly seemed bothered enough to ask, "how can one get rid of it?" And there is no shortage of people who interchange the term with the word perversion.

>>4578948
at least you can make people orgasm.


i was going to say " at least you can have a sexual relationship with a person".
but then i realized there might be way to do that with a jetplane.

>>4578952
No, that's homosexuality

Or bisexuality if you still like the oppisite sex

>>4578952
Depends on how you want it.
Could be Anal or Oral fetishes.

We should get some /d/eviants in here. They know their shit about fetishes.

>>4578956
Yeah, so did I.

>>4578959
Not any more difficult than sechsing a car.

>>4578952
No, that is why homosexuality is not called homophilia. I once did a report in high school about fetishes, I forget the number but I'm going to say like if 30% of the general populous finds it arousing, then it no longer is classified as a "fetish." This being said it has been recorded in surveys that at least 50% of males and 30% of females have fantasized about bondage at least once, which no longer classifies it as a fetish according to the above standards.

>>4578950
>>4578950
this is so true. used to use loads of proxies with a quick delete disk already in my PC and with everything encrypted when looking at cp. now i download it normal and save it on my desktop[.

>>4578973
At least use fucking TOR.

You don't get rid of fetishes. Face it, you know you want to be a futanari raped and impregnated by tentacles.

>>4578972
>I forget the number but I'm going to say like if 30% of the general populous finds it arousing, then it no longer is classified as a "fetish."
then why is it called hebephilia?

>>4578982
Most likely because no study has been done to provide sufficient proof to prove otherwise.

>>4578977
TOR wasnt discovered back then. and now i dont have to use the internet anymore becasue i found out the student have sex in the classroom after school.

>>4578977
I used to do that too. Now I take minimal precautions and just have two scapegoats lined up and even they are in minimal danger.

>>4578982
Hey, finally I found a name for my fetish. Thanks!

>>4578982
Clinical psychology has been plagued by bullshit, some of which has been shaken off, but some of which tenaciously clings to our buttocks.
People also like to make up unnecessary terms and feel special.

still waiting for OP...

I just wish we were more like the cuttle fish.

Please guys, is there no such thing as a general therapy for perversions? Anything I can do?
I have been wasting years of my life with this shit and I want it to stop.

>>4579011
Just post your damn fetish. Every fetish have difference causes and will require different treatments unless you want to use shock therapy.

>>4579009
I like it, any more?

>>4579024
Yeah, got 5 of them, will post them all.

>>4579019
If I know the causes, how can I find the treatment?

>>4579032
Google for therapists. Or post your fetish or the cause.

I have a fetish as well. It's a fetish for intelligent women. But geuss what: There are none. xD

>>4579009
>>4579027
>>4579030
>>4579037
whovere drew them understood dem hips

>>4578890
What if you start liking poo in the process?

Last of these I have

>>4579036
Is it possible to cure it without a therapist? I don't think there are therapists in my town.
In most general terms the cause was constant physical, emotional and sexual abuse during my childhood.

>>4579042
I think it's Humon. At least the art style is very similar to his work.
http://humoncomics.com/

This is by far the most inane thread to ever come to this board

Ah, I knew it had to be humon.

Anyway, the story of /sci/'s life.

>>4579048
Incest bondage?

>>4579048
Its it any type of forced - fetish?

>>4579048
You want to fuck your mother.

>>4579051
oh god, this is hilarious.

>>4579044
>>4579037
>>4579027
>>4579030
Thank you very much.

>>4579011
You're approaching it from the wrong angle. If you perceive it is a problem, then your problem is obsession or compulsion in general, not some specific desire. If I really like peanut butter, it is not a problem unless I decide to stop eating it but I can't stop thinking about peanut butter and I get all stressed out and end up running down the street naked covered in peanut butter.

>>4579058
What do you mean?

>>4579067
But it is a problem. It consumes most of my time and it prevents me from reproducing.

>>4579074
You might want to try confronting the source of it all. Confront the person that abused you. But seriously, if you're this worried about it, go see a therapist. They are trained to handle this.

>>4579065
In case anyone can't find the gallery:
http://humon.deviantart.com/gallery/

>>4579074
>prevents me from reproducing.
There are other things preventing that, not your fetish to kill your father and do your above child bearing age mother.

>>4579074
You could get other hobbies or things to do outside of the house.

>>4579053

Any sauce on those pic? Artist?

Electro shock therapy.
Every time you think about it, inflict some sort of external pain. Electric shock, pinch yourself, snap yourself with a rubber band.

