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>>4175719
*copypasta

-lol, haz posted in that archived thread...

>>4175719
huh.... think we have proof that EK and Harriet at one and the same

>>4175707
>>4175707

>not getting a math phd
>not $300k starting

>>4175725
nah, i did an archive search [listing most recent] on the word 'friendship' which is rarely enough posted (and is in this copypasta) that it will show up fairly early on if this is copypasta.
i found that thread about halfway down the front search page, i didnt even know it was a haz thread till i read it.

>>4175743
Fuck off, Harriet.

>>4175743
>i did an archive search [listing most recent] on the word 'friendship' which is rarely enough posted
How pseudo-convenient.

>>4175746
its not actually rare for people to think we're the same (i dont see why, her posts are fucking boring and she doesnt even post any funny pics)
im also apparently teacup, pifag, and bane, along with any other tripfag people want to assume me of samefagging...

retards

>>4175743
could you at least try and give a convincing lie this time?

>>4175752
how else would you copypasta check? it clearly looked like a massive /r9k/ style block of text, id be fucking surprised if it wasnt copypasta...

>>4175758
>its not actually rare for people to think we're the same (i dont see why, her posts are fucking boring and she doesnt even post any funny pics)
Being the same people to begin with certainly helps that.

I still wonder what EK would think of this, had this not been copypasta.

>>4175777
id probably have answered pretty much he same as haz, but in a less retarded and aspie way

(tl;dr of her posts was 'OP is a fag'
...you can clearly tell)

>>4175781
Elaborate please.

Also, so Harriet has Asperger's after all?

>>4175784
nah, shes very neurotypical as far as i can tell (but she is easy as fuck to troll)

these were her posts ITT, judge for yourself:

"I can sympathise, but it seems foolish and childish to end a friendship with a member of the opposite sex simply because they are not romantically interested in you.
True friendship is not something that is lightly discarded."

"Perhaps.
Most romantic interests are fleeting. I doubt that it is impossible for a friendship to last where one of the parties is attracted to the other, but it is not reciprocated."

"Why is that?
Are you perhaps confusing sympathy with empathy?"

i lol'd hard at that last one, i would have just called him a full retard, accompanied with a reaction face, she's got some restraint, i'll give her that.

and she's basically rigjt anyway, if the OP text is actualy true, then it sums up to "WAHH WAHH! if you wont be my girlfriend, then i dont even want to know you, because sex is the only thing i care about"
which is really fucking pathetic IMO.

>if you wont be my boyfriend/girlfriend, then i dont even want to know you
is that even a bad thing? sometimes being just friends is not enough, or insulting if that's the only option (s)he is leaving you with, so might as well not even bother. if it was somebody that took too long to court them into a relationship, then that's them being a betamale failure. if it was a somebody that was friends with them long before trying to date them, then that's just weird.

Except the problem is that you faggots probably end up liking every somewhat attractive girl you meet that wants to be your friend. There is nothing wrong with having attractive female friends as just friends. The problem with you guys is that you have the lost puppy-dog syndrome and you just want to be with anyone that gives you attention. People need friends just like you need a lover. Stop being so fucking selfish, man up, stop thinking of her like that, and go fuck one of the other 3 billion women on the world. Women sure love men who get so fucking upset over something like this that they're willing to complete disown a friend for their own selfish reasons. Keep on reaching for that rainbow, faggots.

Not science, saged, hidden, reported, called the cops, uninstalled windows.

>>4175813
no, it really is fucking pathetic,
to completely break it off and never see them again just because they wont put out?
i have several male friends that've never fucked me, and they're not such whiny bitches about it.

i mean if you actually like someone, and arnt just looking for a fuckjar, then you will naturally like their personality, so youd want to be friends with them. sex would be a nice bonus, but if thats not available, then fair enough, they dont want it, move on, but youd still want that good friend if you honestly liked there personality.

