/sci/ - Science & Math

WELL WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT AMERICA ISNT THE ENTIRE WORLD, ONLY 1/20TH

Remember the time when the population reached five billion and that was huge news?
Six and seven billion seems to be mostly ignored by everyone and the media.

>>3857329
True. This will eventually only grow out of hand. Natures law of 'Survival of the fittest' will re-implement itself into societies around the world.

>>3857357
At least the top 0.1% elite will get to live as conscious beings instead of animals.

We have an entire second earth to colonize, farm and mine. The continental shelf alone is a landmass larger than Africa. We will be fine.

>>3857371
the elite 0.1% will just become a hive mind. I'm not sure thats any place a free thinker would want to be.

>>3857386
We? Every man for thy self!

Uhm, guys... true story, but I got a vasectomy today.

I feel so fucking VINDICATED right now.

>>3857386
>people colonize the seas
>global warming heats up the seas
>climate change causes increased plant life errywhere
>increased flooding brings more vegetable matter into the seas
>vegetables+meat+heat+salt+water
>simmer for a few years
>stir once in a while
>broth is served!

>>3857357
Are you implying roves of people will go out killing weaker humans?
If so, you're retarded.

>>3857415
>I feel so fucking SORE right now.
ftfy

>>3857430
enough food for eternity.
/thread

>>3857396
Unattached minds will have to inhabit underground colonies.

>>3857357
>Natures law of 'Survival of the fittest' will re-implement itself
confirmed for edgy teen. It's survival of the fittest in whatever fucking environment there is. If the society demands the survival of retards, retards are the fittest.

>>3857396
>>3857442
It's completely feasible to be a freethinker and an amoral machiavellian sociopath.

>>3857457
>If the society demands retards.
>If the environment demands retards.
ftfy
But seriously, why do people think we're solitary hunters?
We're related to apes. We're pack animals who gather resources together.

>>3857442
That Is undoubtedly another promising frontier, but the sea is richer in everything we need to thrive for many centuries to come. if we expand underground it will be as additions to existing cities, like how Toronto is already 50% subterranean.

>>3857457
>It's survival of the fittest in whatever "fucking" environment"
confirmed for an emotionally unbalanced teen. That term was not necessary.

>>3857484
You would accomplish more by getting an entry level position as a technician on a dredging vessel than dreaming about underwater houses, hop to it.

7 billion people. Time for shit meat made out of pure protein extracted from fecal matter. Mmmm.

Soylent green anyone?

>>3857509
It's no dream. I'll be joining 3 other crew members aboard the leviathan prototype habitat in a year. www.underseacolony.com

>>3857440

Yeah, my nuts are sore as fuck. Also I can't jerk off for 7 days.

jdshfjldhgjfkdhgjfkdsgjfsdkghjdksfgfhjksd

It's fucking worth it, though. Clear conscience, no accident babies and no condoms ever again!

(well, I'll wear a condom if I'm fucking someone I just met. I'm not a retard)

>>3857526
Why?

You can use bacteria and fungi to turn all that delicious shit into digestable proteins and whatnot.

>>3857545
Try your best not to die.

>>3857566
If I die, there are 152 more crew members and hundreds of applicants we cannot accommodate. The important thing is to open the seafloor to development, and clear a path for the pioneers waiting to settle it.

You see /sci/ I am achieving things, you will not. Soon I will build....Rapture.

Sow what would be the solutions to overpopulation?

Hmm, let see:
Nuclear warfare (superb effective)
Biological warfare (super effective)
Warfare in general (effective)
Abandon Home/ Inhabit space ($costly$)
Preserve large portions of mass land for vegetation (highly effective).
Set a global birth rate limit: (ultra effective)
Alter weather modifications (super effective)
Alter tectonic plates movements (superb effective)
Release the Kraken (mega effective)
Etc.

Hmm, so seem like excellent solutions.

>>3857590
Anyone else get the feeling mad scientist is just preparing for armegeddon?