>>4579053
see
>>4579079
>>4579051

>>4579089
see
>>4579051
>>4579079

>>4579078
I tried confronting one of the persons, but it only resulted in revival of traumata. What therapist can help me? Some years ago I was in psychotherapy. All I did there was talking about things I already knew. I didn't talk about my fetish though. But it seemed that the therapist couldn't help me.

>>4579083
I could. That would reduce the time I am wasting with this crap. But it doesn't make me learn normal sexuality.

>>4579092
Sure, dude. I'm gonna see a post from 10 seconds before mine, and a post that came after mine.

>>4579098
Are you fucking GAY?

Dude. So are many of us. It's not a fucking fetish.

>>4579098
Learn? All it is is you have someone soft in your arms and you feel nice. There's no learn. You sound like you want to get boners to ordinary porn. Well a lot of it is just not worth boner time, let me tell you. The chicks are often just not attractive or overdo the makeup or the poses are just not seductive.

>>4579104
No, I'm not. Gay would seem rather normal to me.

>>4579105
The thing is that currently I am disgusted by the thought of having normal sex.

>>4579098
I'm guessing it's a child anal molestation fetish. You like to get dressed like a child and having stuff inserted into your anus?

>>4579109
It is rather disgusting from a hygiene point of view.
Especially if there's a lot of drool, herpes, overgrown brown inner labia and whatnot.

>>4579110
No. You can play further geussing games, if you want, but I'd rather appreciate some help. Where can I find out how to cure it?

>>4579119
Please don't make me throw up. I'm eating right now.

>>4579119
Ugh. Breeders. Of course it's disgusting.

OP you make it sound as if you're a pedo-necrophiliac-scat-fetishist. am i close?

>>4579120

No one wants to help you, they're not getting anything for it.

Damn, you are fucking anonymous. Tell us the fetish, otherwise we won't help you. I am curious...

>>4579133
He can't be pedo, he is already confirmed for wanting to fuck his mother.

>>4579142

OP's fetish which wastes his time and prevents him from getting laid is ... trolling 4chan. Unfortunately there is no cure.

>>4579120
>>4579120
by telling them what it is they will help yoou, but by all means, keep this up. i find it entertaining.

>>4579133
Depends on what you think 'close' means.

>>4579136
Come on. I'd even pay you, if you provide some good help.

>>4579138
>>4579159
When I tell it, you'll just make fun of me. If there's any help, it has to be found without saying what my fetish is.

>>4579142
No, I don't want to fuck anyone.

>>4579167

Come on, what are you, 12? Tell us the fetish. We wont make (too much) fun of you and youre bound to get better help.

>>4579207
What fetishes could you help me getting rid of?

>>4579221
any.

>>4579222
Good. How would you do it?

>>4579229
Depends on the fetish. What is it?

>>4579221
Here is how 4chan works:
Remain anonymous
Post your fetish
Await replies
If nothing serious, make new thread on other board one day later(describing your fetish)
Repeat untill you have your answer.

As you may have noticed, there is nothing we can do if you don't tell us what your problem is.

Hey OP, this isn't about your particular fetish whatever that is but about porn in general. Porn seriously fucks your brain, because of the constant stimuli. We weren't evolved to use porn so much and we can't bear it, that's why all heavy porn users are depressed, unmotivated and so on.

Check this speech
TEDxGlasgow - Gary Wilson - The Great Porn Experiment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zif0_60b3WU&feature=youtube_gdata

>>4579229

OP, just tell us your fetish. We can't help you to our fullest extent if we don't knwo what we're dealing with!

It's not like anyone will ever know who you are. The only person making a big deal out of it is you, I doubt anyone here will make fun of you.

Forget about that fetish of yours, you have bigger problems right now, OP.
Seriously, "People on the internet will make fun of me" or is it "What if there's someone I know IRL on here and once I come out with it, s/he will know it was me."

Try to do something about that paranoia of yours at first.

Guys. I think his fetish is being as obscure as possible.
OP, get help you sick fuck.

>>4579306
Haha, yes. OP gets off on making people curious about stuff, but then not sharing the info.

You guys just want to see any weird pervert shit. When I post my fetish now and it's too lame for you, you're just gonna continue calling me a troll.

Is it something like a black widow fetish? You have to kill your partner right after sex?

>>4579319
No. We'll think you're trolling if you don't post it. The degree of the fetish is strongly relative. If I told someone I had a bondage fetish were I live, they will think that is extremely unusual and weird. Meanwhile in other places, it would be more common and acceptable.

>>4579319
No, it's the curiosity, and the will to help you.

It's as if you walk into a room, shout HEY GUYS, LOOK WHAT I JUST FOUND and than go take a seat and tell everybody they probably don't want to know it and how it's too lame and how you're too embarrased. Except now you're online and 100% anonymous.