>>4175814
men are basically complete slags if they're single.
unless your a complete hambeast, you can basically get any single guy you want, it isnt even difficult
non-single guys are actually really faithful, they hardly ever cheat, they're tempted, but they never do.
(not that i hit on taken guys...well, not intentionally, i mean, not if i actually KNOW they're in a relationship)

>>4175832
who said anything about sex? we're talking actual and meaningful relationship with somebody. a romantic one. and if that's not possible with a certain interest, then why be friends with them? that's basically an insult to your feelings and pandering to a failure and rejection, and just being tortured and drag around the nose by them constantly. there's no point in a friendship with somebody that's going to constantly shit on you this way, thinking that demoting them in social status fixes everything, especially when this is somebody you want them to care about you like you care about them. sorry, but demoting to just a friendship is just a worse option here and the biggest bitch move a guy or girl can do to somebody. it's just better to straight up reject them if you're not interested in them, and not drag it out longer than it should. there's plenty of people to fuck with no strings attached, but very little on something meaningful

>>4175832

>men are basically complete slags if they're single.
... Alright, EK. Enough.
>non-single guys are actually really faithful, they hardly ever cheat, they're tempted, but they never do.
See, this is why we fucking have problems.

This is not true, and you are making generalizations.

I know single guys who are extremely prudish, and I also know men who are in relationships, but complete sluts who could not give a shit about commitment.

In fact, I can say most men/guys I know cheat on their women. Fuck, nigga.

And,
>Not science, saged, hidden, reported, called the cops, uninstalled windows.
>uninstalled windows

Fucking A, mate.

>>4175845
As far as i figured, being in a relationship with someone is basically no different to being FWB,
you hang out with friends, you socialise, you chat, etc, the only difference between that and your bf/gf is that 1 on 1 socialising is now called 'dating' and you are permitted to fuck them.

i suck at relationships, ive never really had a proper formal one where we actually ever decided to be boyfriend and girlfriend, i dont even like the word, so i just call it 'being friends' and then its easier.

>there's no point in a friendship with somebody that's going to constantly shit on you this way
not fucking you or not being your gf isnt 'shitting on you', its just that you arnt getting laid, all the normal friendship activities still apply, and you're still both on the level

>>4175852

Secondly, I don't the majority of you bitches even comprehend the notion of the FRIENDZONE.

The friendzone isn't about, ''herp derp, i like a girl and she made me a friend.'' The concept of the 'friendzone' is much, much deeper.

It's about a woman manipulating a man and acquiring certain gains from him whilst he has feelings for her. She is taking advantage of him and completely eviscerating his emotions without regard to his personage. Secondly, she is making him an emotional foot stool she can let loose upon when/if anything occurs in her life that she deems unsatisfactory. If it was about a girl rejecting a guy sexually, but accepting him as a friend, that would be a different story; the friendzone issue is not that.

Most guys don't blame the bitch for putting him in the friendship category. They blame the girl for leading him on for making him think that something more could blossom, and that is what's wrong. Even if the guy tries to move on, she utilizes certain words/terms/gestures to make him think that he's still in the running/competition when he lost the race so many moons ago.

This is what women fail to understand. You don't fuck us over by putting us in the friendship category; you fuck us over by manipulating us, knowing full well of our feelings for you. This is the classic friendzone issue.

>>4175852
>In fact, I can say most men/guys I know cheat on their women. Fuck, nigga.
huh...if thats true, they hide it fucking well.

>>4175864
>i suck at relationships, ive never really had a proper formal one where we actually ever decided to be boyfriend and girlfriend, i dont even like the word, so i just call it 'being friends' and then its easier.

EK, I'll be your boyfriend. I'll treat you right, my juicy bitch.

>>4175867
oh i see, so she KNOWS he fancies her, and strings him along just to get him to do favours and shit for her, and buy things?
nah, thats fucking devious, i wouldnt do that

just friends, all equal, on the level.
that works

>>4175867
>You don't fuck us over by putting us in the friendship category; you fuck us over by manipulating us, knowing full well of our feelings for you.
yeh, i never did any of that shit, probably wouldnt be good at it even if i tried (im a bit of a tomboy)

>>4175874
>I'll treat you right
>juicy bitch.
bad start.
and i wont ever want, or need, a proper boyfriend.

