/sci/ - Science & Math

BLACK HOLE IT

this is actually your only option, nothing else in the universe is capable of multiplying destructive force except black holes (create it with finite energy, can destroy infinite mass)

>>4004811

Okay fine, Maybe this then : http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-11/04/laser-spacetime

"The Large Hadron Collider didn't destroy Earth, so physicists are having another go. A team is planning to build an enormously powerful laser that could rip apart the fabric of space."

It's almost a super soaker...

>>4004822
that sounds like a really fancy way to say generate E fields of such large magnitude that when antiparticle/particle pairs are created they are led by field lines away from each other and do not annhilate.

which does NOTHING to kill a fucking star, again, only option is to create a black hole that falls into it

>>4004822
That just separates virtual particles from the vacuum, it would probably help the sun and give it more energy. If we dont destroy the sun in 100 years, the sun destroys US.

create a giant ion-ray that turns all the sun's hydrogen into helium. Then the sun will float way.

>>4004821
>>4004823
How can we create the "black whole"???

Why not destroy the Earth first, so we can do something useful with and make space colonies out of it.

>>4004827
We must do it with just the Earth's resources. I should solely be able to do it, too.

The sun is hydrogen combining at high temperatures and pressures. You'd want to snuff the sun. It would require a hell of a lot of energy to interrupt the reactoin You'd have to pull the Sun apart until none of the atomic masses are interacting, and of course, keep the entire thing from re-collapsing (which should reignite it).

>>4004831
not sure yet. fusion research pushes particles close enough to fuse, if we could push enough mass/energy into a small enough area, maybe we can get particles to gravitationally collapse

however it's probably 15 orders of magnitude more energy then we can utilize to produce fusion atm

>>4004827
>>4004821
>>4004823
that would cost too much, though. unless we do this we will all die very soon this star will kill us all

>>4004837
but how do we obtain this?

there isn't enough resources on this planet please /sci/ if we don't do ths we will all die very soon

>>4004843
how?

as a side note : if we had the ability to produce black holes we can protect ourself from ANY asteroid strike.

if you collapse an incoming asteroid into a black hole it will be like a few nanometer wide. that will either evaporate prior to earth, or it would literally fly right through earth and leave a nanometer radius hole in the crust/core which would harm nothing.

so think about it - advanced civilizations probably gravitationally collapse incoming space rocks to sub nano sized black holes, meaning that way out there in space are TONS of micro micro black holes flying around produced to keep asteroids and other shit from wrecking aliens shit

we need the sun for like plants and shit, brah

so the fastest/easiest way so far would be shooting micro black holes at a giant plasma ball?

there must be a quicker/cheaper way with current technology and resources

>>4004845

>>4004845
mass drivers on the Moon, construction facilities at L2, the usual.

>>4004859
too long

would require the goverment/every human being, etc

a couple people should be able to stop the sun

how?

>>4004854
singular, you only need one.

it gravitationally is attracted towards the center of the sun and the mass will fall into it.

>>4004854
Micro blackholes aren't even stable unless they weigh about as much as car. It's going to very difficult to make a microblackhole anywhere near that massive.

Also, why the fuck are you so intent on destroying the sun?

>>4004864
create a large number of small unstable ones in a region of space where it is very likely to interact with matter (i.e. absorb it) and thus one could gain mass and become stable

>>4004864
because if we do not destroy it in 100 years it will DESTROY US

also, why is this thread autosaging? what's wrong with trying to save humanity from this evil wizard?

>>4004861
PROTIP: you aren't going to be able to destroy the sun using only the resources of Earth on any reasonable timescale.

>implying that if we obliterated the sun we would be able to live
>implying Earth wouldn't freeze to nearly 10K

Well if we could generate a gravitational singularity (even a micro one) inside the sun it would continue to grow and suck in the matter. I remember when LHC was starting up there were some dubious claims it could make a micro black hole.

>>4004871
Yeah, and what's going to cause the sun to kill us 100 years from now? We could just run away from the sun in that time.

