/sci/ - Science & Math

>>4074186

yeah - so do something about it.

America still encourages students to get arts degrees, the rest of the world is investing heavily in STEM.

in my experience its impossible to be logical and methodical or use the scientific method in everyday life, if you did you would soon find out what everyday life is.

better to be eyes closed feet forward.. you'l get further

Because facts are unpatriotic.

Because Christians.

It's not, but many stupid Americans are.

>>4074244
I don't really think Americans are stupid. They are, however, afraid of being smart. Afraid of using logic because it may contradict their fundamental beliefs and they are unopen to rethinking the universe. Afraid of unarguable facts, therefore they turn to entertainment and the media for information. America turns to psuedoscience and faith to explain phenomena which is a very dangerous behavior.

Not allowed to teach evolution or human anatomy, stem cell research is condemned by religious people, people don't do enough research on shit before they denounce it.

Because American policy makers and politicians don't know shit about what is going on in the scientific community

There's not as much communication between scientists and the public as there should be. A lot of people in this country believe some seriously retarded shit, but just because no one's ever told them how things actually work. It also seems like it's just hard to get the word out in the first place (which is ironic, given the vast amount of media-space dedicated to less valuable pursuits). It's a shame, too; scientists are trusted more than most other professions.

Without getting too political about this, I think this is kind of the end result of political correctness. It's impossible to create a universal standard for what is and isn't acceptable behaviour from the top-down, administrative level with which schools operate.

Not to get all Bill O'Reilly on the point, but maybe if we had stronger mores as a society and felt more obliged as individuals to call out objectionable activity, we wouldn't have to trust in lawyers and dipshit school conduct codes that make things like kissing, hugging and holding hands into sexual harassment.

because horoscopes and sports > actual scientific journalism

This might be the most ridiculous shit I've ever read.
Stick to getting high and watch Carl Sagan documentaries, you're in over your head.

Because they're fucking stupid, that's why.

Their educational system is failing, mainstream media is basically corporate propaganda and almost half the population believes that the world if 6000 years old.

Does America being the asshole of the world come as a surprise to you?

Because in America, faith is replacing reason.

>>4074186
I'ma say the population density of america makes it dumber.

Because Americans would rather worship celebrities and athletes than praise Nobel Prize winners.

>>4074767
last i checked universities no longer required students to be versed in latin and ancient greek.

>best universities
>dead and gone

Three things:

1. Corporations lobby for more money for them and less for schools, libraries and other things of intellect. That way their propaganda remains effective and another generation will be full of unthinking, unquestioning workers and consumers. Why else are schools the first thing on the chopping block anytime there's a budget crisis?

2. Religion. This country was founded by puritans so afraid of being wrong they traveled to another continent just to get away from differing opinions. Not that the religious in Europe were any more right. And you can't reason with religious people, especially ones holed up in their own backwoods communities of like-minded psychos.

3. This anti-ever-tell-me-I'm-wrong-about-anything attitude was capitalized and radicalized when politicians realized it suit their own needs. Sadly enough a big part of our population would rather have a politician say everything they want to hear instead of the truth. For winning elections that politician can't seem too smart or critical because his dipshit constituents aren't. So the average scumbag in a suit would rather fund pork barrel projects instead of scientific ones for a goal larger than his own re-election.

>>4074861
>dead languages
>useful

They aren't sciencephobic, they are just lazy and don't give a fuck about anything that is not immediately useful to themselves. They also have a strong sense of pride and hate being told different about anything they think they know.

is america the only country worth talking about these days

>>4074940
>is america the only country worth talking
yes.

At least until China takes over and then we all talk about what a shit and ignorant country China is.

>>4074186

What makes you think that America is sciencephobic? The US is at the forefront of technological innovation and has many of the brightest minds in science and related fields.

We don't need another thinly veiled theist-bashing thread. America has much bigger problems than people who believe in God.

>that feel when you have a fiery passion for science and understanding the universe but you live in america and nobody seems to give a shit, even your science classmates

>>4075644

You should try actually talking to people instead of walking by them quietly with your head pointed at your toes. You'll find many people with a similar burning passion.

>>4075630
>>4075630

what this guy said.

if you're really into science, go do science, don't worry about people who are religious. they'll come around eventually, these things take a lot of time (on the order of centuries).