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3907252 No.3907252 [Reply] [Original]

If we're using too much energy, why is it so cheap?

>> No.3907262

government regulation?

>> No.3907271

price of oil is 400%+ in 10 years

just saying

>> No.3907286
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3907286

It is cheap in the United States because of this.

>> No.3907290

Competition between suppliers. Three cheers for the free market. Wages down, jobs shifted overseas, and an explosion of small businesses will keep energy prices low until there's a genuine shortage.

>> No.3907295

i wtf'd at your title then i copypasted it.

does Narcissism of small differences explain sibling rivalry or the israel-palestine conflict?

also what is at 2 o'clock?

>> No.3907298

>>3907286
I thought it was because american don't pay as high tax on their petrol.

I heard the majority of UK fuel prices is tax

>> No.3907303

Because we're not. And energy COULD be many times more cheaper.

>> No.3907305

>>3907286

yah this is bullshit; the oil would just go onto the open market as it does now, even had we not invaded

taxes has a lot to do with it

on the other hand I used to remember gasoline under $1 and I'm under <30

>> No.3907308

>>3907252
> If we're using too much energy, why is it so cheap?

There are cultural reasons, but largely you know as an oil-producing nation that if you dared to set the REAL price of a barrel of oil, the U.S. military would be streaming over your borders within a month.

>> No.3907311

>>3907298
>I heard

>sci - hearsay & speculation
stay classy

>> No.3907312

>>3907308
What REAL prices? OPEC is a cartel which sets production quotas to set the prices on a level they want.

>> No.3907314

Externalized costs and subsidies.

>> No.3907315

>>3907311
I'm right, faggot!!
what would you know anyway, you're me! you're only samefagging because you've got nothing to do on a saturday night since you ditched all your friends

>> No.3907316

>>3907315
>dat feel

>> No.3907318

>>3907316
sorry guys. i samefagged that again. go ahead, call me a bitch

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3907326

>>3907271


>2011
>still thinks that Oil is used to make electricity.


seriously are you retarded?

>> No.3907328

>If we're using too much energy, why is it so cheap?
>"Our children will enjoy in their homes electrical energy too cheap to meter" - Walter Charles Marshall, Chairman of the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority
ha ha ha, no.

>> No.3907339

>>3907328

> meter
> United Kingdom

Nice try.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_cheap_to_meter

>> No.3907341

>>3907326

fair enough, but many electrical providers are shifting from coal to nat gas, so the connection is more complex than you might think

>> No.3907348

>>3907326

plus he said energy, nevermind OPs pic

energy is energy

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>>3907295
>2 o'clock
>2clock
>2pac
>Tupac
>Tupac Shakur

>> No.3907356

>>3907349

time is irish

>> No.3907361

>>3907356
irishtimes.com

>> No.3907370

>>3907349
sorry 2clock makes even less sense so my brain automatically inserted the o to make sense out of it.

>> No.3907387

>>3907312
> What REAL prices? OPEC is a cartel which sets production quotas to set the prices on a level they want.

The REAL price of a barrel of oil, in full knowledge that there are only 1 trillion of those barrels available, and knowing also each barrel has enough energy to perform about 25000 man-hours of labor ... well, the REAL price of that barrel is several thousand dollars.

It hardly matters what economic reality says, anyway. Americans will have to learn the truth about oil the hard way, like they learn EVERYTHING the hard way. Americans are the best educated morons that the world has ever produced.

>> No.3907397

>>3907387

this doesn't make sense; the market wouldn't support it, nor would it need to

we'll have solar up in running soon enough

>> No.3907422

>>3907387

Most of the oil sands of Canada are located in three major deposits in northern Alberta. These are the Athabasca-Wabiskaw oil sands of north northeastern Alberta, the Cold Lake deposits of east northeastern Alberta, and the Peace River deposits of northwestern Alberta. Between them they cover over 140,000 square kilometres (54,000 sq mi)—an area larger than England—and hold proven reserves of 1.75 trillion barrels (280×109 m3) of bitumen in place.

Venezuela's non-conventional oil deposits of about 1,200 billion barrels (1.9×1011 m3), found primarily in the Orinoco oil sands, are estimated to approximately equal the world's reserves of conventional oil.

>> No.3907434

>>3907312

This
if anything I would bet that OPEC sets the prices LOWER than the "naive" macro-economic, theoretical, free market equilibrium value, because that way they can beat out the competition and use it as a political and economic strangle on the rest of the world. That is sort of the whole point of a cartel.

>> No.3907449

>>3907370

Sorry. I have that effect on people.


(2clock!!!!1!! is dead /g/ meme. And not even a funny one.)

>>3907361
>>3907356

I lol'd.