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i took one when i was 19 and got 155, this was a slightly eccentric one with SD of 16, usually SD is 15, so it probably equates to 152 by normal tests.

hardwork > high iq

I like how you talk about being gifted, but can't even use proper grammar. Way to go bro.

Also take your /b/ crap else where.

>>4515170
Oh Rock Lee, a good man trapped in a shit series.

>>4515166

i took this in 4th grade and got 137. this is the WISC, which is the legit one for kids. i took the WAIS, which is the legit one for adults in 10th grade. i got 134 on that.

>>4515170
>hardwork > high iq
^this

>>4515173
>I like how you talk about being gifted, but can't even use proper grammar. Way to go bro.

i have no desire to use correct punctuation on an obscure imageboard. i have better things to worry about. you knew what i meant, and i got the message across like 4 seconds sooner

>>4515173
>gifted people can't into informal and colloquial language.

I haven't had my IQ officially tested but from various tests and observations of me over my life, three psychologists have said my IQ would fall within the 140 - 160 range.

>>4515186
>psychologists
>various tests (probably online)

>>4515201
Not really. I saw a school psychologist for over half my school years who monitored my progress because I am hard of hearing. I remember having her do various tests involving naming things on a flash card and identifying patterns. I am not sure why I never had an IQ test done at that age and my parents don't remember.

Nowadays Ive seen a few psychologists and psychiatrists for more mental reasons and because I have been diagnosed with ADD.

I have done an IQ at this age because I refuse to do one. I don't see the point.

>>4515221
I haven't done an IQ test at this age because I don't see the point*

>i have no desire to use correct punctuation on an obscure imageboard. i have better things to worry about. you knew what i meant, and i got the message across like 4 seconds sooner
>i have better things to worry about
It always comes down to this
>Hey that's wrong and you shouldn't do it!
>LOL you don't have a life, I have more important things to worry about virgin.

>2012
>believing IQ tests measure shit

I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>4515234
lolwut
im lost
are you implying, that i SHOULD take the time to correct my punctuation on 4chan?
what am i gaining from doing this?
what am i losing by not doing this?

>>4515237
are you implying that iq test measure NOTHING?

>>4515238
They measure the skills specifically tested by the IQ test. All they determine is that you have abilities of this level.

There is a correlation between IQ and doing well at a job but otherwise it is pretty useless.

What gets you places, is having motivation and ambition.

>>4515238
They measure something, but it's certainly doesn't measure 'intelligence'. That's why hyper autists can do really well, yet cannot even function in society.

I'm not saying they are useless, clearly there is some correlation, but I don't really see the point about boasting about a score when it doesn't really mean anything. I'd rather hear someones actual acheivements.

>>4515242

i nexer said iq is a number which you can alone base sucess from. you are right, motivation and ambition are the key, but if your iq is 80, motivation and ambition arent gonna do it for ya. whereas me, iq+motivation+ambition=high chance of success.

>>4515243

define intelligence. it seems like your definition is being able to function in society.

that is success.

intelligence- capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.

in my opinion, those were exactly the types of things the iq test was testing for.

>I don't really see the point about boasting about a score when it doesn't really mean anything.
nor do I, but I am not boasting. i asked a couple of very specific questions, and said nothing about how awesome i am.

>I'd rather hear someones actual acheivements.
yeah me too, but my point is, the higher your iq, the higher chance that you will have some achievements.

In what way exactly is a high IQ beneficial?

The computational performance of even the most intelligent person alive would pale in comparison to that of a modern smartphone. We exceed the typical computer only in our ability to collate vast stores of information about the world, and it's doubtful we'll hold that over them for more than a decade. Even today most intensive scientific and economic work is not performed by humans.

>>4515253
To be honest, you are a low level genius. You barely make the cut off.

I highly doubt you will do anything successful.

>>4515262
>In what way exactly is a high IQ beneficial?
it is a good indicator. nothing more.

>The computational performance of even the most intelligent person alive would pale in comparison to that of a modern smartphone.
yes you are right, but we also have all the things a normal human has, just a little better at learning new things, understanding complex concepts, finding relationships between things.

im not saying a high iq makes you some kind of demigod.

>>4515268
i have a 3.75 gpa studying mechanical engineering. fuck off.

>gifted
thats like, what? above 125 iq? if you can get into university for any math/sci/eng major. you will most likely be gifted. its not realy something that makes you special.

