/sci/ - Science & Math

bump I need that image, sci

this

Alpha degrees tier list up in this bitch

>>3842474
>music
>high
Excuse me , sir while I bang man head at a wall

>>3842480

Just going by what OP posted

>what you love
Learning is a process inextricably linked with embracing reality, basing your education on an emotional attachment is like ingesting faeces because it makes you throw up.

>>3842508
OP here - this was my exact reaction to that image when /adv/ posted it. Now where is that god tier - shit tier degree image.

that's what I'm here for

Unless "what you love" includes philosophy or another equally useless field.

>What you love

That will change by the time you finish your degree.

>>3842436
this is what has caused the world to have way too many philosophy, psychology, and grievance group studies majors.

Don't forget the last tier

Shit-nigga-what-the-fuck-are-you-doing tier: What /sci/ tells you

>>3842613
philosophy is a good field of study.

as are other social sciences and liberal arts


sci is butthurt because they arent true polymaths

>>3842636
enjoy making coffee for a career faggot

>>3842474
>>3842485
>Psychology
>money
NOPE. Psychiatry maybe, but with the recent flood of half-baked "psychologists"? Ha! Unless you're a really good psychologist you're completely fucked for money and even the brilliant ones wish they had the money that psychiatrists get.

>>3842636
Philosophy is an interesting field of study, and a worthwile second degree that teaches you how to think.

There is some merit to social sciences in some cases, but overall they're horrible and attract horrible people that know they need the murkiness of the subject and the lack of absolute evidence so they won't get called out on their idiotic bullshit.

>>3842639
>butthurt

>what you love

I seriously hope you guys dont do this

Currently doing: Nothing
Want to do: Nothing

Bow before me, inferior scum

>>3842644
Then whos flipping them burgers right now?

>>3842648
Not me
I don't have to deal with the depression of working in a restaurant for a handful of pennies nor do I have to deal with the soul crushing realization you sacrificed most of your life for a job and do 60+ hour workweeks as an engineer.

I just take it easy

>>3842652
Cool story bro. But being a hippie wannabe bum is even worse. Maybe the lowest form of life.

>>3842652
donete monies from your trust fund pl0x

>>3842654
notice how you're passive aggressive and the anon above you is just stating his neutral views.

>being butthurt is a sign of denial or realization that someone is right

Would a geologist's salary compare well against a Comp Sci graduate? I like Geology better, but Comp Sci is ok and I want to know which will pay better

In order
Biochem
Math
Engineering
Biochem
Astronomy

>>3842632

Agree that this should be added.

>>3842436
Picture is retarded.
Usually people love the subjects they are good at, and/or are better at the subjects they love.
Also, if you're better at a subject, the subject in question should be easy for you.
Also, unless you have sucky parents, they sould tell you to base your choice on what doing what you love to do.
Moreover, if you're better at a subject, you expect to make more money then your peers.
>mfw I should fill in the same subject 5 times.

Law School with a degree in Geology yay or nay?

>Genetics/Astrophysics
>Genetics?
>Engineering
>Sociology
>Whatever I wanted to do

1. economy
2. economy
3. economy
4. playing the stock market
5. go and find job

is there anything shittier than shit tier?

>>3842710
>Phsyics

>>3842736
Oh wow, didn't see that when I made it

>go to /sci/
>tier thread, philosophy thread and religion thread on first page
>abandon board

When I switched from Psychology to a science degree I hastily chose Biology. Why.... :*( Why the fuck didn't I stop and think about it.

I was so eager to be in a science program I didn't really give it too much thought. Consider things carefully, sci.

If I could do it all over I'd choose Physics. If I could do it all over, sci...

>>3842766
>putting physics in two different tiers

>>3842773

>Implying you can't be good at what you love.

Did you even look at OP's pic?

How does Geology compare to say Physics or pure Maths? In terms of career opportunities .

>>3842785
>physics and pure math
>having career options

>>3842766
>science degree
>biology

4/10, would rage again

Biology
Biology
Biology
Psychology
Whatever I want

degrees with a balance of fun and a near six-figure income - your thoughts

Which degrees attract the most beautiful girls?