>>4579319
we may think you are trolling, but well still help you.

>>4579319
So?
It's only the internet.

>>4579330
Holy shit, I'm gonna do this in my lecture tomorrow.

I never wanted to make anyone curious. I just asked how to get rid of a perversion. I never said my perversion is too weird for 4chan.
Please guys, where can I read up on possible methods of curing this?

>>4579301

>>4579319
We all know it's probably nothing SUPER weird, we're just curious. The more information we have the more we can try to help you. It wasn't a bad idea to keep it to yourself in the beginning, now you have already got some posts with general tips. There really is no magic trick that works on everything.

>>4579359
There's no progress if you won't say it.
Say it, then there may be some progress.
Are you afraid that people will go "lol fag"? If so, maybe the internet isn't the place for you.

>>4579359
You could try googling it.
And fetishes are caused and cured by too wide a spectrum of things for one cure-all. Its not like you can use the same techniques to help someone with schizophrenia as you can with someone with claustrophobia.

Maybe I should post what I've tried so far. I attempted to not fap at all, but after a week or so I came back to it and it went even worse. I tried to fap to normal porn but it didn't work. It just got me bored and slightly disgusted. Same happend as well when I tried jerking off to gay porn.
I have some terabytes of stuff related to my fetish on my hard drive. Sometimes I try to delete a gigabyte or so of the things I view the least. But then I see that it's futile.
What else can I do?

Hi Brandon.

>>4579386
Although you have more privacy (complete, if you don't do anything retarded) in this place than you have on google (next to none to google).

>>4579397
I see, it's a tranny fetish then...

>>4579407
No, it's not.

>>4579404
My name is not Brandon.

>>4579397
Zoophilia? Meh. It's not that terrible. Just make sure that the horse consents first. Neigh means no.

>>4579414
No, it's not zoophilia. Please stop trolling.

>>4579167
>Depends on what you think 'close' means.
You already admitted you're not a pedo so it must be the scat thing right? Well, there's nothing to be ashamed of in that, it's a cool fetish.

>>4579411
Honestly, we're gonna be making fun of you wither you tell us or not. The only difference is we will at least be able to offer helpful advice while we make fun of you.
Also the first step to recover is being able to tell someone about it. That's how I got over my caffeine addiction.

>>4579419
Scat is sometimes involved, but that's not really my fetish.

>>4579419
Scat is the biggest fetish in germany, it is very normal to poop on somebody on the street there.

>>4579425
So it's humiliation?

My guess is diapers/infantilism

>>4579425
Is it that one fetish where people are used as toliets, like pissing drinking.

>>4579425
enemas?

>>4579431
scat specifically refers to feces

>>4579430
my guess is swelling blueberry juicing

>>4579435
I know. He said it wasn't scat, but it was sometimes involved. Which made me think it was that toilet use fetish. I hear its big in Japan, but really, what fetish isn't.

>>4579440
Oh shit, I read "is it that one" as "is that the one", which would have totally changed the meaning of your question. My apologies.

>>4579450
>Oh shit

nice pun

If I gave you more information, how would you help me? I don't want to post too much detail just for anon's amusement, I want help.

>>4579429
>Humiliation
>>4579430
>Child play/diapers

After these gausses, OP shut up. I think it must be one of either. Can't see why he wouldn't admit it..

OP has to be a woman, there is no way that a man could be this self conscious with complete anonymity.

did someone say feet???(pic related

on a more serious note, OP, you must be retarded if you ask for help and you dont even say what the problem is.

>>4579248
seriously? i think ted talks are just full of shit

>>4579425
im guessing then your fetish is either various excrements of the human body OR mutilation or even both. either way, this is 4chan, everyones seen worse

>>4579472
>did someone say feet???
>post stockings

nigga what is wrong with you?

>>4579488
sorry im a slight spin-off, because i dont like toes

Okay guys, you are geussing in the right direction. It's about humiliation, torture and mutilation. I don't want to say more. How can I find help?

>>4579507
Don't worry, I have a decent stockings folder as well. Also leggings, and full lingerie. The only thing I don't do is socks.

>>4579518
stop with porn.

>>4579518
If it makes you more comfortable, OP, I have a few fetishes I'm not proud of either: breast expansion and shemale/futa. Now, please share your deepest secrets.

Anyway, what's wrong with having a fetish?

>>4579524
How? It's an addiction.

>>4579518
The fantasies are only a problem if a) you think you might act on them b) they are interfering with the rest of your life.

