/sci/ - Science & Math

If anyone is interested in the video "Science Saved My Soul" here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk

It changed my life.

I love this video. I have had a quote from it as my signature on a few forums for a while and it really sums up my stance on the universe.

"It's like the universe screams in your face, 'Do you know what I am, how grand I am, how old I am? Can you even comprehend what I am? What are you, compared to me?' And when you know enough science, you can just smile up at the universe and reply, 'Dude, I am you.'"

>>3897934

Riveting stuff. I had goosebumps for half the video. Even still.

>>3897773
>I take refuge in the idea that if there is an ultimate being; I will not worship Him in a Church; but in amazement at the universe He has provided for me. I will study, respect, and love all that I am; we are; we can be.

I can't imagine that this would go unappreciated by any god(s), should they exist.

>>3897962

I would hope our "God(s)" would obey the same logic they instilled in us.

>I take refuge in the idea that if there is an ultimate being

Don't mistake the innate creativity of the universe for an ultimate being.

As much as I like science and being inspired by science, this is really just bait for the religious trolls that frequent /sci/. It has been so nice not seeing them for the last couple of days. They will be here en masse for this thread, guaranteed.

>>3897994

Point well taken. I'm not too deep into universal origin theories... yet :]

>>3897978
According to most theists, they don't.

uh, worshipping the creator of the heavens is not atheism, bro

>>3897978
you want an idiot for a God?

lulz

>>3897994
>worship the creation
>mock people who worship the Creator

sure hope you guys aren't doing this

>>3898021

I suppose it's not. I suppose I'm more of an agnostic, and I'm ok with that. I've denied my religion and that's a big enough step (for now) that took a big enough toll on my life.

>>3897773
>implying it is hard to be atheist

LMFAO

>>3898033

correction:

Denied ALL religion.

I'm deeply religious

>if there is an ultimate being; I will not worship Him in a Church; but in amazement at the universe He has provided for me.

I can respect that.

>>3898035

After living a life completely and utterly controlled by your God, denying that God was one of the hardest things that ever happened to me.

But keep trolling.

>>3898033
worship whatever made the universe in such an awesome way

good starting point, anyways

better than these non-scientific types that believe something came from nothing, randomly, evolving into higher and higher energy states, for no reason whatsoever

lulz

>>3898046
ino,rite? what's more glorious, a chapel, or the horsehead nebulae?

>>3898049
God doesn't control; if He wanted things to control, He would have made things to control, not wildly independent things, most of which say, fuck you, God

>>3897773

Thought this would be another corny atheist video but jesus fucking christ, this is damn good.

>thread starts with a one of the most inspiring videos of our time
>deviates into a process of inventing a new religion
stay classy /sci/

>>3898084
you can feel the cosmos feeding your soul, can't you

"the heavens proclaim the Glory of God"

just think; there's an available mechanism where you can hang out with the guy that spoke all the universe into being

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>>3898067

Well, this thread took a turn for the derp.

>>3898067

Right. A good portion of the human race does say "Fuck you, God." But to the mislead and ignorant followers of misinterpreted Gods that Humanity has created. The God, if one, I envision, created this universe in an artistic fashion, for what purpose: I don't know, but I do know he wouldn't give to fucking shits about my language, what I do on Sundays and who I fuck.

>>3898013
what are you talking about

>>3898099
i too have been giving thought to the question, why is God a creator? why did He create anything? why did He create this?

the difference is, i know i'll get to ask Him face-to-face, and get satisfactory answers, and actually be a part of His continuing creation

>>3898096
fuck, what are you, the samefag police?

or are you just outlining the awesome truth about God?

lulz

>>3898027

Um. Human Logic is perfect, child.

In theory, at least. No one truly acts on pure logic as it is humanly impossible with emotional tendencies.

Think of Spock as the best interpretation.

>>3898105
not him, but i believe he was referring to the half truth, half cop-out "God works in mysterious ways"

logically speaking, it is impossible for our logic and God's logic to be identical due to the knowledge and power gap between the Creator and the created.

but people still want to think they're their own gods, just so they can let themselves off the hook for their misdeeds, and dwell in the darkness, instead of the light

so sad

>>3898124
"Human Logic" doesn't even exist, much less have any claim of perfection. we can't, as a species, agree on anything of substance, much less an over-reaching logical scheme

ever hear of competing fields of study?

yeah, that

>>3898112
>believes im imaginary friends

i find it hard to respect most athiests, as their argumentative basis is somewhat akin to "i'm so smart that i can reduce all of theology to 'lol dumb people with imaginary friends', it's a good feeling to manufacture intellectual superiority"

the high tier athiests consider theology as well as the various impacts religion has had culturally, but do not believe in the existence of a god. they are incredibly hard to find people

>>3898112

Very good question; although we will never have an answer, but all the theories that pop into my head make God seem more human that I would like to envision.

Say he created us to simply observe us: God would have a curiosity factor that would prove he is not all knowing. A very human factor

Say he created us to worship him: God would have pride proving he is capable of acting on it with malice and judgement. A very human factor I would not like to see in a God.

Any reason you give for creation will give that God very UNGODLY characteristics that result in his human nature which couldn't exist in a supernatural being of such proportions.

Scary thoughts.

>>3898133
>god's logic

Is this the thread where we argue about the attributes of talk fairytale characters?

Fuck god!
Batman logic is the best logic!

>>3898170
Batman logic IS BEST LOGIC

>>3898173
>Implying most religious people aren't as dumb as a door nail

Bender logic is best logic. Bender eats god for breakfast!

>>3898192
you're proving my point

There is only 1 logic guys, and some semantics to apply it.
Y u guise al rtard?

>>3898173
that is because only a fool says in his heart, there is no God

smart, well thought out fools are few and far between

>>3898142

I'm sure it does, but we will never know it. Only theorize about it because as emotional beings we will never know what it is like to act on pure logic, as I'm sure human genetics; as similiar and complex as they are all code for similiar insticts/characteristics/organ structure/ect ect also code for brain development in the same way; yet our ability to use logic is impeded by our experiences.

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>>3898174
I am pretty sure that Batman could take out god.

>>3897773
Krillin could make god his bitch.
god is a very weak character, his story has poor plot development, and a piss poor setting. By the end of the story god is not very likeable.

>>3898088
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regress_argument