/sci/ - Science & Math

>point of living
Why do people even bother asking this? It's like asking "what's the point of that mountain?". There is no point, it's there because it is. There isn't a "point" to life.

Polite sage for no science.

>>4336145
WOW very useful answer which i can get from most avarage intelligent people on street.
Thanks bro.

It's whatever you want it to be.
What do you enjoy? Go fucking enjoy it.
Boo hoo we're gonna die. Let's waste what little we have crying about it.

Life is a mathematical improbability. The mere fact atoms arranged themselves into molecules that assembled, self-assembled, self-replicated, etc. etc. is a NATURAL miracle.

To me, I think people get too hung up on trying to find a purpose in life. Is the mere fact that you have this huge opportunity to exist in a self-aware manner not enough? To be composed of unaware atoms into a self-aware organism is mind boggling. To know that you are made of atoms... to observe these atoms... ahhh!

I don't think there's a consensus "point" to life. *I* don't think there's a point in life. All I really want is to enjoy and live my few years to the fullest extent I can. I am nothing but atoms, and have been that for ~ 13 billion years. For this VERY brief moment in history I am capable of living, breathing, existing, THINKING. It's a gift of the universe. I don't take it for granted.

>>4336155
Nobody cries here and I enjoy my life as much as I can. I just wanted to hear some good opinions.

To get babies.

>>My questions is what is the real point of living and why nobody cares about what is the real point?
to survive and reproduce,and why should we care?
>>But WHY if we know for sure this (the human race and universe) must end?
because evolution made us so, it "wrote" in brain that we must try to survive and reproduce otherwise you woudn't be here

>>4336156
Finally a great answer. Thanks.

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Not even worth replying

>>4336152
What the fuck do you want? Someone on here to actually give you the meaning of life?

Please try not to shit up this board with your fucking stupid questions.

The sad thing is there is no point to life, we come and we go and in the end it doesn't make any difference. From the outside we're just clumps of molecules on a tiny rock, lost in the immensity of the universe, and sooner or later this rock will have disappeared along with every trace of our previous existence. So there is no point, whether we are conscious of it or not.

>>4336176
Read OP again.

>>4336156
everything you say is true but what have you been smoking, i want it to

>>4336188

Just trying to not pay attention during my Health Psychology class :)

There is no real point.
We are just a bulk of atoms with conscious who tries to find one like you do right now.

/thread

op is a faggot, go kill yourself

>>4336185
I'd rather not have to read through your badly written piece of shit OP again.

>>4336134

I struggled with that question and this problem since I was about 18 or so. I just turned 21 and honestly I think I found my answer.

We are as >>4336156 has described. Now considering we have no ability to change our current situation, or delve deeper into the origination of our particles, see: Big Bang, we simply have to do what our bodies want us to do.

Learning and striving to better ourselves, and compete with each other is fun and all. Can produce awesome results, see: getting laid, and can have some negative ones as well.

My goal at this point is to build my body up into a very powerful, efficient machine, and then find a woman who has done the same. I then want to have quite a few children and give them the opportunity to learn and acheive the level of understanding I have.

We are all life. It's incredible for us to be even able to understand what we are saying, to communicate, to simply BE here. You honestly have to find your "point" in life from within yourself. It's different for every single one of us.

Just because we are destined to die, it does not mean that we should waste the time we do have. Everyone was given an incredible gift, and it's up to us to use it wisely.

does anyone here become aroused by the wafting scent of their moms pube fungus and/or testicular cheese?

>My goal at this point is to build my body up into a very powerful, efficient machine

lol

>>4336239

Sure is 14 in here.

0/10

>>4336249
Do I smell butthurt?

>>4336253

Yes, it's pretty rank. I do believe you should take a shower anon. You'll never get laid like that.

>>4336134

make babby

>I'm not 15 yo EMO
>I'm 19 years old
>who want to kill himself

I think happy feelings keeps us living.

You dumb fucking nigger, you might be 19 but you are emotionally mature as a 15 year old

>>4336152
That's the truth though, the universe wasn't created for life. It's just something that came about due to the way some atoms and molecules interact.

>>4336281
Yes, I might be but i still want to see some meaningful answers. And I'd be more than happy to hear one from you. (I was always interested in your kind of people)

I guess it has something to do with other levels of organization of the matter and existance.

An atom unite with others simply to satisfy its energy requeriments for electrical stability, forming molecules, that arange themselves and react in the same way, eventually forming cells. Cells are somewhat alive organisms that have their own individual metabolism and are a kind of "life", but when you agroup many of two or three kinds of them you form a full and unique, pluricellular individual that, at some point, gain awareness of its own life.

Perhaps by simply beeing alive we make part of a greather organism in an upper level of complexity that we coukld never hope to understand. It would be like trynig to make a cell understand that it makes part of the body of a dog or something.

I'm not talking about god itself or some kind of religious bullshit... It's just following a pattern that repeats itself over and over, each time with a greater level of complexity.

In other words, we may be a part of something totally away from our imagination that we could hardly hope to understand, but its there and must be huge.

Just speculating, thou...

>>4336302
oh wow is this guy for real?

what a fucking stupid op

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>>4336145

samefag, is your life that boring?