There are two ways to go: find a role-playing partner and learn to accept your fantasies, or get help for intrusive thoughts. For the first option, there are many ways to act through fantasies in a safe environment, with a trusted partner and without guilt. If you choose the second option, it won't be easy to do it yourself and I really recommend speaking with a therapist or psychiatrist. They can teach you how to distance yourself from the thoughts, work through impulses, and feel less guilty when unwanted thoughts intrude.

>>4579472
>come home
>see this

what do?

>>4579534
It makes me feel bad. I waste too much time on it and I can't into normal sex. I am already socially awkward. How am I supposed to find someone sharing my fetish? And actually I want to reproduce, but without normal sex it is impossible.

>>4579542
I have no idea how I could find a partner with this. Not living in murrica though. The problem isn't really intrusive thoughts. I can control them in public. But it seems to me that relationships are mainly based on sex in our society and my perversion makes this impossible.

>>4579545
yeah best thing to do is to find someone who shares your fetishes. sadly, thats not my kind of thing so ive got no idea where...

but ive seen some programs(sexcetera), people do have private fetish clubs and such where people can go and meet to find someone whos into the same shit. i dont know much, youd have to probably look up something on the internet or hope someone here knows the stuff.

>>4579520
socks are nice as long as theyre clean!

>>4579545
Go to /d/, spend some time talking with open-minded perverts about perversions.

You'll be relieved of your weird obsession that your fetish is some way bad.

Then you can start hanging around in forums specializing in your kind of fetish and when you're comfortable with the people there, you might find someone to share with, maybe even procreate.

You're taking this like christian fundies take homosex: it's unnatural and has to be cured.

But that way more often leads to nervous breakdowns and mental illness.

Just accept who and what you are, you'll live a happier life that way. When you're more relaxed about it, you wont feel the need to partake as often as when you're all strung up about it.

I don't care about what your fetish is, but if you had gathered up the courage to tell us what it was, you'd be well on your way to acceptance.

Your refusal to own up even anonymously shows me that you've a long, LONG way ahead of you.

>>4579601
Since I first used the internet 12 years ago I'm hanging out in such specialized internet communities. I have tried to accept my perversion more than once, but it always comes back to realizing that it is in fact an illness that destroys me and my chances of procreation. You are right that every attempt to fight it on my own results only in nervous breakdown or the emergence of other symptoms. That is the reason why I'm asking for help.

>>4579627
Yes, and I'm still saying that what you need to confront is that this is who you are and it will not change in the foreseeable future.

>illness
I don't know if you're religious, but you sound like your parents may be. Stop listening to that mumbo-jumbo and learn to enjoy your life.

If you have friends or relatives who constantly talk about how some people are sick due to their sexuality, you really need to get some better ones or come out to them.

>>4579654
I'm not religious and neither are my parents. Sexual perversions have their diagnostic classification in the DSM V as well as in the ICD and since I am also suffering from it, I think it's justified to speak of a mental illness. The big problem is that my condition prevents me from entering a fulfilling relationship and from seeing any bright future at all. I've left the stage of trying to accept it as a part of mine. I want to become a normal human. Is there really no way of treatment?

>>4579677
What is preventing you from having a relationship is your fear of ostracism.

Even I was able to find a woman who happens to look like a 15yo in proper attire and likes dogs. A lot.

So you might understand me when I'm a little skeptical about your woes.

>>4579714
Your fetish sounds more normal. Mine makes it practically impossible to find a partner. The closest thing I could get is fake and that would cost a lot of money, so I'm not interested in it. Ostracism is only a minor problem, or even not a problem at all. If I was able to live out my fantasies, there would be no need to do it publicly.

Can I join?

I have a fetish for women whose first name is Rose and who troll /sci/.

>>4579727

>Mine makes it practically impossible to find a partner

You do realize that it doesn't kill you if you do not satisfy every single sexual fantasy you have?

>>4579727
>The closest thing I could get is fake and that would cost a lot of money

Well now I can't not be interested

OP, this is 4chan. There are people here who openly confess to being pedophiles and necrophiles. I find it difficult to believe that anything you see as a problem is more severe than those.

>>4579749
I said earlier that I simply don't manage to feel arousal without it. I can't even get hard to normal porn and I couldn't ever imagine having normal intercourse.

>>4579751
Depends on what you call 'more severe'.

>>4579727
Well, bestiality is still illegal here, so normal is subjective in this case.

>>4579758


There are two distinct categories of sexual attraction: Those that non-consensually harm others, and those that do not. If your fetish is kidnapping people and stabbing them in the face then yeah, that's pretty bad. If it's anything that can be done by you and anyone able to give informed consent (and I mean ANYTHING) then it is not something you should be ashamed of.

You've done nothing wrong and although you feel shitty right now I don't think you deserve to.

