/sci/ - Science & Math

no, the surface area of the cat would increase faster than the cat's volume of saliva so it would not be able to take baths at that size

the image is real, but what's on it is not.

>>4011696
kill yourself

>>4011712

slowclap.jpg

>>4011715

what of what i said was not correct

>>4011762
if the cat's entire body (organ structure, skin tissue, etc) was scaled up proportionally, which is what the OP clearly demonstrates, the salivary glands would increase in size as well resulting in the same proportional production.

>>4011762
firstly volume increases faster than surface area

secondly, saliva is produced from membranes, so would be in proportion with its surface area

again feynmann proved for srsl retardation

>>4011696
the cube increases faster than the square

>>4011696
regardless of the shape of the object, the SA:V ratio is always >1. are you fucking retarded?

>>4011799
yes, he is

>>4011680

That is indeed a real image of a real street with a real but enlarged cat photoshopped in

...that's the joke .jpeg?

I like the fellow with the cat basket.

It's real, it's a model of a person and you are all wrong. What do I win?

>>4011776

uh, if you're aware of any mathematical dilation that would increase every dimension of a cat proportionally, i'm all ears... otherwise i think we must necessarily assume some degree of disproportion

>>4011794

saliva is secreted from a gland, not a membrane -- you might have heard of them they're the ones called salivary glands

>>4011870
>uh, if you're aware of any mathematical dilation that would increase every dimension of a cat proportionally, i'm all ears...
are you joking? you have to be kidding, right?

>>4011878

name it if you can i'm curious about this

>>4011870
Proportion. I don't think you know what it means.

>>4011870

Are you fucking retarded or trolling?

>>4011891
He's obviously a 15 year old faggot who thinks he's Feynman.
>Feynmann

>>4011870
exocrine glands do their productive work at a surface between cells and a cuct

lrn biology

>>4011889

look a cat is not a regular geometric shape, it has ears and a tail and cute lil whiskers and all that, so by what means could there possibly be to make all of that grow at exactly the same rate

>>4011696

Your so stupid it actually hurts.

>>4011908
obviously magic, which is allowed in thought experiments

but you've gone into that "whoops i was wrong about surface area/volume so i'll troll, go into lala land" thing you do

>>4011908

I dont know if I should laugh or cry?

Please say your trolling?

>>4011712

This one has it correct.

>>4011924

even assuming your magically proportionate cat, what guarantee do we have that exocrine production would remain a constant? growing that quickly has to be very metabolically taxing

-Excuse me kitty can you move out of the way?
-Meowno.
-Okay.jpg

>>4011958

Dude just leave this board please.

Your like someone who has only watched a few football games on TV and now thinks he can join the football team.

>>4011908
Hahahahahahahahaha

You fucking idiot.

>>4011992

for this metaphor to work you would have to be actually doing something, not just poisting

it's more like we're both watching football but you're telling me i'm watching football wrong

>>4011870
>Implying a gland cannot be a membrane and vice versa
>Forgetting that all exocrine glands act on or as part of a surface and therefore must be membranous
>Pointing out a seemingly smart/funny though incredibly dumb argument.

If you hadn't taken it that last halfstep to the saliva-zone you'd have been fine. The cat could not survive because as its size increases its surface area does not increase with 1:1 proportionality and therefore you end up over-insulating vital organs leading to hyperthermia and death.

Seriously bro, dont have to get fancy.

>>4011992
>implying /lit/ isn't the culprit of this tripfag

>>4011908
your acting like its a balloon. Its a living organism, it has hormonal pathways designed SPECIFICALLY for growth (though granted, not meant for that size).

Do you actually know ANYTHING?

>>4012002
not that guy

but what you are do is argue rationally and scientifically at first, then make some error, and go into hair-splitting and/or arguing irrelevancies.

not sure why, maybe insecurity?

better to just say whoops, yeah, we all make errors.

