/sci/ - Science & Math

Because i'm Studying math as far as Khan Academy goes, utilizing it as a launch platform for further mathematical study before diving into physics, classical, Newtonian, etc. at first, then more modern, and then subsequently utilizing that as a launching platform for quantum mechanics...

I also don't haz moniez 4 colleges, currently...

bump

Why the hell does that flow chart not have Thermodynamics leading to Mechanical Engineering?

Oh, boy, OP put stat mech after classical... ALL MY WHY. Do you even know what a partition function is?

> Electrical Engeneering leads to Computer Science
l2maths asshole

>>4404396
>thinks he knows the order in history and the generalization
>thinks probability theory was less prominent before the development of the hamiltonian principle
>mfw
>mfw i have no face

>>4404410
>implying computer science is a science
>implying EE doesnt have more math than faggot neckbeard weeaboos

?=math

Chemistry leading to astrophysics? Nope.

>>4404424
Do you even know what Chemistry is?

>Physics major
>Starbucks
>Minimum wage starting

>>4404418
> implying CS isn't 75% logic
you talk about programming not cs, it's like comparing a bricklayer with a physicist

>>4404424
>implying astrophysics isn't applied chemistry with thermodynamics and plasma physics

>>4404437
>implying EE isn't logic
>implying EE doesnt lead to microprocessors and silicon

>>4404450
> implying cs needs silicon
> implying cs needs electric processors
> implying cs isn't about abstract algorithms

>>4404412
>thinks probability theory was less prominent before the development of the hamiltonian principle
>probability theory
invented by Andrey Nikolaevich Kolmogorov (25 April 1903 – 20 October 1987)
>hamiltonian principle
discovered by Sir William Rowan Hamilton (4 August 1805 – 2 September 1865)

>computer science derived from electrical engineering

uhhh

>>4404450
>Implying that cs isn't much much much much much older than EE
l2taylor/euler

>>4404460
>implying those abstract algorithms did not arise from programming that silicon
>implying CS is real maths

>>4404461
>probability
>invented
>thinks the formulation of classical mechanics is possible without the historical probabilities of observables
>thinks classical mechanics cannot describe many processes in statistical mechanics, leading to its generalization as lower tier
...
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>grand canonicals
>hard science

>>4404465
>implying computer science and not math
>implying you aren't an ass-blasted autismal cs major trying to get on a higher level than you really are

>>4404480
>implying the idea of an algortihm did not exist before transistors

Oh wow.

Because humanity will only use my work for the most egregious reasons?

It's not like our species is going anywhere.

>>4404496
>implying algorithms are therefore not a component of mathematics
>implying you know how the algorithms work, and do not just use babby retarded recursive binary search

>>4404480
> abstract algorithms did not arise from programming that silicon
0/10, are you retarded?

>>4404485
>Implying i'm not double majoring in physics and cs
>Implying you know a fuck about what cs is

>>4404480
> computability theory
> not real maths

Hey guess what, you are both complete idiots. As evidence, observe how long you have been arguing using mainly green text and >implying

>>4404508
Why are you majoring in CS if you are simply interested in mathematics?

>>4404523
> implying we are only two

>>4404539
>Implying that the whole /sci/ community isn't just 1 person disscussing with himself.

>abstract algorithms

The most abstract algorithm CS has is putting 10 pigeons into 9 pigeons holes.

The sad thing is, it actually true...

>>4404480
>implying those abstract algorithms did not arise from programming that silicon

The deepest CS goes into silicon and hardware is: "Computers will always get faster every years, so lets not give a shit and write all our code in java". And that's when they spend the 5 minutes in school thinking about actual coding; most CS graduates can't even write a simple "fizz buzz" loop with out googling the answer.

>>4404546
> implying the whole world isn't one mind talking to itself

Because I'm a materials scientist.
I don't need to study any more, I _do_

pic related. Trying doing this reading a book, whelp.

>>4404546
>implying one electron universe

>>4404547

>>4404573
reported for pretentious CS major who thinks he knows all of mathematics because he studied "theoretical computer science"

enjoy the ban

>>4404555
>materials science
>not just applied chemistry
pick one

>>4404574

It's applied physics too.

and since when is finding an application for something a negative?