>>4579760
It seems to be more normal than mine, solely based on the fact that you were able to find a partner engaging in your fetish.

>>4579767
Your classification doesn't account for my problem. Unfortunately it's difficult to explain without revealing too much detail.

Back to my initial question: What can I do to become normal?

>>4579518
OP, did you fap to funnelgirl or Swap.avi or something?

>>4579784
I haven't watched these. If they are the usual 'shock' sites involving scat or something like that, then it's probably not my taste.

>>4579778
Please don't make me play 20 questions with you, I want to help but you're not being specific enough. You mightn't like it at this point but the problem is not that you have a fetish, but that you dislike that fact. If we can work out why then we can help you in one of multiple ways, but with the level of detail you're getting at the moment we just don't know which is appropriate for you.

Getting rid of a fetish is not a matter of just flicking a switch of saying a few words you found on a NLP website. In addition to being exhausting changing it isn't going to be mentally healthy, from what I can gauge.

If I gave you an anonymous email address, would you be willing to tell me in confidence?

>>4579789
OP, is your fetish about organs being pulled out or something?

>>4579784
link?

>>4579795
Are you saying that it can't be cured? That I will never be normal? I know that I can't become fully normal, but I dream of being at least normal enough that I can have a relationship with normal sex and keep my other fantasies to fapping. Is this possible?

>>4579784
>>4579789
Update: I just googled them. I have the full video of funnelgirl.

>>4579798
This is also included.

>>4579778
Do you love severe cock & ball torture? Sorry if someone already guessed this. I've just been interested in your dialogue

>>4579778
>what can I do to become normal
Leave 4chan.
Stop using the internet for more than work- or study-related stuff.
Become asexual.

If nothing else works, get chemically castrated.

>>4579823
Well yes, that too.

>>4579828
Sorry, that's not really helpful. It's like saying 'kill yourself'.

>>4579815
>Are you saying that it can't be cured?
I'm saying that at this point, the only think I know is pathological is that you want to be cured at all.

I like feet. I like ears. Both of those things are strange, especially the latter, and yet I'm comfortable with them. Why? Because both of them harm nobody. If your fetish also harms nobody, then you have no reason to be uncomfortable.

But in answer to your question, The current psychiatric position is that a fetish is not something that you can get rid of. You can reduce it with help from a professional, but you're going to have to tell them what it is too, and they're going to say exactly what I have.

>>4579815
I saw a thread about a girl that had a fetish involving necrophilia, fucking eviscerated people and she confessed having killed a 16 year old boy to satisfy the fetish. I remember she liked donuts and she thought "the human body was fucking gorgeous". Does your fetish sound like hers?

>>4579048
>>4579011
>>4579011

Op, i don't even know if you're a troll, but anyways, I'm a psychology student and i can't tell you that if you're not even able to admit on 4chan with all this anonymity, it's probably not going to get any better, how do you think you're going to talk to a therapist about it.

There's no way you can cure your own fetish by yourself, not even shock therapy since you wouldn't be able to apply it to yourself.

Just say it and we'll see if somebody here can help, if you don't want to, the fuck you, kill yourself and that will solve your problem, or live with it.

>>4579859
>fuck you, kill yourself
GREAT PSYCHIATRY A++++ WOULD COUNSEL AGAIN

>>4579838
It does harm me in more than one way. Not only living it out would harm me, it also destroys my personality. You can't compare that to your feet or ears fetish. Any partner you'll find will have feet and ears. I can't say anything similar about my problem.
Are you sure that from a psychiatric perspective there is no treatment? Sexual disorders were among the first phenomena examined by Freud and most other mental illnesses can be treated nowadays, for example psychosis or personality disorders. I just couldn't find any treatment for my problem.

>>4579866
>cannot into conditional statements

>>4579866

Suicide can solve anything, maybe not the most appropriate way, but It's effective.

>>4579845
I would be interested in her, but it was probably just some /b/ troll.

>>4579859
I was in psychotherapy when I was younger. I didn't manage to talk about my sexual problems there either. When you say a psychotherapist could help me, if I told him, then where does he get his knowledge of how to help me? It must be in some book I could read on my own. But I haven't found it yet. Do you know any source?

>>4579872
>You guys are talking about the wrong type of fetishes
>I'm not going to tell you what fetish I have
...

>>4579872
>Are you sure that from a psychiatric perspective there is no treatment
Reasonably.
>Sexual disorders were among the first phenomena examined by Freud
Freud really isn't much of a psychologist by today's standards. for all intents and purposes freud didn't say anything useful.
>and most other mental illnesses can be treated
Herein lies the problem. You think that you have a mental illness, I think that you do not.

