/sci/ - Science & Math

poke them with a stick

Find common ground and build from that.

>>4086556
i'm dead serious. i have to tutor them. how?

Treat them like normal people? I'm pretty sure my EE lab TA is autistic, but I just talk to him like everyone else and it all goes well.

Touch them. They need physical contact to know you are real.

Use gloves.

>>4086558
pull your dick out and say you'll do this for everytime they don't act like a normal bunch

or just become an autist yourself

>>4086559
no. real autists. the ones that can barely communicate/rock in chairs/make strange sounds and chew on things. not /sci/'s interpretation of autism.

>>4086562

>sage every thread
>i´m so edgy and cool

>>4086568
You mean professional autists?

>chew on things

i also chew on things, like gum and beef jerky yet i´m not autistic.

>>4086571
sure. whatever you'd like to call them. how do i open up conversation about what they need tutoring on?

>>4086559
communicate using vhdl

>>4086569
Whatever fits your boat.

>What kind of autist? Low or high level autists? Are they only aspergers? Is it another type of IDD?

>>4086575

you ask them of course, unless they are deaf, then you need to use sign language.

>>4086579
Well done, got me to laugh.

This TA is pretty goofy though, whenever I see people shit posting on sci, I always imagine that it's him.

>>4086543
As someone who had to deal with high functioning autistics for my psychology degree, by being blunt, direct, to-the-point, and specific is pretty much the key. They often have trouble reading subtle social signals and body language, to the point they cannot tell what you mean by it at all, so you have to pretty obvious when trying to convey something to them.

>>4086543

What do you Tutor them for?

>>4086588
thanks, i appreciate it.

>>4086591
physics, my grad school "requires" me to do it. it's insane.

Make sure the words you use only have a prime number of letters. If you use a word with a composite number they freak out and start flinging shit everywhere- at least that was how the kid at my school was.

Just go on the internet. Autists LOVE the internet.

Mate with their women.
The offspring will be able to translate.

>>4086543
But you are doing it right now, OP. That's a good start.

Like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc

From what I understand, autism spectrum disorders are caused by too much wiring in some parts of the brain. They literally can't see the bigger picture, sometimes to the point of severe verbal handicap. Repeated actions is their way of reinforcing "good circuits" and calming themselves.

Be consistent with your routine. Like, if you open a door, and flip the light switch with one hand, use the same hand again the next day. This depends on the severity, of course.

Watching out for sensory problems: noises, smells, certain fabrics, light. Microwaving a dinner, using a strong smelling cleaner.

To get them to learn you probably have to tie into their "special interest". If they love trains, use train examples.

Finally, respect their need for isolation if they want it. If a kid suddenly starts hiding beneath a couch, he'd probably be happier alone in his room. Encourage him or her to work on his homework with the promise of a treat later on. (like with any kid I guess)

>>4086588
also this

>>4086627
>he thinks /sci/ is autistic

>>4086588
This man is precisely on target.
You cannot insult an Autistic, because they do not understand what it means to be insulted, which is why they are so 'rude' in common society.

Do yourself a favor, and be as absolutely sociopathic as you can. Try to communicate solely through precise verbage or text, and make sure to define each piece of terminology.

If you want to show you care/accept them, show it through physical contact like bear hugs, even things as simple as a handshake mean a lot to an autist, since they can't communicate emotionally, they are limited to physical and mental communication.

Above all else, don't bother getting angry at them, it doesn't do anything. Focus on making sure they understand what you are teaching, push them as hard as possible mentally, and answer their questions if they ask them.

One thing that you need to be aware of, autists have a tenancy to 'argue', which is their idea of a debate, since they don't even detect the emotion they may be inducing. Pay attention to what they say, and slip them up intellectually whenever you can. If you can argue better than them, that might possibly inspire a sort of respect for you.

Visit /jp/ frequently for a few months, you learn how to quickly.

And holy fuck is that place pathetic.

>>4086568
I do all this and I'm pretty sure I only have aspergers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt1tLnwVpG4

i feel bad for these people. they have sentience, they can formulate coherent sentences, they just can't execute it. the memory mapping is fine, it just goes in some sort of fucking loop in the frontal lobes instead of coming out.

Observe their activities and mimic them, so if they like building blocks, get some building blocks and start stacking them in the same way they do.

>>4086702
It almost appears to be that the signals intended for the vocal chords are sent to the hands instead

>>4086692
Good point.
Never allow an autistic to talk about their favorite thing, fore the conversation elsewhere, or simply state "I do not want to talk about that."
If they ask why you can just tell them "I am sorry, but I do not find it interesting." and let it drop.
If they push, ignore them.

>>4086699
So do I bro, and I do all that as well, though I've learned to suppress it outside the house through years of training.

They are 'stimming', which is shorthand for 'stimulation of the physical senses for the purpose of distracting the brain', this is done because an autistic brain is like a kid with legitimate ADD, jumping from one thought to another, old memories being shuffled to the front and back and re-experienced without control, new ideas being reconnected to old ones as meaningless theorems are created and destroyed.
An autistic mind is very much turbulent, but physical stimuli can drown all that out and provide a calming sensation.

>>4086702
>the memory mapping is fine, it just goes in some sort of fucking loop in the frontal lobes instead of coming out.
Which is why a high functioning autist requires years of training before he can approach anything with any level of social grace, as he overthinks everything naturally.

Even the smallest idea gets caught by the brain, examined from all possible angles for however long it takes, then latches on as many ideas and facts and phrases and memories onto it as theoretically possible before eventually letting it go.

>>4086708
>Observe their activities and mimic them, so if they like building blocks, get some building blocks and start stacking them in the same way they do.
This is an excellent idea. Autistics always are always lonely, but never 'feel' the emotion of loneliness, so it doesn't bother them until, one day, they experience what it's like to be not lonely, to have something in common with someone else.
This may, unfortunately, cause an autist to invest his own, extremely powerful feelings onto you, so try to be as understanding as possible. While it is difficult to truly upset an autist, they enter into a berserker rage when they are upset.

I'm involved in engineering and come into contact with lots of math/science students and still haven' met a single autist. There's this weird fat guy who always drinks mountain dew and has weird speech tics "UH UH UH UH PROFESSOR.. UH..." Is this guy spergy or just a weirdo?

>>4086739
Eh, probably a sperg. You can tell if he picks at his face and nose a lot, or 'dances' in his seat, things like that, that only the socially retarded would do.

>still haven' met a single autist.
They aren't THAT common. And by the time they reach this level of education most autists have learned how to behave and talk without getting weird looks immediately.

>>4086543

Try to have them explain what they already know, notice the expressions that they apply, and try to apply their expressions when communicating with them while injecting your own "Normal Expressions" from time to time so as to "Acquaint" the children with more proper expressions.
Eventually you will want your own expressions to be Dominant until you have completely excluded their own expressions.