>>3857612
continue..

>>3857626
I think he just wants live in an underwater hermit habitat.

>>3857657
with his finger on the button...

>>3857612

how is birth limits super effective? Ask India and China if it's really that effective? You know it caused India's government to be overthrown, because they sterilized people for riding the train with no ticket.

>>3857693
Its really just another excuse to put people in prison and perpetuate the lower class.

>well thats what will happen if it's not a subliminal intent, the same with marijuana prohibition.

>>3857657
Once atlantica is self sufficient, I'm never returning to the surface again. Enjoy your famine and riots. :3

>>3857693
Set global birth rate limit + (any of the following solutions to populous reduction) = Now witness a dramatic decrease in inhabitants.

>>3857612
Combine with /x/.
By integrating Science and Paranormal we can hasten the rise of Cthulhu.

>>3857712
How are you gonna protect yourself from mass drivers? Seems pretty simple to destroy something with a lower point of potential energy/

>Japan
GDP Going sideways
Population declining and thus GDP per capita rising

>USA
GDP going sideways
Population growing faster than inflation
Currency suffering from quantitative easing/weakening

Americans are working harder, for less, and their net worth is going sideways, despite working/saving due to factors out of their control.

>>3857718
Water makes an excellent shield, as well as obscuring ones precise location in a way satellites cannot overcome.

>>3857734
water isn't gonna stop a 100 ton rock from above, though it'll certainly need to be guided.

>i'm start thinking of more ways to attack n destroy. This is fun.

>>3857751
It will however greatly slow it and cause it to veer off course. This is marginally better protection than can be had on land. Invisibility to satellites being the greatest advantage especially if the colony is mobile.

>>3857693
Well with a limit on birth rates set, and abortion as a global reinforced law. Population would remain steady. Inhumane, but a considerable option, though i don't think the severity level for that has been reached.

It would be effective instead of super effective.

>>3857777
Well the next attack vector will be to try to initiate a land slide in your vicinity, as you'll likely be near unstable land.

>>3857792

Just carpet bomb the general area with depth charges

>>3857792
You're welcome to try although you have yet to explain why we'd be at war with anyone to begin with. Keeping in mind that legally we are an offshore extension on Brevard county Florida.

>>3857804
Actually thwarting depth charges is as easy as a net suspended between colony and surface. You'd need to get close and use a torpedo, or drop something from space with exact coordinates, in spite of satellite invisibility.

>>3857430
baby you got a stew goin'!

>>3857812
Not if you detonate a nuke underwater. I imagine the high density of water would actually make the shock effects worse than an air burst.

>>3857822
That is true. But nobody uses nukes these days. We didn't even use them in nam or iraq. It is politically impossible. Besides which it would constitute a nuclear attack on us citizens. Not a good plan.

>>3857430

>climate change causes increased plant life errywhere

There's a few problems with that:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/329/5994/940.abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcc.81/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-294X.2011.05086.x/full

>vegetables+meat+heat+salt+water
>simmer for a few years
>stir once in a while
>broth is served!

THAT IS SO UNREALISTIC JEEZ

I don't remember a time when the world population wasn't at least 6 billion.

Does the world really need that many scientists?

An embargo or siege will kill the undersea colony. No need for bloodshed. They need to replenish their air and other supplies regularly, and by preventing the stuck-up undersea dwellers from doing so, they will be forced to surrender.

>>3857612

YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD ALSO DO

WE COULD ALSO GIVE WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND HAVE CAREERS IN THE DEVELOPING WORLD SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A FUTURE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE BEING BABY FACTORIES

WE COULD ALSO PROMOTE SMALL FAMILY SIZES THROUGH INTERNET- AND SCHOOL-BASED EDUCATION MEASURES AND ADVERTISING CAMPAIGNS

PROBABLY MOST EFFECTIVE OF ALL IS TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF CONTRACEPTIVE MEASURES AND ELIMINATE THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH ABORTION

BUT I'M SURE YOUR IDEAS ARE GOOD TOO, DR DOOM

>>3857922
Oxygen can be extracted directly from sea water. Submarines do this today. The ocean is full of edible biomass both plant and animal. Constant clean energy can be had from an array of turbines in the gulf stream. I am not saying an undersea colony is unassailable, but the means exist for it to be self sufficient. When did this become about the military aspect? The point of subsea communities isn't that they are immune to attack any more than that is the point of a surface city. It's just a place to live and work as the mainland is desertified, deforested and crowded in coming centuries.