Please, tell me what the problem is. You have my word I'll keep it private.

>>4579835
>Sorry, that's not really helpful. It's like saying 'kill yourself'.
To be fair, you ARE trying to kill a part of you.
And I've tried to be more helpful, but you wouldn't have any of it.

And like I've said before in this thread, it's very possible that in the effort of trying in vain to get rid of your fetish, you might kill yourself out of depression.

I'm not gonna say have a happy rest of your life, because I don't think you will.

>>4579109
>since 16 years

Are you German OP?

>>4579891
I already gave away some of it. See for example >>4579518 and some of my answers to other posters' questions. Please understand that I'm very ashamed of it and that I didn't come here to lay out my fantasies, but to look for help. By standards of psychiatry I think it is considered an illness and I call it so because it makes me suffer.

>>4579893
I am suffering from depression a lot, mainly because of that perversion. Killing myself sometimes seems a realistic option. I know I could get treatment or medication for the depression but that wouldn't solve the actual problem.

>>4579899
What would have been the correct way to phrase it?

>>4579928
I can not emphasize enough that I'm not here to judge you, nor would I. You have done nothing wrong. But knowing specifics would be immeasurably useful for me in helping you.

Like I said earlier I can give you an anonymous email address to send things from, and an address to send the emails to. I understand you'd feel apprehensive.

Thanks for linking back, I haven't read the thread.

>>4579928
>For 16 years...
would have been the correct English phrasing. I notice that many native German speakers phrase it like you did.

So are you?

I have a foot fetish, a fetish for girls peeing, girls in diapers, girls making me do things for them, trampling me, farting on me, and using my stuff. If I still manage to live with a normal vanilla sex life OP so can you (never acted out any fetishes unfortunately).

>>4579956
do you mean "girls" or actual children?

atleast you know that you will never be as fucked up as this guy

>>4579948
What specifics do you need in order to help me? Or 'how' would you help me based on the knowledge of specifics? Exploring the origins of my problems is not enough. I already did this and it only made them worse.

>>4579950
Please don't dox me.

>>4579956
The difference is that you are still able of having a 'vanilla' sex life. I currently couldn't even imagine having this.

>>4579956
my gf farts in her sleep on me sometimes

>>4579964
IQ Fundie

He inserted over two dozen needles into his pelvis. He also hit himself repeatedly with a nail-studded paddle and inserted wool doused with lighter fluid into his anus and set it on fire.

>>4579928
>I am suffering from depression a lot, mainly because of that perversion. Killing myself sometimes seems a realistic option. I know I could get treatment or medication for the depression but that wouldn't solve the actual problem.
Yes, we know already that your only real problem is that you lack courage, to put it nicely.

Sorry, but there's no magic wand anyone can wave, Dorothy is not going to wish courage for you.

To be blunt, you're too chickenshit to live with yourself, but you're also too chickenshit to change, or even ask anyone for help in changing.

To nail it home, you have three options:
1. GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS, then you can either live with yourself or try to get some help
2. Live like the coward that you are for the rest of your life. With the full knowledge that you are the worst kind of coward and that your suffering is only due to your cowardice.
3. End yourself.

I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm not trying to be nice either. The only one who can help you now is yourself. By growing those fucking balls that people wuth the Y-chromosome are supposed to have.

>>4579964
Is it a pregnancy fetish or something? Furry? What.

I'm certain I was born a sexual sadist. I've had clear episodes of it for as long as I could remember, even though I didn't know what it was until I was much older.

>>4579969
pic is more /sci/'s way

>>4579981
>vacuum tube
I think you mean >>>/diy/ ?

>>4579964
What it is exactly you want to do.

There's a difference between "I want to kill people" and "I like hurtcore" and you haven't given us the ability t distinguish between them

Also, nobody can dox you here. Don't worry.

Are you male or female OP?

>>4579965

So does mine, I've only heard her fart once when she was still asleep and I wasn't and I put my head under the covers to smell it. I've also smelled her boots after a night out with her while she's in the washroom. I wish I could tell her about this but she'd think I'm a freak and she'd be right. I really want to make her wet my bed too with the warm water trick.

>>4579963
>>4579963

I read about this guy before he is a one-off. He had the following fetishes : sadism, masochism, cunnilingus, anilingus, fellatio, flagellation, exhibitionism, voyeurism, piquerism, cannibalism, coprophagia, urophilia, pedophilia and infibulation.

>>4579998
fellatio is a fetish?

>>4579964
I have no interest in doing anything like that.
I merely have an amateur interest in linguistics and was wondering if my assumption was correct.

Sorry I can not contribute anything of use to you though.