>>4175878

Most of the time, that's how it is. It's not even about buying shit. Money plays a role into it from time to time, but not all of the time.

I don't know the OP, but I can pretty much assure you that the girl manipulated him into believing something more from time to time when, in reality, she just wasn't into him. Girls treat guys differently who have feelings for them. Most of them manipulate.

I remember one girl who friendzoned me and treated me like that actually sat in my lap, caressed my neck basically brushed her tits against my face. When I tried making a move, it was always the, ''oh i don't like you like that, we're just really good friends and i feel OH~SO~COMFORTABLE with you. also, i have a boyfriend!" It gets too irritating at times.

The fact of the matter is, most women fuck with guys who like them. If it's not financially, it's emotionally. Emotionally is the worst. If the OP is just being a bitch made nigga because she just said flat-out no to his advance(s) and he's one of these "STOP NOT LIKING WHAT I LIKE" guys, then what I said doesn't apply to him. Judging by the tone of his post, though, I highly doubt that.

>>4175883
>and i wont ever want, or need, a proper boyfriend.

All women say that until they fall in love.

As for the bad start? Well, if it's any consolation, that's my way of being affectionate. See, I'm a good potential boyfriend after all.

>>4175864
>As far as i figured, being in a relationship with someone is basically no different to being FWB,
What? No it isn't. FWB are just friends that are comfortable with adding sex to their friendship. A romantic relationship actually has romance, love, infatuation, kinship, emotional intimacy, passion, attachment, commitment, and validation to them; they include what you cannot do in a friendship.

>not fucking you or not being your gf isnt 'shitting on you', its just that you arnt getting laid, all the normal friendship activities still apply, and you're still both on the level
There's nothing about sex here, just actually wanting somebody to closer to than a friend or family member. Having somebody you have such a strong interest in demote you to a less status is shitting all over it and throwing it in the fire, it's manipulating by thinking they're salvaging whatever you two have or fixing the problem altogether, thinking the whole notion is "better than nothing" when it is nothing, thinking there's any solution to it, and thinking they'll both will ever be on the same level. In order for a friendship to happen, there should be mutual interest, and if somebody has stronger feelings for someone that doesn't, there is no mutual interest. Not to mention the interests are too different to form any relationship, even acquaintanceship, on. A friendship is not possible here since both parties are not interested in each other in the same manner or any manner compatible with each other. A friendship is not worth it, especially for the one that was looking for something more.

>>4175884
>actually sat in my lap, caressed my neck basically brushed her tits against my face. When I tried making a move, it was always the, ''oh i don't like you like that, we're just really good friends
fucking what?? not cool.

>>4175892
nah, most of my female mates seem to want a boyfriend (as soon as they break up, they're out shopping, and dressing up and shit, tanning etc, planning to go on the pull)
im the unusual one.

is this science?

I hate the double standards when it comes to such events. When a guy cuts off contact with a girl that isn't interested in him, the guy's the enemy. When a girl cuts off contact with a guy that isn't interested in her, the guy's the enemy. I don't get that.

>>4175894
>A romantic relationship actually has romance, love, infatuation, kinship, emotional intimacy, passion, attachment, commitment, and validation to them; they include what you cannot do in a friendship.
i still have most of that with FWB, just remove 'love', 'attachment', and 'commitment' and its the same thing.

>>4175911
Social science.... vaguely.

>>4175916
1). If that were true, then you're not in a FWB anybody.
2). A romantic relationship differs too highly in emotional input, intimacy, and validation to even associate such experiences with "friendship."
3). Anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias.

>>4175894
>There's nothing about sex here, just actually wanting somebody to closer to than a friend or family member.
being really really good friends makes you very close indeed, trust me.

"A friendship is not worth it, especially for the one that was looking for something more."
wat? can you actually spell out for me what the specific differences are between really really good friends, and 'something more', if it isnt just sex, what do you mean?
you think FWB means you arnt passionate romantic ad intimate?
dead wrong.

im not trolling, genuinely want an answer.

>>4175905
>im the unusual one.