Any other working scientists here? Are your projects geared towards an application? most are these days

For the vast history of mathematics, algorithms were considered too simple and obvious to be even worth mentioning. This still holds today. The only algorithm I've even seen in any maths text is Todd–Coxeter.

Hence CS has nothing to do with maths. The fact the mathematicians are the only ones able to expand the field is proof of CS field's own incompetency.

>>4404593
>/sci/
>Actual scientists
>laughinggirls.jpg

>thermo
>not line connecting it to ME

fail pic is fail

>>4404606
read davey and priestly, you nigger
also, division algorithm, etc.

>>4404606
So you never read something from graph theory, cryptography and never learned an approximation method?

I don't even have a face because this whole chart is one tiny speck in an insignificant corner of the regions occupied by philosophy and mathematics

>>4404623
>also, division algorithm,

Yeah, that algorithm took me YEARS to learn and study.

>2/4=1/2 wtf is this shit?

>>4404635
euclidean algorithm
not to mention euler's method and newton's method

yeah, I guess Euclid, Newton and Euler weren't really mathematicians, so those don't count

oh, wait, you're retarded
get the fuck out of here

>>4404635
are you really this dumb? polynomial division? zeros of functions? and that is only the stuff you should have learned in scholl

>astrophysics
>apparently nothing to do with general relativity

Yeah nuclear physics plays a far smaller role than GR.

>>4404367
Too busy studying mathematics.

>>4404653
>method
no algorithms there.

>>4404751
>math undergrad detected
That's retarded and mathematicians will agree. Mathematics is not science, science describes our universe, math can describe any universe and is not based on observation.
Math isn't science and physics is not derived from it, it applies math but theories are more than equations. Physics cannot be derived without observation or assumption. If any physical principle could be derived from mathematics it would be proven and thus true forever. But an observation can always destroy theory so physics cannot be derived from math.

Its not an insult to say mathematics is not science it's just a fact.

>>4404802
I agree, of course its not a science. Doesn't mean physics isn't a subset of it. Stop being so silly.

OP here.

what do you faggots think of this?

>>4404824
It sucks.

>>4404824
Looks pretty legit to me.

>>4404824
math master race reporting in

>>4404802
See
>>4404824

>>4404819
Yes. yes it does.
You can derive chemistry (in theory) from physics and biology from chemistry and so on. You cannot derive physics from mathematics, it is not a subset.

>>4404824
hey OP.
I actually made a list for mathematics at one point, never finished it though.
If I get the time I'll finish it, make a pic, but not anytime soon. So you can have it/take a look/make a pic like that yoursefl if you want.

>>4404851
You can absolutely derive physics from mathematics, you clearly haven't studied much of it. You just can't necessarily say that the physics you derive is the physics that describes our universe, for that you make observations to limit your set of physics to be only that which applies 'physically'.

>euler's method
A function described by it's slope at every infinitesimal point, fuck evaluation it at a finitely many points. "Just glue together a bunch of line tangent every so often." OMG so complex and abstract, how did Euler ever think of it?

>newton's method
function defined as an infinite series, fuck evaluating an infinitely many terms. Let just use the first two terms. So abstract!

Whats next and arguments that binary search, bisection, secant, false position, least squares, rectangle/simpson's rule, dykstra, prim, RSA, DFS, BFS, Red-black trees, radix sort, dynamic prog, linear prog, etc aren't obvious?

>>4404849
And as i described you cannot derive any physical theory from a mathematical one.
You can draw all the flowcharts in the world but it doesn't change fact.

>>4404824
The things you decided to put in the boxes seems pretty arbitrary.

>>4404852
Hey Emma Watson fag, what's your opinion on Jacob Barnett?

>>4404824
why yellow?

>>4404864
It's all wrong as John Gabriel proved in his papers.
It's still very new so I don't expect you to know about it.
Check out his site: http://thenewcalculus.weebly.com/

>>4404874
seems like a pretty cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything

(I also start to like the Watson thing)

>>4404887
>the new calculus
reported

>>4404367
>>4404367
>>4404367

>Why are you still being an applied fag and not studying mathematics or philosophy? Or, if you want to better the world, biochem or eng?

I'd also argue that QM and Stat. Mech. should be directly related, and an arrow from Stat. Mech./Thermodynamics to Chemistry is also highly apropiate