>>4579972
Well HOW do I grow some balls? Getting rid of my perversion would be the first and most important step in doing so. That's why I made this thread. Can you explain in detail what I need to do?

>>4579985
I don't want to kill or to hurt people. It's the exact opposite. I want to be the victim. For details you would to have ask specific questions. I don't want to write out all my fantasies just for anon's entertainment.

>>4579992
I am male.

>>4580005
Yes, your assumption was right.

>>4580014
Thanks for answering my completely unrelated question.
I hope you find a solution to your problem OP.

>>4580014
You want to be hurt and killed? Or simply abused and humiliated?

>>4580014
Wasn't there a cannibal in germany?
Maybe he can help you out!

>>4580014
>I don't want to kill or to hurt people. It's the exact opposite. I want to be the victim
This is good.

I like bondage/etc myself, though I didn't say earlier. Trust me, there are people who will want to join in.

>>4580030
All of it. But the emphasis is more on the former.

>>4580033
He's in prison now.

>>4580037
I don't really want people to join in. I want to get rid of it.

>>4580044
Why do you want to get rid of it instead of having other people join in, though?

lol OP has a fetish for being cannibalized

>>4580051
Being mutilated and tortured to death is not really healthy.

>>4580044
Maybe if you had a sadist girl, your relationship will turn your sexual desires to a somewhat more standard type.
Instead of wishing to be murdered, you want her to kick your ass and then suck you off using too much teeth.
I don't know. But what you desire is driven by what you do. Including women in your activities might help.

Also, dress her in nazi-costume and let her call you ein jude.

>>4580053
It tends not to be, no.

OK, so now I see the problem. It's not possible for you to engage in what you sexually want to.

Is this one thing that you are exclusively attracted to? sorry if this has been asked before.

Seek treatments for post traumatic stress disorder. It sounds like it's a fixation more than a fetish, and that's because it's impossible for your brain to carry on, and neurologically it's like the abuse is still happening to you.

There are ways to get your brain to make new connections, which allow it to overcome the bad ones that were made by repeated traumatic experiences.

For example a treatment that involves drugging you up once a week so that you can't feel stress. You then proceed to tell the story of your abuse, which because you don't feel stress, feels as casual as though you were describing a way to prepare potatoes. After several weeks of doing this your brain is able to reestablish itself, something you'd be unable to do normally because the thinking necessary to put past events into the proper perspective is too stressful to be undertaken.

>>4580044
Well, if your body says that PAIN=GOOD theres kinda no way to cancel that. You sound fucked to me.

>>4580058
I don't think it's possible to meet such a woman unless I'd pay lots of money. And then all I'd get would be fake.

>>4580059
Pretty much yes, it's the only thing. All the videos labelled 'extreme' came out to be not extreme enough for me. Unfortunately there is close to no real femdom snuff on the internet.

>>4580070
Thank you. You're right. I have experienced a lot of traumata during my childhood. I've never heard of the form of treatment you are suggesting and it sounds promising. Is there any name to it? Does a normal psychiatrist offer this or is it done by specialized psychotherapists?

>>4580091
there are probably many many people who would femdom you

are you sure you aren't conflating this with the usual can't get sex /sci/ problem, that your skills at finding partners are the problem, not your peccadilloes

So you get off by the thought of being killed by a dominant woman due to a problematic childhood?

Jepp, du solltest mit einem Therapeuten drüber sprechen.

>>4580097
The statistics say othewise. But you're right, that's another problem of mine. If I was able to engage in normal sex, it would be much easier to approach though.

>>4580097
He doesn't want to destroy himself, obviously. Which would be the result of him doing what you suggest.

I think you're misunderstanding. This isn't a normal sexual fetish, even though it sounds a lot like extreme masochism. It's a sexual obsession brought about by PTSD that's degenerated into a neurological disorder.

>>4580091
I actually don't know what it's called, but I'm pretty sure it's an experimental form of cognitive behavioral therapy. I only know about it because I saw it on a "Nature of Things With David Suzuki" episode about new ways of overcoming traumatic experiences, in relation to neuralplasticity. That's why I suggested you seek treatment for PTSD, since they should be able to figure out what you need and point you in the right direction.

But it's possible that this kind of treatment isn't available in Europe yet. Fortunately you seem fluent in English so you may be able to pursue it in North America.

>>4580109
>I think you're misunderstanding. This isn't a normal sexual fetish, even though it sounds a lot like extreme masochism. It's a sexual obsession brought about by PTSD that's degenerated into a neurological disorder.

Actually, maybe it's a combination of both normal masochism and an obsession brought about by neurological disorder. This makes more sense, since the two could aggravate each other and it would explain why it's so major a problem.