>>4515283
130+

>if you can get into university for any math/sci/eng major. you will most likely be gifted.

exactly my point. iq is a good indicator.

>its not realy something that makes you special.

define special, but for the most part, yeah youre right.

>>4515286
Actually the average IQ of a university student is 120. Which is above average.

>>4515282
Doing well in school does not make you a fucking genius.

It just means you are doing well in school.

>>4515297
i think the emphasis was "for any math/sci/eng major"

>>4515299
>Doing well in school does not make you a fucking genius.

>It just means you are doing well in school.

well no fucking shit. i never said i was a "genius" because i am doing good in school. im a "genius" because my iq is >130.

you said "I highly doubt you will do anything successful." and i showed you that i was well on my way towards the path to success.

>>4515303
>genius > 130
nope

genius starts way higher. unless you think 1 in 50 people are geniuses

>>4515282
I have a GPA of about 3.88 in Computational Science & Neuroscience and an supposed IQ of 124.

It means bollocks.

>>4515319
average IQ of university graduate is 112 according to wikipedia (with citations)

>>4515303
Actually genius is considered to be between 140 and 180 depending on who you talk to.

>>4515313
>>4515327

i fucked up, i mixed up the words gifted and genius.

>>4515319
>IQ of 124.
24 points above average.

if your iq was 76, i bet anything that you would not have that gpa. all im saying is a high iq is a good indicator, and in trying to disprove my point, you helped it.

>>4515303
>genius
>130
no, genius is 1 in 1000, that's above 140

>>4515322
It still means bollocks. 112 isn't even above average. So what does that tell you?

>>4515333
see >>4515330

>>4515334
>112 isn't even above average.

uh... its 12 points above average. the sd is 10, so even if you did consider it, you are still above average.

>>4515330
Yes but not considered high IQ.

MINE IQ IS MOST PROBABLY IN THE 190-200 RANGE. MY WORKS INCLUDE THE PRINCIPIA.

Is. NEWTON

>>4515341
well then tell me what the fuck a high iq is mr iq authority.

>>4515334
>112 isn't above average
>100 defined as average

wow, you have a high IQ there

>>4515337
Actually the SD is either 15 or 16, depending on the test you take.

>>4515337
>sd is 10
sd is usually 15 on IQ tests, some exceptions exist

>>4515344
>>4515348

i meant to say that 50% of the population lays within 10 points of 100, so anything between 90-110 is average.

>>4515345
No you are an idiot.

There are broad classifications in which IQ fall. Average is considered to be between 85 and 115. 100 is the mean.

So the group which falls between 115 and 130 is classified as "above average".

Do you understand now or would you prefer me to explain it even simpler?

IQ tests are just another way to shoehorn people into thinking that they are smart/dumb for no good reason.

Intelligence is more then a measure of adaptation or how well has one adapted to their environment.

A simple paper test of logic, math, and reading skills cannot ever determine someones adaptability to all environments.

Also, high IQ does not mean you will have a high GPA. Because fuck bullshit professors and classes.

>>4515358
excuse me, a correction

*Intelligence is more OF a measure of adaptation or how well has one adapted to their environment.

>>4515357
>even simpler

you mean "even more simply"

yes please

>>4515360
so ants are intelligent?

this should clear things up. straight off of the report.

>>4515352
Actually, if you knew anything about IQ tests and bell curves you would find that about 68% of the population falls between 85 and 115 and considering the amount of people who fall on a score decreases the further you get away from the average, I highly doubt that almost 20% of the population falls on scores which lie between 85 - 90 and 110 - 115.

Come back when you have done a basic statistics course.

>>4515363
Academic ability level.
HAHA.

>>4515367
see>>4515363

come back with sources.

>>4515361
Simpler is actually a word.

And if you can't understand that, you need to go back to sucking your moms boob Mr "Im-a-genius-hurr"

>>4515362
Since I am bound to my definition of intelligence, yes.

Well played.

One could argue the intelligence of creatures. But I think it is a moot point right now.

>>4515367

LOL i got an A in stats.

90 to 109- 25-74%

>>4515377
>Get "A" in stats
>Think you can into stats.

>>4515374
of course simpler is a word, however "explain it even simpler" is very poor sentence construction. bad grammar, you might say.

>>4515381
i cant be bothered to pull up my transcript.

