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4436928 No.4436928 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw you want to become an expert at something intellectual but don't know what

What is something analytical, challenging, competitive and also has some sort of good payout & monetary value?

Math, Chess, Poker, Science, Stock trading, what?

>> No.4436936

Investment Banker

>> No.4436940

>>4436936
maybe

>> No.4436961

Poker & Stock trading yield good money when you do it right, but will lead you to your ruin if you do it wrong.

Chess can yield good money if you're like a fucking GM, otherwise you will struggle to live properly if you rely solely on tournaments. Anyway you need an IM title (rating >2400 + scoring against IMs) if you want to be paid for attending tournaments. Probably not worth it unless you really like chess.

Math and Science can bring you colossal amount of money or make you beg everyday for funding depending on the country you're studying in and the field you'll specialize in. Very good money: Finance, Medicine, Cardiology, etc.
Good money: Engineering, Computer Science, etc.
Begging for funding: Physics, pure math, etc.
Of course these are heavily country dependent.

>> No.4436997

>>4436961

cool info bro.

Ya I'm leaning towards Finance and then poker on the side.

>> No.4437041

>Chess can yield good money if you're like a fucking GM

wrong

>> No.4437076

>>4437041
What part of the statement do you disagree with?

>> No.4437108

>>4436997
For your information, Poker involves a LOT of math.

Google the following:
poker exploit strategy
poker optimal strategy
the mathematics of poker

>> No.4437123

>>4436961
>Chess can yield enough money to live like a modest hermit who spends 16 hours a day studying the game if you're like a fucking world champion

fix'd

>> No.4437132

>>4437108


poker involves math but nothing very high level
just figuring out odds, expected value, and maybe a bit of variance understanding

>> No.4437133

>>4437123

ya Chess is really starving for cash
its just not popular enough and doesn't bring in big crowds anymore

>> No.4437142

If game theory is math, then poker deals with a shit ton of it.

But Poker is soul crushing (even if you are winning) and will change you, for the best or the worse. Also, if you're in the US, you're pretty much fucked about online play and live play shouldn't even be considered.

Programming/hacking is another option.

>> No.4437574

Apart from personal investment, all the highest paying salary jobs in the USA are financial or medical. Go to a good university for something like that and become and actuary or a neurosurgeon or something.

>> No.4437632

>>4437123
>>4437133
Let's not exaggerate. GMs are paid for attending tournaments and they often get good prizes in said tournaments, that's enough to grant them a sufficient amount of money. Not saying they're living like princes, but still.

>> No.4437660

>>4437632

no, there are over 1000 GMs
the only ones making a living are maybe top 100
top 10 are millionaires
the rest have to work jobs, coach, write books, etc etc

>> No.4437673

>>4437660
Yeah of course, they have jobs. My point is their jobs are revolving around chess, hence they can make a living off chess.

>> No.4437676

>>4437660

Yes they don't make much money at all, the state of chess is saddening

GM Mark Hebden, who is around the 2500 ELO range, has for years earned his living teaching and by winning weekend tournaments. He told me he earns about £20,000-£25,000 a year.
I should also add that this is not a wage with any certainty of how much next year will bring in.

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4437706

>>4437676


30k pounds/year