>>4336363
3 of those posts are mine. Can you not recognise when someone is replying to a comment made in reply to their post?

How are you enjoying your first week on 4chan so far?

>>4336337
Do you mean that we and our universe could be a small construction piece of something really big? Like are the atoms and molecules for us?

>>4336370
3 posts out of those being yours are enough to make you an asshole

baby's first existencial crysis

>>4336363
the same sage rager i think

>>4336376
Who ever questioned that?

Reported, enjoy your ban you dumb shit.

>>4336373

Maybe...
But trying to undestand it the same way undestand things on or bellow OUR level of complexity (witch is the level just beyond non-sapient pluricellular life forms) would be nearly impossible.

A cell makes and individual even though its not and will never be aware of it.
In our case, what could it be that we constitute? Some kind of god??? Again: maybe... but trying to see that "god" like something we know and understand (like an old bearded man or other shit like that) is complete and utter bullshit.

Why is there so much mad in this thread?

Can the guy not ponder his own existence without you fucking faggots giving him shit? Are you so lacking in intelligence you can't even comprehend what we are talking about and thus sage the thread that is far above your understanding?

Or are you just a bunch of assholes with nothing better to do with your life than give this guy who is trying to figure something out a bunch of shit for no good reason?

2deep4u?

I'm actually not angry at all, I just wish you idiots would kill yourselves.

>>4336420
Reported, enjoy your ban.

>>4336420
I don't mind the fact that he's pondering his existence
The problem is he's annoying me on a message board. When I did it as a retarded teenager with nothing better to do, I contemplated it. Not with a fucking group. I did it alone.

not vidya

What is interesting is that you are looking for a meaning of life by asking others. As if the direction of your life must be decided by other people's standards or decisions. If anyone did what you do, what would be the meaning of their lives?

>>4336420
Because this is a science/math board. This kind of shit doesn't belong here.

>>4336402
The god thingy.. that is very interesting the fact that humans can't find any real point of living without thinking about god.

>>4336448
Not only about my life but in general about everyones. Hope you get it.

>>4336453
umad? sage moar plz,thx,bye

>>4336448
What the fuck is wrong in exchanging other points of view? Especially in such a controversial and subjective subject. Just thinking alone and postulating individual "thruths" sounds better to u asshole?

>>4336453
It somewhat does. Pondering about the universe and its meanings is fairly related to science.

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>>4336433
reported the same fag for sage abusing.
Freedom of speech motherfucker do speak it in Sage?

>>4336431
I think op wanted a scientific view on his question so it belongs partially to /sci/, now go dig your self.

>>4336505
>Advocates freedom of speech
>Reports people who politely sage it
lol

>>4336501
>Pondering about the universe and its meanings is fairly related to science.
What is philosophy

>>4336505
>post on the wrong board
>complain about freedom of speech when thread gets saged
Whatever you say OP! Good job complaining about samefagging and then doing it yourself. Have another sage.

>>4336501
If you are so weak-minded that you're asking others to make a purpose for your life then yeah. You are asking others what they have individually decided the purpose of their life is. It's the same as asking for a religion.
Make your own purpose, lamefag, and stop begging it from others.

>>4336134
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The problem with the positing of "what is the meaning of life?" is that it presupposes a platonic meaning that already exists when as beasts, our meanings (and really when we say meaning we are talking about a specific emotional state that we value as one, if not, the highest in our memory of experiences) are decided by our appetites, lusts, and drives.

The species of systemizers of the world gain their greatest meaning from a megalomania which seeks to model as much of the world as possible within their historical instance, in much the same way that the species of kinesthetic gifteds gain their greatest joy from the exertion of bodily energy, a mastery of the body to a dance-like state. Each species of ape gains their joy from the a flux of desires and strengths.

This is why a certain crass hedonism, of food, sex, comfort, etc, fails to satisfy and intensify. Because the satisifaction of such drives tends to lull the ape into sleep and boredom whereas the conquering of a hard goal, the exertion of a muscle gives a boundless pleasure to the thinking ape that has a long memory and a complicated system of symbolic evaluation.

>>4336559
It's up to the OP if he intends to use the opinions offered to him as his absolute thruth in life or if he intends to ponder about them in order to reformulate his own opinions incorporating important points that he finds fitting to his belief.

If he chooses the former, he is indeed a stupid blindminded fag. But eitther way is up to him.


>>4336515

That's why I used the word "fairly".
In order to abstract a subjective meaning, you should first ideintify the possible facts. That's the science part.

>>4336648
>possible facts
>implying there are any facts involved

Reading this thread I've learnt;

1) half the people on here don't understand science
2) 8/10 people on the internet are egotistical morons with this fuck brain that tells them to write anything that makes no sence just because they are a spreading an opinon that most brain dead fucks of the world share
3) people are confused and are so narrow in interest and mind
4) no one can accept what the next has to say, even if its right or if the suvival of the human race depended on it.
5) the human race is FUUUUUUUUCKED!!

/sci/, no thinking allowed.
OP, have you ever tried meditation ?
Just sit down, empty your mind (I mean, really empty it, don't let it wander off), and once it is cristal clear, just ask yourself the questions that disturb you, one at a time. You will see the answers that you need are already here.

>>4336661
>Opinion
>Science