/sci/ - Science & Math

learn to think outside of evolution.

Imo it's kind of like getting scared, except more related to mating. If you get scared of something like the dark, you are more likely to stay inside and be safe, and therefore you are less likely to get killed.

If you are embarrassed of doing foolish things, then you will be less likely to do things that might turn potential mates away. Therefore, the "embarrassment gene" or whatever you want to refer to it as would propagate more frequently.

To prevent you from passing on your defective genes.

its the result of sexual selection

http://bio.research.ucsc.edu/~barrylab/classes/animal_behavior/MALESS.HTM

also google "beta male evolution"
good shit, 1st page

do you "feel" embarassed, or do you just know that you should "act" embarassed?
is there a difference? nope. enjoy your alpha male actualization.

What's the point in balding?

why bald? why hair?

more hair? more ape.
technology (clothes) made hair redundant.
use the tool, love the tool.

You're making stupid threads to ask trivial questions about evolutionary psychology, which you clearly have put zero effort into understanding, so apparently you don't get embarrassed, OP.

How do I stop feeling embarrassed?

;_;

>>4473367
kill yourself, or do science.
take notes about what precedes feelings of embarrassment.
these are triggers systematically eliminate them.

also, physical activity.
when society tells you to feel like shit you can:
1. know society is arbitrary, dont internalize their values, or
2. conform, internalize the approval of others

you should 2. because you are a weak person. good luck!

What is the evolutionary reason for foreskin?

>>4473383
When I know the triggers, how do I eliminate the feel then?
And how do I internalize the approval of others when I never got approval of others?

;_;

>>4473393
Hit them with a stick with a nail in it. Worked for me.

>>4473391
feels better, jiz faster.
more jiz, more humans.

>>4473393
avoid triggers.
just run your scared fagass away from them.
or pick one and tear its asshole apart.
just incremental and dont selfpunish when the going gets tough.
good luck! (with the suicide)

> evolutionary reasoning
> reasoning

Fuck, here we go.

>>4473420
What do I do when going outside is already a trigger for embarrassment?
I am too scared of suicide btw.

;_;

>>4472920

If your genes were defective then how are you here?

>>4473432
get a dog
it will force you to go outside
bitches love puppies, instant convo.

reconsider suicide, you might have a natural knack for it!

>>4473420
> OP has social anxiety
> OP avoids triggers
> OP becomes a hermit

>>4473441
Oh god, that's terrible.

>>4473448
I can't deal with animals. I don't understand their behaviour, just like I don't understand human behaviour.

>>4473451
I am already some kind of hermit. It doesn't feel good.

;_;

>>4473441
When do you plan slitting their throats?
Or have you done so already?

>>4473465

you need more exposure
you need to have the motivation to conquer your fears

its fine to be afraid and uncomfortable...get exposed to it until it doesn't bother u

>>4473465
get yourself committed
zero rent, free food, safe environments.

whadayagotolose? your pride? niggaplease.

>>4473465
>>4473451
That's my point..it's not a good answer

>>4473472
I know,. But how do I gain the motivation to overcome my fears?
And how do I get the exposure without negative effects for the rest of my life?

>>4473474
What do you mean by committed?

;_;

>>4473481
Do an evening class or something. Join a running club.
I wish I could take my own advice..

>>4473486
How can an evening class help me? In the evening I become tired which makes social interaction even harder. In the morning on the other hand I am too full of fears.

;_;

>>4473491
It's all social interaction, a class forces you to talk with people. Plus they all have a common interest, otherwise they wouldn't be there so that would make it easier.

..& exercise will help with your lethargy.

>>4473491
See a psychiatrist, get some anxiolytics. If the pschiatrist doesn't work out, and you live in America, you can get aniracetam with no scrip.

Not only does aniracetam have anxiolytic effects, but it has cognitive improving effects as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniracetam

But I stil reccommend the psychiatrist first, because he/she will be able to get you some more potent ones.