>>4580103
So advertise the way all other freaks do.

>>4580101
Das sollte ich wohl. Hoffentlich wird die von >>4580070 vorgeschlagene Behandlung hierzulande angeboten und ist erfolgreich.

>>4580109
Thank you for you help and the explanation. It makes a lot more sense now. I'm gonna look for this episode.

OP's problem is not fetish OP's problem is disciprin.

>>4579887

Op I'm>>4579859

You're not making it easy dude. you just can't try to cure yourself OP, Sorry.

Even if you could read and understand things that take years of study understand and practice.

So please, stop avoiding questions, you don't want to answer any personal question that has been asked,like "are you German?"

If you just don't say it, you'll have to live with that. and since you feel so bad about your "perversion" is not going to end up well, so seek help before It's too late.

>>4580014
>Well HOW do I grow some balls? Getting rid of my perversion would be the first and most important step in doing so. That's why I made this thread. Can you explain in detail what I need to do?
You're still getting it the wrong way.
FIRST grow some balls.
THEN you can do the rest.

Don't prepare to grow some balls.
Don't ask help to grow some balls.
Don't plan to grow some balls.
Don't promise to grow some balls.
Just grow some balls.

If you can't do that, see parts 2. & 3. here >>4579972

Those literally are your options. So time to do some choosing. Tomorrow, you are going to choose number 1.
Or you will be choosing number 2. & 3. for the rest of your life.

If you wake up on tuesday and you haven't got an appointment to go to a psychiatrist/psychotherapist, you have already chosen 2&3.

If you leave your first session with the psychiatrist/psychotherapist without telling him/her about your fetish, you have chosen 2&3.

And if you do that, I will be very disappointed in you.
Not surprised, but disappointed anyway.

>>4580132
I'm pretty sure I could find it easily. If you have an email account you're willing to share, or could create one, I may be able to look it up/watch it again to see if I can provide you with further information.

>>4580116
Yes, that seems to be the case. Thanks.

>>4580134
I answered more questions by now. You're right insofar that it seems rather hopeless.

>>4580139
Alright, thanks.

>>4580144
Sorry, I won't post my email on 4chan.

>say you want to cure your homosexuality
>peoples heads explode
>say you want to cure your fetish
>sounds good, brah

Unless your fetish is pedophilia or something else which causes you to hurt people, then there is not shit ethically wrong with it. If you want to jack less then jack less.

>>4580160
I wouldn't either. That's why I propose you could create one, since you could share that with complete anonymity.

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/natureofthings/2010/changingyourmind/

I'm pretty sure this is the episode

>>4580162
Read the thread. 99% of the posts are encouraging him to live with it.

>>4580160
>Alright, thanks.
No matter how difficult it feels. You just do it.
You will feel like you're being strangled.
You may feel like your lungs are paralyzed.
You may feel faint and you may get tunnelvision.

But even then.
Even when your pulse is pounding in your ears.
When your legs feel weak and your hands shake.
When your body tells you that the end of the world IS RIGHT NOW.

Remember that IT WILL NOT BE EVEN CLOSE AS BAD AS NOT GOING THROUGH IT.

Going through shit even when it scares you to death. Especially when it scares you to death. THAT'S what I mean about growing some balls.

You don't have to become a hero, but THIS MONDAY is THE MOST IMPORTANT DAY OF YOUR LIFE.

AND YOU ARE GOING TO FUCKING SHOW YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN DO IT. YOU ARE GOING TO CALL THAT FUCKING THERAPIST AND TELL HIM ABOUT YOUR FETISH EVEN WHEN IT KILLS YOU TO DO IT

AND YOU DO IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO

>>4580163
I created a new email. Hope it works.

>>4580167
Thanks.

>>4580185
Alright, I'll have to man the fuck up and do it.

>>4579535
HOLY FUCK OP NO ONE CAN HELP YOU IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO HAVE SOME FUCKING DISCIPLINE AND HELP YOURSELF

If you had even the slightest amount of self-discipline, you wouldn't have a fucking problem. Force yourself to grow out of it. We can't hold your dick for you while you pee, dude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zif0_60b3WU&context=C44e94f3ADvjVQa1PpcFM5WT2o6lJFNMOBk-yVWQ_K53g
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>>4580196
Actually I think everything you need to know is in the episode, if it actually is the right one. And even if it isn't, there are professionals who should know what you're talking about, even if not all of them do.

If you seek treatment for PTSD and explain your situation, sooner or later, if not on your first try, someone will point you in the right direction.

I must stress that you shouldn't withhold any information at all from your psychologist, no matter how stressful it is to bring it up. They can't help you if they don't know everything you know.