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If the theory of the multiverse is true and in fact there is unlimited number of universes covering absolutely every case and situation, then it is supposed that in one universe portals to every other possible universe exist. But in the same time in another parallel universe the portals to other universes don't exist. Now, the both statements are correct and true, expelling each other, because in the both cases the subjects exist and at the same time don't exist, which is impossible, by the laws of physics. And thus the theory of the multiverse collapses.

The theory also applies for the existence of an omnipotent god, proving that he does not exist. i.e if in a universe multiversal god exist, who can be in every universe, in every time and in another universe there is absence of this "god" respectively he can't be everywhere, everytime. Now by the theory of the multiverse the both statements are true and correct, but in this case they're again expelling each other, and thus proving that there is no omnipotent god.

This is a theory i came up with, not so long ago, i've tried contacting scientist to prove me right or wrong, alas in vain. So give me your thoughts about this.

>> No.4502949

bumping this cuz im curious

>> No.4502947

"every possibility" should be every possibility that does not break the law of physics. It is possible that the laws of physics preclude the existence of such portals.

>> No.4502956

>>4502947
but the theory itself proposes the break of the laws, and with it proves itself wrong

>> No.4502972

>>4502956
You misunderstand me. "All possibilities" should not be taken as "anything I can possibly think of". It should be taken as "any any macroscopic state that can be constructed out of quantum states". It is possible that their is no specific set of quantum states that leads to the construction of such portals.

>> No.4502991

>>4502972
i see what you're saying, my point was that if in a universe there are eventually portals to every other universe that can possibly exist and in the meantime there exist a universe where there is no such thing as a concept of a portal, then it goes down to something that exist and dont exist in the same time

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>>4502933
>theory of the multiverse is true and in fact there is unlimited number of universes covering absolutely every case and situation

Implying a actual scientific theory like this even exists. Show me the scientific publication!

>> No.4503001

>>4502991
I've been mauling this idea over in my head for quite some time now, and so far here is what I have concluded:
It is entirely possible for this to happen, if the case is that there are individuals of the dimension who have not thought of the concept of the portal, and those that have are aware that there is. There by it exist, and not at the same time.

>> No.4503009

>>4502996
IF you forgot the IF, douchebag

>> No.4503011

>>4503001
exist and not, at*

>> No.4503014

>>4503001
what i reached as a conclusion is that there are no unlimited number of universes, there are no universes covering every possibility, but they might be milions of universes parrallel to ours, covering most of the possibilities

captcha: random fate

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>>4502991
>if in a universe there are eventually portals to every other universe

You have big problems in logic

1) No one every implied that "every possible universe exists". That is just plan wrong. What you are talking about is not science. You are talking about science fiction.

2) Some interpretaions of Quantum mechanics imply that certain "additional" universes can exist. There are constraints on these universes though. "specific" universe exist. NOT ALL POSSIBLE UNIVERSES YOU CAN THINK OF.

3) There is no isolated "universes". All the bullshit you say is just nonsense.

>> No.4503019

>>4503014
Correct, you are unaware of the universes, as such there is no portal between you and them, therefore they do not exist to you, but it does to the people in the nonexistent said universe.

If hold something in my hand, you wont know that it exists in my hand until I tell you. So it doesn't exist to you, but it does to me. It exist and it doesn't at the same time.

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>>4502933
>basic logic fail
>misunderstand QM

According to your fucked up logic, Isn't there a universe such that no other universes exist to it?

FAIL

>> No.4503032

>>4503023
see this
>>4503014
i've made my conclusions

>> No.4503034

>what's your excuse?

I don't have magic powers

>> No.4503043

>>4503034
fair enough

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>>4502933
>LOGIC FAIL

You are creating bubbles, and saying that all possible bubbles exist. Then saying that all possible relationships between the bubbles exist.

That is fucking WRONG.
It is not possible for universe "A" to see universe "B" as universe "C". It is not possible to have all relationships between the universes exist. IT IS A BASIC LOGIC FAIL.

If there are mutilple universes, then there is a "set" of reltionships between them. This set is seen the same by every universe. This implies that it is actually impossible for certain types of universes to exist.

>> No.4503051

>>4502996
Read up on the many-worlds theory by Hugh Everett. The theory exists.

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>>4503032
How should have started out with that "conclusion", INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING UP BULLSHIT TO BEGIN WITH.

No physicist, no textbook, no anyone credible EVER FUCKING SAID THAT ALL POSSIBLE UNIVERSE EXIST!

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>>4503051
Many world's theory isn't the same thing as ALL POSSIBLE BULLSHIT UNIVERSES EXISTS.

If OP was talking about Many-worlds theory, then he would have already knew THAT NOT ALL POSSIBLE BULLSHIT UNIVERSES EXIST!

Instead, OP Assumed All possible bullshit universes must exist. Then had to be bitchslapped with basic logic.

>> No.4503066

>>4503053
but this is wrong, don't you by thinking of something actually create it in your mind, it exists, perhaps not in this plane or dimention, but it exists somewhere, and you could basicly think of absolutely everything,respectivly creating it, every thing you create you create in a different universe, is this not right? try to comprehend, think for yourself

>> No.4503067

>>4503051
Many worlds is not a theory it's an interpretation. There is no evidence to support it. It has no testable predictions. It is not a theory.

Other mechanisms for a multi verse have been suggested some of which are testable but many worlds is different.

>> No.4503085

>>4503066
He is not aware that he is capable of thinking for himself, which is why he looks for "credible" sources. Clearly he likes exploring these ideas, if a person, who he believes to be credible, suggest the idea. He'll come about eventually.

>> No.4503092

>>4502933
>If the theory of the multiverse is true
It's not. It's the most retarded and closed-minded interpretation of quantum mechanics.
It's like "if we can't localise the particle, guise, what if guise, let's spread the universes".

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>>4503066
>>4503066
>>4503066

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>>4503066
>>4503066

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>>4503066
Are you fucking serious?

>> No.4503105

>>4503095
>>4503097
>>4503101
closeminded samefag

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>>4503105

>> No.4503114

>>4503105
It's impossible this is the same person, look at >>4503101 >>4503097
Though, I agree they are rather secluded in their own world.

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>>4503066
/x/ ---->

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>> No.4503156

somewhere in the multiverse
i was elected president at 2 years old and conquered the world with my iron fist and tactical prowess
also im batman

>> No.4503163

>>4503066
You are a dumbfuck in every universe.
I also rape your mom in every universe.

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4503374

Imagine a large maze where instead of aisles there are one way doors leading to the next aisle with a door on the end.
Each aisle is a universe, each one way door is a portal.