>>4473498
My classes don't force me to talk at all. I sit there silently and no one notices me. Then I go home, cry and post on 4chan.

>>4473501
I have seen more than one psychiatrist and I am taking benzos. My problems are still getting worse. Since I don't live in america, I cannot buy aniracetam.

;_;

>>4473481
call a helpline. tell sad stories.
ask "my options?"
are you 8?

you cant trust your intuitions man.
you gotta put yourself on a path to fail hard, fast.
tomorrow or in 2o yrs. when you wanna do this?

i recommend suicide as a callforhelp.
they will commit you and pill you.
this is best. im srs.

>>4473506
And nothing any of those psychsts. did helped?

>>4473508
Where I live, there are no helplines and I am not feeling suicidal right now.
When I was a teenager and in psychiatric treatment, I was committed for announcing suicidal thoughts. They weren't able to help me.

>>4473511
No. My problems persist. The older I get, the stronger is my suffering.

;_;

>>4473501
Medication isn't always a good thing. I know of someone who has major anxiety problems. He went to the doctor, got prescribed medication, got worse, got prescribed more medication on top, & so on & so on.
He can't even go outside without getting panic attacks now.
Medication is a temporary patch but the underlying causes still exist until they're addressed.

>>4473506

i know that feel, im not embarrassed by talking but i always feel im saying the wrong thing..and that makes me a very quiet and awkward person.

4chan does not help with lurk more replies lol, writing is a lot easier though.

>>4473514
i really think you should kill yourself.

>>4473515
I was told that medication is only a short time solution. Yet I still can't go outside without medication. Otherwise I have instant panic attacks. It has been nearly 10 years now.

>>4473517
I don't know what to say in social situations. Normally I have no problem with talking as long as it stays formal, like asking a question that has an objective answer. Small talk on the other hand is something I don't understand.

;_;

>>4473529

holy ineptitude. i know that feel.

i can work in a professional fashion but personal interaction is ridiculous.

iwasnotstupid.jpg

maybe you need people with similar interests and long thoughtful pauses between sentences.

maybe a pipe.

How old are you & what stuff interests you?

>>4473543
I am already studying what interests me. Sadly most of the people there are younger and way too social. I don't understand I don't like them.
Yes, what I need are intellectual persons. I haven't found any outside of 4chan yet.

>>4473546
I am 22. Most formal stuff interests me, especially science and math. That's why I'm here.

;_;

>>4473552

just talk to everybody that you can.. being nice is easy.

hey
hi

etc, etc

but what if they want moar?

you have to understand why you dont like them.

>>4473562
The "hey, hi" is easy. But then? What am I supposed to talk about?
Oh and why I don't like most people? Because they are non-intellectual. They are interested in what I consider irrelevant, while they lack formal education or at least don't talk about formal topics. I don't understand their behaviour and they generally seem more like aliens or animals than humans to me.

;_;

>>4473570
Go to bed, Sheldon.

>>4473575
I wish I was like Sheldon. He doesn't seem to care about feels.

;_;

>>4473570

well media is a great starting point.

what films a person likes, music, vidya.. although asking that after hi is not the best solution.

neither is asking where they live.

sometimes hey and hi are enough to get somebody to initiate conversation with you.

patience is key to being stuck up.

>>4473591
There's exactly the problem. I am not interested in media or similar stuff. I don't watch tv, I don't listen to music and I don't play vidya games. I simply don't care about these things. When people ask me "what is your favorite ....", I simply don't have an answer and I fear that I seem weird to them.

;_;

>>4473599
>won't make an effort to relate to others
>wonders why he has no friends

>>4473601
But how can I relate to others? Why are there no other people like me who prefer rationality over inane and void banalities?

;_;

>>4473599

well enjoy 4chan then.

the reason i dont communicate is because fear of god.

beat that.. robots will be robots

bicentennial man

The thing is, only you can change you. You need to get interacting no matter how excruciating it is. How much worse would it be than how you feel now?
If people take the piss, they're not worth bothering with, so walk away, take a deep breath & move on to other people.
The more you do it, the better you'll become at it.
Everyone is nervous when meeting new people, except the truly stupid.