>>4012002
No you misunderstand him, its not posting you're doing wrong, its thinking. You're no good at it, try to refrain from doing it in at all in future, its best for everyone.

>>4012008

google search results for "salivary gland": about 2,220,000

google search results for "salivary membrane": about 242

>>4012002

No its more like we are both watching football and your describing it like its a basketball game.

Example.

>" He is about to score a basket"
>"No dude wtf this is football and he is about to make a pass"
>"Well no because the 2 men there are doing backflips"
>"Dude those 2 girls are cheerleaders and what does that have to do with what I said"
>Then I look up to find you swinging on a lamp
>We make out
>It was good

>>4012023
If you arnt trolling you'd better speak up so somebody can set you straight before you make a real fool of yourself.

What stops a gland from being a membrane? Answer me that? You have to release the product somewhere, like, oh, I dont know, a surface. Now this is the hard part, so pay attention: greater surface area = greater transport capacity.

>>4012042

interesting, you'd think though that more than 200 people on the whole internet would call it a membrane if it were in fact a membrane

>>4012023
medfag here

probably better to google some histology pics

think like the lungs or intestine. all the real work is done at a surface.

though with space filling surfaces as in lungs/exocrine glands i don't know.

some mathsfag might know about fractal dimensions

>>4012058
any surface will do, you don't have to call it a membrane

though of course every cell in the salivary gland has a membrane around it.

>>4012058
He's trolling, nobody who actually gave a damn about science (even biology) would actually use the internet as a part of their argument.

4/10
you really had me going there.

thanks feynmann you made this thread hilarious

>>4012073
a smart but insecure 13 yr old might

>>4012070

i didn't call it a membrane that other guy called it a membrane

>>4012073

what about computer science

>>4012087
Meaning he isnt worth the time anyway

>>4012082
oh, aspie detected

>>4011680
A cat as big as a street? It must be fake.
I am surprised 93% of people would get this wrong though.

>>4011696
>>4011762
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>>4011908
>>4011958
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>>4012023
>>4012058
>>4012082


>>>/lit/2184638

oh yes now harriet comes in

i'm gonna go get some popcorn

>>4012082
>i didn't call it a membrane that other guy called it a membrane

"we" don't have to call it a membrane then, in this argument. surface will do

>>4012095
>implying you aren't Teacunt

follow up question: if volume is increasing faster than surface area would there come a point where the cat's tongue would have to no longer fit in its mouth to be able to lick the entire cat?

>>4012167
just stop

>>4012167
no

you can lick a huge cat with a tiny tongue

it'll just take a long time

>>4012167
No. The volume of the tongue and the total volume of the cats mouth would stay in proportion. The length of the tongue and the length of the cat would also be in proportion. It can still lick itself.

>>4012180

would the cat's hair get thicker in proportion (like each follicle) or would it just grow more to cover all hte surface area

>>4012240
Everything is in proportion if you are considering the same dimension each time.
As the cat grows, its volume increases faster than its surface area, because you are comparing a 3rd dimension value to a 2nd dimension value.

sci, the only board where people will actually have an intelligent discussion on this

>>4012270
>intelligent

given that the person in the photo is clearly a doll...

>assburger tripfag making up shit and acting all witty
>retarded argument breaks out
>wtf am I witnessing.tga

>>4012258

wouldnt hairs of that size get progressively more difficult to lick, even as the tongue grew in proportion?

>>4012288
this would be an attempt of english majors to troll us.

so far it has been very successful, and all counter-troll attempts have failed.

>>4012296
I am not sure.

>>4012296
why would they?

>>4012296
>idiot

under your logic, if you shrunk the cat to the size of a millimeter the hairs would completely disappear

>>4012310

less flexible... like at that size all that keratin would probably be reallly stiff

like moreso than even a fingernail

>inb4 teacup comes in here claiming cats do not have spines

>>4011680
i suppose the image is real. the thing it is depicting is fake though

Why would they lie about something like that? Give them some credit assholes.