Right now you are. Allow me to assure you of this: You will want to form a relationship, a lasting relationship, with a member of the opposite sex. This yearn won't make you weak, nor will it make you strong. It's just something that is at the core of our humanity. Making social connections is imperative; a strong social connection, such as a relationship between two mates, is fiercely fought for.

Even the denizens of /sci/ want a relationship, though you may have the few aspies who talk shit about, 'DEEZ JUS KEMIKALS IN DA BREIN N IT AINT REELS.' Those people will commit suicide sooner or later anyway, so fuck them. You're not aspie as fuck, but you are a bit quirky.

Let's fuck, EK. I know you haven't had a good dicking in a while.

>>4175929
>being really really good friends makes you very close indeed, trust me.
But romance makes you feel closer. It's not the same thing. And only an experience in that would grant the ability to discern the differences between the two, not the concepts.

>>4175929

The FWB relationship indirectly implies that, although you enjoy being around the person emotionally and sexually, you do not see a viable future with them or a relationship in which you can fully expose vulnerability.

It's indirectly saying that the person isn't good enough for a relationship, but good enough for a fuck & friendship. Seriously. That sounds cold/harsh, but that's the truth.

>>4175928
>If that were true, then you're not in a FWB anybody.
yeh, very close friends, they definitely arnt just 'anybody'
really great guys.

>Allow me to assure you of this: You will want to form a relationship, a lasting relationship, with a member of the opposite sex.
i strongly doubt it, i like the way my life is now, why would i ever change it?

>Making social connections is imperative; a strong social connection
yep, and ive already got that, the connections are very strong.

>>4175929
>you think FWB means you arnt passionate romantic ad intimate?
No it isn't, you're just friends with the person, nothing more. Such intimacies and passion is inappropriate for a friendship and dangerous for it.

>wat? can you actually spell out for me what the specific differences are between really really good friends, and 'something more', if it isnt just sex, what do you mean?
... Relationships are just sex to you, you stuck up cunt?

>>4175938
we still have romance.
FWB doesnt mean 'no romance'
its by no means a chore

>>4175867

Sounds like a good train of thought man. I haven't been friend zoned before and won't put up with it if I do.

And this is most fucking definitely science

>>4175916

The most beautiful women should never have to worry about all that, imo...

>>4175939
>a relationship in which you can fully expose vulnerability.
the hell is that?

>you do not see a viable future with them
not marriage...but still friends forever in all likelyhood, thats a good future IMO

>>4175942
If there's that such passion and intimacy in place, it's not a friendship by any definition of it. It's a relationship with these people, with what sounds like an open relationship.

>>4175944
>... Relationships are just sex to you, you stuck up cunt?
woah! maybe i came off the wrong way, but honestly, as far as i see relationships, its just a very very good friend, who you can fuck, but monogamy is also implied.

>>4175946
NO, FWB means there's no romance in them because it's a just a friendship, romantics would be inappropriate and conflicting to the friendship. You have a relationship here, not friendships.

>>4175942
>yeh, very close friends, they definitely arnt just 'anybody'
really great guys.

You're in a FWB with several guys?.................

>>4175944

>you stuck up cunt?

Chill, man. Don't try to let her rile you up. EK has very unique views on life and relationships. This isn't the first time.

>>4175956
are we just stumbling over semantics here?
so a 'friendship' doesnt count as a 'relationship'?

i'll put it simply, we're friends, we're passionate and intimate, theres no possession, no owndership, all are free to do whatever we like, but we're good friends, we keep hanging out, and we like being intimate as well.

unusual system, and a bit vague, but i like it.

>>4175953
Vulnerability, EK. Emotional vulnerability.

You know, someone you can open up to emotionally and mentally. Someone different from a friend.

>>4175962
>as far as i see relationships, its just a very very good friend, who you can fuck
Relationships are closer than that, where even the tiniest seams are opened up, in a happenstance that Tarkovsky and/or Lem would say only its concept is explainable.

>but monogamy is also implied.
Open romance? Hello?

>>4175965
erm, is not [friendship] + [romance] exactly what FWB is??