>>4473607
How can I enjoy anything while I'm suffering?

>>4473613
Where (other than 4chan) can I find people that might share my way of thinking?

;_;

>>4473619

well if we knew that then we would not be having this conversation.

usually if you look back far enough you will find a point were you were "normal"

we dont want to get Freudian so loosen up.. i guess you have to do things you dont like..yet.
or dont understand yet.

Comedy gold, jerry. Comedy gold!

>>4473631

*where

grammer police

>>4473619
It's hard dragging yourself out of it but if you don't, you're just going to stay there.
You need to make an effort or nothing will change.

Just try new things, you might be surprised that you like them, if not try something else. Experience new & different things & you'll become more interesting because you'll have more to talk about.

>>4473637
*Grammar police.

Which technically is a fragment, and should be rewritten to include a subject.

E.g. I am the grammar police.

>>4473631
I don't find any point where I was normal. When I look back I see that I always was abnormal.
What uncomfortable activity is promising to yield the highest probability of success regarding making friends who are (under the given circumstances) optimally intellectual?

>>4473640
What should I try?

;_;

>>4473646

what do you want?

>>4473646
Try anything, like music, learning a language at night school, rock climbing ... anything.
It's got to be better than what you're doing now hasn't it?

>>4473653
I want to experience positive feels.

>>4473656
Where can I find a list of such activities?

;_;

>>4473659

well its clear your not telling me, so let me tell you.

usually what you think you are missing that will make you happy.. is not the thing that is missing.

im not happy without the car of my dreams.

unfortunately i love driving and dat feel so in my case the analogy is wrong.

but you get what im saying.

i know that its not the lack of car thats not to my liking.

its the lack of means to ever get the car.

disappointment is complex.

>>4473673
What is it then what I'm lacking? How can I find out?

;_;

>>4473677

idiop you have legs

..i also already own a car

and thats the end of jedi training

>>4473680
lolwut

>read this thread
>realize I'm a grown ass man with no friends or plans for friday night

Just when I was on the outskirts of give a fuck, you pulled me right back in you faggot.

>>4473956
I'm sorry,.

;_;

>>4473956

you haven't yet hit bottom

just. let. go.

>>4473968

Alright nigger. You best be trolling. You are the whiniest bitch, I've ever seen.

This is no ad hominem, this is a fact. I always see this sad frog shit and every time you get advice you just talk about all the shit that won't work.

You have two options.

>Fuck your feelings, get the fuck over it. Go do the shit you want to do and stop worrying about what might happen. Instead, worry about what doesn't happen whenever you sit on your fucking computer complaining on 4chan all day long.

>Option 2: Fucking kill yourself you pathetic piece of shit.
Sure is aspies today. fuck this. i'm out.

>>4473983
I know I'm pathetic. Your "ad hominem" is justified. I hate and despise myself more than any other person could do.
I just can't manage to follow your option 1. I cannot bring up the motivation to change anything. The fears are too strong.

;_;

>>4472905
It makes you conform to society. Humans got to the top of the food chain by working together, there's tons of little mechanisms built in that "penalise" you for not being part of the group or accepted by it. Next time you either try harder or try to find a different group to fit into.

>>4473344
Balding is a sign of maturity. In prehistoric times bald men signified wisdom. Nowadays the pursuit of eternal youth changed overall societal perceptions faster than evolution works.

>>4473391
Protection or whatever. Also, pleasure to have us try for sex more actively. One of the two, science isn't exactly sure which.

Any further questions?

>>4473998
If you can't learn to answer your own questions you'll be lost on your own.

Every single one of your hypothetical questions has very easy answers, very very easy, you're just not even trying.

How about actually trying before feeling sad about something, huh?

Also, you sound like you have autism, that's probably a huge part of your problem, autists are fucking weird and stick out like a sore thumb.