PREMISE DESTROYED

There looks like there's other people in here who want to destroy the sun, too. I'm okay with that.

>>4004876
Listen, Im not saying life without the sun with be easy. If anything its about time the Earth toughened up and learned to live on its own. But life around the sun has been hell. We are constantly in the palm of the suns hand, where at any moment he could crush us in his fist.

Patrick Henry said it best when he said to the Brittish "Give me liberty or give me death!"

In conclusion Brittain is kind of like the sun.

>>4004877
Micro singularities aren't stable(unless they weigh as much as a car). Not to mention that due to their small size they take a very long time to accrete mass and consume things.(~thousands of years)

>>4004879
>Yeah, and what's going to cause the sun to kill us 100 years from now?
he will unleash a solar flare massive proportions in exactly 100 years from 2011 that will destroy us all. will can not ESCAPE. we have to KILL HIM FIRST.

if we do not destroy the sun WE WILL ALL DIE VERY SOON, can you not understand?

>>4004803
Why do you think it doesn't exist? You think you can't put 3 Lithium ions together?

>>4004890
lithium cannot HALT the suns fusion system

stop trolling, please we must do this

is there any machines i can build to at least slow down the evil stars nuclear reactions?

throw a black hole towards it.

any other answer is troll.

the sun is a star made of fire

what would happen if we fired a star made of ice at it

>>4004876

> implying Earth wouldn't freeze to nearly 10K
> freeze to nearly 10K
> 10K

>>4004901

Some sort of anti-star missle is launched.

Actually, no

>>4004915
how many missiles/how big of missiles?

what would the missiles need to be made of?

>>4004912
what do you think it would freeze to?

>>4004874
DAMMIIT.

It HAS to be possible, you're lying.

If you threw the entire earth into the sun it wouldn't stop it.

I know how to stop it. Wait about 5 billion years.

>>4004942
that's too long, we need it done in 100

>>4004949
Then you're fucked.

>>4004901

If you threw the Earth at the sun then the iron in the core would mess up fusion and make it die early. Relatively speaking. The OP is obviously looking for some sort of catastrophic explosion.

... which will be best achieved by finding a black hole and towing it to the sun, because apparently making black holes is impossible even if you turn the entire solar system into a particle accelerator.

We are a pathetic species. We can't even destroy our own planet, less the sun. Most of you are rather narcissistic and give humanity way too much credit.

>>4004937
Even destroying the Earth is difficult:
http://qntm.org/destroy#sec5

hey now, just because we can't blow up something like a planet or a sun at this point in time doesn't mean that we're pathetic. We just haven't gotten to that level of awesome yet. Give us some time man. Who knows, maybe in less than a hundred years we'll be able to make a black hole gun that shoots black holes?

NUKE IT

>>4004985
And trigger a solar flash over? Don't think so bud:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/01/sun-explosion.html

Trilithium of course. Halts fusion of a star.

>>4004956
>>4004984
that's not going to happen

we need to get it done and WE NEED TO START NOW

iron

>>4004797
that doesn't exist, though

please be serious, he will kill us all soon if we do not halt his nuclear reactions

Steal trilithium from the Romulans. Make a deal with the Klingons. Destroy the Enterprise, and manage to dodge Kirk and Picard, and you can destroy the sun.

>>4004801
how much iron? and wouldn't this take too long? we must get rid of it very quickly or we're all fucking doomed

Pre-Nerf acquisition Larami Super Soakers

>>4004806
>>4004809
This isnt a laughing matter. This is very serious. Which is why I came to a serious place to discuss this.

why don't you just turn off the sun instead?

>>4004831
>mfw I read that as black whore

We build our own sun, only this time, made of ice.

we must destroy the sun in 100 years come on /sci/

bump for destroying the sun

>>4005125
no, a sun made of LAVA

>>4004801
a shit ton of this, we could do it, we just need every country and person to chip in and we could prolly do it

>>4005112
Whoops forgot my picture.