>>4515363
http://www.learninglinks.org.au/pdf/infosheets/LLIS%2021_WISC%20III.pdf
http://psychology.about.com/od/psychologicaltesting/f/IQ-test-scores.htm
http://www.hishelpinschool.com/testing/test4.html

Because I really can't be bothered going through a lot of sites to show you that WISC has a standard deviation of 15. You can argue some more, but your sheet is showing academic ability levels, NOT standard deviation. It even says right above it that the scores have been divided up into categories for educational purposes.

>>4515382
Says the person who can't be bothered to type with good grammar himself. I am not that fussed if it is poor grammar. Like you said, this is a image board on fucking 4chan. I don't care.

>>4515402
red= what im talking about
blue=what youre talking about.

you are arguing the wrong point.

>>4515418
You were arguing what the SD of a score was.
You said SD.

I don't care what some random score these educational people have decided to use, SDs is what you use consistently, over education borders and what not.

>>4515432
see >>4515352

he said 112 wasnt above average

i accidentaly said the sd is 10, but what i meant to say is that 50% of the population lays within 10 points of 100, so anything between 90-110 is average.

>>4515443
Yes but when you consider the SD and not the education categories, they are correct because 112 would still fall within the "average" category of IQ.

>>4515462
right, if you use the sd.
regardless of what the sd will be for a person, "the iq 112" is above average.

when they give you the score, they say its sd is 15.

its not saying that "the iq 112" could be anywhere from 97 to 127, its saying that "YOUR" iq could be anywhere from 97-127.

so really by definition "the iq 112" is above the 90-110 average.

So where did you take it?
Did you like walk into your school and just ask to take one?

>>4515490
i took this one in 4th grade.

i was doing really well in school, and was way ahead of everybody else, so my teacher reccomended me for a gifted evaluation.

i would get done with my work before everyone else, and get bored and start doing stupid shit.

they did this, so that they could put me in the class with the other smart kids, and be on par with them, instead of ahead of everybody else.

great idea, but floridas public school system is shit.

OP is showing the typical narcissistic behaviour of someone suffering from Asperger syndrome. His inability to comprehend that it is not socially acceptable to brag out your IQ is proof enough of his autism.

Just remember OP, you live in a non-autistic world where social behaviour is an important part of society. If you wish to live in our world - the normal peoples world - then you should improve on such behaviour.

Took a WAIS style IQ test in school, IQ around 128, scored above average or gifted in most parts though the memory part really screwd me up, mental retardation in visual memory and near mental retardation in hearing memory.

took the MENSA test a few years after, IQ 125

also took an internet test posted here yesterday, got a 97 LOL

>>4515486
No SD is the standard deviation from the mean score.

Mean = 100
SD = 15
One SD above the mean = 115

Therefore 112 is 12 point above the mean. And therefore is not one SD above the mean and therefore, when using SD to define categories as that person was, falls within the average range.

>>4515517
>OP is showing the typical narcissistic behaviour of someone suffering from Asperger syndrome

where?

> His inability to comprehend that it is not socially acceptable to brag out your IQ is proof enough of his autism.

show me where i am bragging

>Just remember OP, you live in a non-autistic world where social behaviour is an important part of society

right, ive done if for a while now with no problem.

Don't really think I'm gifted, took iq test at the age of 14 it was 118 or something around there. 20 now, but lazy as fuck. I am studying japanese and social anthropology at the university but failing in most of the previous courses due to lack of effort -.-

>>4515524
What the hell?
If you took SD 15
>The AVERAGE = 100+/- 15
So the average score is 85-115, so you are a high average, not above.
Kinda shows in your comment

>>4515539

what are you planning to do with your degree/s

>>4515524

well, if you wanna get technical, sd, and mean are kinda the same thing.

again, an iq of 112 is an iq of 112.
someone whose iq is reported as 112, may not actually have a 112 iq.

this is the reason for the ranges.


>>4515547

lol you have no idea what were arguing about. your comment was completely irrelevant

>>4515550
Little as for now, I live in Norway so I thought of getting some extra points. Hit the military and get free education if possible, they offer it. If not I'll probably go back to university, I love to travel and visit new places. Therefore social anthropology! Japanese is just for fun, but it would be awesome to study martial arts in actual Japan.

Live there for some years, know perfect writing and speaking fluently does not work against me!