>>4175968
>You're in a FWB with several guys?
erm yeh, kinda

>>4175975
>>4175975

>The FWB relationship indirectly implies that, although you enjoy being around the person emotionally and sexually, you do not see a viable future with them or a relationship in which you can fully expose vulnerability.

>It's indirectly saying that the person isn't good enough for a relationship, but good enough for a fuck & friendship. Seriously. That sounds cold/harsh, but that's the truth.

>>4175970
>so a 'friendship' doesnt count as a 'relationship'?
Not in the dating sense that usually takes up the words usage, no. "Friendship" applies to a more broader definition of "relationship."

>>4175978
>erm yeh, kinda

Oh, EK. We can't be in a relationship if you're fucking several guys. :( I expect monogamy in our relationship.

>>4175972
>someone you can open up to emotionally and mentally. Someone different from a friend.
you cant do that with friends?

i open up 'open up to emotionally and mentally' with haz, shes a friend, but i dont wanna fuck her, what the hell is the difference??

>>4175975
No... FWB means a friendship that includes sexual benefits. Mixing romance with friendship has, too often the case, results in conflicts with one-another. But there is a thing called "romantic friendship," but they're usually non-sexual with conflicts with the definition of "romance."

>>4175973
>Relationships are closer than tha
what do you mean by 'closer'? and how ca this ot apply to just a friend?

>>4175979
>semantics
i still honestly dont see the difference.

>>4175987
>i open up 'open up to emotionally and mentally' with haz, shes a friend, but i dont wanna fuck her, what the hell is the difference??

There's a huge difference. The way I interacted with my girlfriend, whom I loved deeply, was in stark contrast to how I interacted with my best male friend and close female friends.

There's a large dichotomy.

>>4175970
EK is the code for Emirates airline flights btw. Emirates is cool. Are you an emirate?

How are you guys fleshing this out so much? If I get friendzoned when I've made it clear that I don't want another friend, then I cut it off. No bush bashing, just plain and simple.

There's something very special about a close relationship between a guy and a girl when it can go all the way to sex. Not that it has to though!! Nothing wrong with it just being kissing and cuddling though right?

Can tripfags just get banned from /sci/ already please.

All a bunch of whiny uneducated fags

>>4175993
I don't think you see the difference because you haven't really experienced it.

Sadly, it's not something that can be explained. It's something that needs to be felt. What this other individual is trying to convey, in addition to myself, won't really hit you because you've never experienced it yourself.

It's like describing color to a person who was blind from birth. They just haven't experienced it, and they won't until their sight is cured(sometimes never cured).

>>4175996
i dont see why theres anything in particular i wouldnt tell haz, but would tell a boyfriend if i had one... i'd open up to both.

just because you're getting fucked by someone isnt an excuse to divulge more secrets to them than any other close friend.

>>4176000
nah, UK-fag born and bred.
EK is initials (middle and last name)

>>4176002
oh, so its 'love' then is it? ive never experienced 'love' and that apparently makes a massive difference?
i love my guys as friends, and i still find them hot, and i dont see why i need 'love'
if i dont feel that then whatever, i dont even no what it is, and probably dont want, or need, it anyway!

>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
intredasting...

i quite liked the thread anyway.
good discussion, thanks
:)

>>4175993
Why would you with a friend? Why would they?

>>4176011
>oh, so its 'love' then is it?
... That's.... generally what romances usually include... At least romantic love. Not sure how manage to undetect here so far.

>>4176017
why would they what?

>>4176020
meh, IIRC 'love' and 'lust' are synonyms.
thinking 'love' is any more than that is just people deluding themselves, and i definitely have lust.

MODS = FAGS

fuck you, they won't gift you their vagina, because you are already manginas

>>4176021
>IIRC 'love' and 'lust' are synonyms.
That's because love and romance include lust, lust doesn't really include the other. But they're not synonymous enough to match on visual thesauruses.

>>4176021
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_username=&
amp;search_tripcode=%21EKFQOBUFnQ&search_media_hash=&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dont
care&search_ord=new

Stop shitposting.

>>4176035
that isnt shitposting, this thread is actually interesting.
especially rebirth.