>>3857939

capital letters makes it true.

>>3857950

YOU BET YOUR ASS IT DOES

>>3857947

Why don't you build an under sea colony on Europa!

>>3857819
Yup. Don't that there cookin' smell mighty fine now don't it?

>>3857980
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiWQhX-1ZV4&feature=relmfu

>>3857922
In some ways, the medium makes a seabottom habitat more defensible, especially if they're ambient pressure.

Of course, it also pose new challenges to defenses, but so does a habitat situated at the bottom of the airsea.

>>3857988
I was certain it would be this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8

Solution: kill the devastatingly poor, sick, and stupid

>>3858000

>000
>This kid has more talent in his 11 fingers than Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber combined.

>>3857939
Why not just rid the body of the hormones that cause arousal?

>>3857329
I remember 4 billion

>>3858674
no i dont. I'm just thinking of the captain planet intro.

What is the breaking news story supposed to be? It's been closer to 7 billion for a long time. It's like you're all retarded middleschoolers or something.

>world: 6,966,559,298 people
>implying it is ever possible to know the exact global population
>implying hundreds of thousands of people aren't born every day
>implying hundreds of thousands of people don't die every day

>>3858695
>implying the invention of the GPS phone didn't make it possible

>>3858695
>hundreds of thousands of people die every day

well shit

>>3858712
out of billions of people, thats only a tiny tiny fraction.

>>3858711
>implying everyone on earth could be accurately counted
>implying while you are counting, hundreds of people wont be dying, thereby fucking up the accuracy of the count even if counting billions of people were feasible anyway.

>>3858712
With 100k death per day, assuming constant 7 billion people alive, we'd have a life expectancy of 190 years roughly. I thus assume it makes sense so say several hundreds of thousands of people die each day.

>>3858726
Care to explain your bullshit math?

>>3858726
that's presuming a static population (births per day are equal to deaths per day...which they arn't. there are more births than deaths)
also, i said several hundred thousand, not just one hundred thousand.

it just blows my mind

200,000+- people going in and out of existence every day

im only 1 :o...
im so insignificant ;_;

>>3858731
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=(7000000000%2F100000)%2F365

>>3858736
Are you like ten years old, or just really slow?

>>3858731
7 billion people. 100k deaths per day. That 7 billion deaths per 190 years (roughly). You renew the whole population in 190 years in average. Average life expectancy is 190 years. If you couldn't verify that by yourself, you should think about getting out of /sci/.

>>3858743
>he thinks im 10 because i use emoticons

fuck u
im having a little self aware moment

>>3858748
no, he thinks your slow because you seem astounded by this pretty obvious fact that hundreds of thousands of people die every day. most of us just know it and take it for granted.

>>3858748

>>3858734
>>With 100k death per day, assuming constant 7 billion people alive
>that's presuming a static population (births per day are equal to deaths per day...
Yes, that's why I mentioned it...

>>we'd have a life expectancy of 190 years roughly.
>also, i said several hundred thousand, not just one hundred thousand.
Which is why I showed that 100k gives 190 years. I assume people can understand that it means that several times 100k would divide by that much the 190 years until you find a satisfying result.


You seem to think that I was going against your post while I was approving it. Was my post that unclear?

>>3858758
no. sorry, i skim read.
you're correct.

>>3858773

>No, sorry, I'm illiterate. You're correct.

FTFY

Skimming isn't something most people do to posts containing under three sentences.