>>4515547
I've been trying to say that 112 is not above average!!!

Geeze. But OP is an idiot and doesn't understand this. I don't have an IQ 112. I don't know what my IQ is.

>>4515565
Yes but you are saying that 112 is above average, but when you use SD to define categories, it is not. End of story.

112 is smaller then 115 and therefore is not above average when using SD to define categories, which is what a lot of people do.

>>4515565
>>4515569

>>4515566
nice man. you just gotta stay motivated. think about what life would be like if you dont get your degrees and an education. thats what motivates me.

>>4515569
>But OP is an idiot and doesn't understand this
i understand exactly what youre saying. im saying you are wrong for using sd as a means for findong out what the average iq. you should instead use ranges of set amounts of iq.

>>4515577
>when you use SD to define categories
>when using SD to define categories

the WISC provides categories for you to use, so why would you need to use SD?

we are both right, its just that sd may not be the best way to define categories when referring to iq

>>4515599
Considering WAIS, the adult version of WISC and the Standford-Binet test, the two most commonly used IQ tests use SD to define their categories, I think that shows which is better.

>>4515599
That's it, I'm thinking of how life really would be like travelling the world and the system could go fuck itself. I've used about 14 yrs on school, fuck no if I'm about to be wall mart employee after that effort.

>>4515158
I took one when I was 16 and got 155. My mother and a friend both also took it and got 155

Any of you with results from MENSA are probably fairly safe in throwing them away.

>>4515624
>and the system could go fuck itself.
^this

its just years of going through the system just to prove that you can go through the system haha.

>fuck no if I'm about to be wall mart employee after that effort.

haha i was there, i worked at mcdonalds sleeping on my cousins couch. i realized that i needed to do something with myself. thats how i know im gonna succeed, because ive been to the bottom, and realized i dont like it. now all i want is to get to the top. now im studying mechanical engineering at a good school, with a 3.75 gpa, and im doing great.

>>4515638

thats high as shit. what are you doing with yourself?

>>4515640
Jep, I think the system is there to "clean" out the lazy ones.
Wish I had been to the bottom to help me get the motivation to study even harder. But I get my motivation (odd enough) by looking forward to serving in the Norwegian army.
I hope to serve on the hugest ships, taking either engineer or it degree. I want to work with machines to some level, but I still want to travel a lot. I will take exam in Japanese though, it is awesome!

>now im studying mechanical engineering at a good school, with a 3.75 gpa, and im doing great.

Nice! Good luck to you my friend!
Btw, if my English is a bit odd/understandable have in mind that I am not native speaker and that I am working on it.

I also know that my sentences it a bit too long, working on this too.

I have a doubt, people.

How much can one raise IQ by working hard with mental exercises? About 20 points maybe?

>>4515702
>it
I meant computer engineering/programming to some level.

>>4515710
I think mostly IQ is genetic. You can however, raise it to some degree.
Do not have source(s)

I took an IQ test in 6th grade and got ~150. Never really used my potential tbh. Always got bored in school and didn't try at all and skipped and got decent grades. Now I am 26 and worn as a programmer but starting my own business.

See, if someone of average intelligence had my behavior, they would be nowhere in life. However someone of average intelligence has a great work ethic they could be in a much better situation than me. This shows that IQ does matter but work ethic matters more.

Bump for actual answers.

I hear Richard Feynman's was 125, and I also hear that the highest recorded ever was a mildly succesful hydrologist from Korea. So there ya go.

IQ is useful for social and statistical measures, and in extreme cases for diagnosing certain mental disabilities. Other than that, it's not useful on an individual level.

The only way you'll ever know how smart you are is by attempting difficult things sincerely until you reach a point where you can't keep up. Most of us just don't have the grit for that.

>mind operates differently
>get below avenge IQ
>that feel when you're actually much more smarter than that

>>4515719
IQ isn't genetic because it doesn't exist.

>>4517519
This.

IQ is popular because it's another way to compare penis lengths.

>>4517519

Take bill gates for example. One of the richest men in the world, was the class douche. One of his CEO's is actually an old classmate of his that scored the highest during tests all the time.

Not that CEO is a bad position to be in, mind you.

I'm not smart enough for science, but I am smart enough to do business.

My plan:
>make money
>fund research

Imo we are wasting too much money on things we don't need. It's time we started pooling money for things that will actually advance us as a species.