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4204085 No.4204085 [Reply] [Original]

Are lotteries time travel proof?

Let's say you have the winning numbers of a lottery and you travel back in time to purchase a ticket. Doesn't chaos theory mean that your actions in purchasing that ticket would affect the circumstances of ball/number selection selection? That you would throw things askew just enough to reduce your odds of winning? I mean, go into a store and buy a ticket, but in so doing cause every subsequent person to purchase theirs roughly 30 seconds later than they would have thus causing thousands of numbers to be different than they were.

Or is your contribution to the events that determine the numbers so small that you'll probably still win?

Some lotteries use machine generated numbers. Maybe they could add variables to their number generation like amount of tickets sold and at precise times to better protect against time travellers.

Lotteries should be enacting measures to protect against time traveler schemes, I would think. It would be really unfair to the rest of us standard timeline blokes who buy tickets if they didn't.

>> No.4204093

This thread is stupid.

>> No.4204096

>>4204085
Implying people with the ability to time travel give a shit about something as petty and insignificant as money.

LMFAO

>> No.4204115

>>4204096

well, money can buy you power and the means to do things. for instance, lets say you wanted to conquer the world of the 1900s. You could repeatedly raise tens of millions in the year 2000 and buy modern weapons and gold, then travel to the past and raise an army with the gold, and furnish them with astounding advanced weaponry. Acquiring money quickly would be of significant benefit to the time travelling individual, while a closing off of such means would be a hinderance.

>> No.4204126

>>4204115
And of course, you're going to do it with lotteries.
Money, really, IS insignificant to time travellers.

>> No.4204134
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4204134

>>4204115
>Implying the notion of "ruling" the world is important to someone with time travel tech

You, yourself, just admitted that it would BE FUCKING TRIVIAL, something you could be done at a fucking whim. People with Time travel tech won't give two fucks about "ruling The world". Small potatoes man, small potatoes.

>> No.4204138

>time travel PROOF
>chaos THEORY

nothing to see here, folks.

>> No.4204147
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4204147

>>4204115
Money, material possessions and basic services are not really important to anyone with the ability to travel through time.

Money, goods, and basic services, are so easy to get, they they can be disregarded just as easily, and they end up presenting little if no actual value anymore.

>> No.4204158

>>4204134

Well, answer me this then. Who else is going to build you your space yacht, and let you walk on Mars, but the industrial civilization descendant from the world you conquered in the 1900s?

The money was a tool to conquer the 1900s, and the conquered civilization was a tool to do something you want. Maybe that third thing is a tool too, a step long the path.

>> No.4204168

>>4204147

I like to think that your picture implied that you think the worthwhile point of time travel is to bang emma watson.

>> No.4204195

Well, here's another angle. In response to the idea of someone predicting the future, a skeptic would say, well, if you can predict the future, why don't you win the lottery then? Well, what if its impossible to win the lottery even if you know the numbers in advance because they will change by the time the numbers are picked. The skeptic is then using a fallacious argument to debunk the future claiment.

Really, we should be all for honest arguments to debunk supposed time travellers and future seeers, not ones based upon faulty premises.

>> No.4204208

OP what you are describing is quantum physics and chaos theory. It has nothing to do with time travel.

>> No.4204216

>>4204085

No, chaos theory doesn't mean that it would definitely affect the circumstances of ball/number selection significantly enough (if at all) to alter the numbers drawn.

>> No.4204753

"what if its impossible to win the lottery even if you know the numbers in advance because they will change by the time the numbers are picked"

If the numbers changed from the moment you predicted them and until the moment they were drawn, did you then actually predict the future?