>>3842889
PhD in niggerology

>>3842898
phd take like 9 years to complete - sucks, bro

>>3842904
you mean 9 years in prison

B-but.. I took all of them.

>>3842951
Your a cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything.
I bet your alpha as fuck.

>>3842508
And why do you do anything, rather than lieing down unmovingly? Mankind is motivated by emotion; we are motivated by wishing to make ourselves happy. Many ways lead there. Science is not inherently superior to some shitty hipster's music. This too is subjective.

>>3842954
And you'd be right. I also have a loveable girlfriend and a 8 inches penis.

>>3842436
What you love: beer, women, video games, 4chan in that order
What you're good at: arts, science, anything I set my mind to
What will make me money: whatever I like doing and pays well

>>3842909
lol'd

>>3842436

I think OP's list is great.

Simple minded /sci/entists don't really understand the importance of Philosophy and what it has done for the world. I know some places who will hire a philosophy major over a hard science major simply because of the fact that the Phil major probably is a more critical thinker. Wrestling with concepts, some frightening, is not the easiest..

But, Equations on Paper? Who the fuck is fighting you there? The pencil?

Seriously guys, show some respect. OP's image is accurate.

>>3842959
expose your degree now, so I can google it!

>>3842808

Try your hand at genetics, biochem, etc. Oh wait, you're just a faggot troll.

>>3842999
>implying memorization is science

>>3842999

Math is awesome and easy. Who doesn't have to memorize anything?

This guy.

>>3842636
>field of study
It's barely a study, it's just people talking about what they think.

>>3843012

This is true but it says so little.

When philosophers talk it is quite different from when regular people, non-philosophers, talk.

Philosophers can reach truths that your simple, worldly, minded self cannot fathom. Stick to your equations and paper, young one.

I'm just visiting this board.

>>3843018
>Philosophers can reach truths that your simple, worldly, minded self cannot fathom. Stick to your equations and paper, young one.
Not really, I've heard them talk, they like to take simple statements and facts and drag them out to make them sound deep and smart. Most of the great philosophers studied social sciences, such as psychology, sociology, etc, as they made philosophical statements based on their social research and findings.

Modern day philosophy majors look at the lives of these past great philosophers and then twist their words into their own little thinkings and then claim to be intelligent, like you're doing there.

>>3843005

You can't understand genetics, biochemistry, etc without an understanding of basic chemistry and, in some ways, math.

I urge you to go beyond your AP high school stuff and take a look at, at least, undergraduate level cell biology. There's not much memorization beyond learning some names and terminology.

>what you love
music
>what you're good at
computer science
>what you think will make you money
engineering
>what sounded easiest
computer science
>what your parents told you to take
computer science

I went for

>what you find the most interesting
physics

>>3843028
This is why I dropped philosophy in my final year of high school.
I like history, so reading about these philosophers is interesting. The class was a load of shit though, why do we need to over analyse what they said and try to make sense out of simple ideas.

>>3843028
What is Good? What is Evil?

Do you know? Probably not. You know who does? Us philosophers of course.

>>3843028
This guy sums it up pretty well, I took a philosophy class in college, the whole class was this:
Read these books about/by these philosophers
Come into class and talk about what you think about the book
Make sure to ask questions about things in the book

The whole experience I could have easily gotten off an internet forum.

>>3843049
Just in case you aren't trolling.

Everyone has their own interpretation of what is good and bad, and everyone has general guidelines set by laws.

inb4
>hurr durr philosophers set dem laws

Also, that's foolish to say that only philosophers can know something so subjective.

GOD TIER
Math
Physics

TOP TIER
Engineering

MID TIER
Chemistry, geology, astronomy, finance

LOW TIER
Liberal arts, law, business administration, psychology

SHIT TIER
Biology

>>3842788

Physics will soon be hitting a brick wall in my humble opinion. It seems the limit of the homo sapien brain has been exhausted. End of black gold, will bring an end to mankind.
inb4
space age faggotry, and alternate energy

>what you love
physics
>what you're good at
physics, maths to some degree, design
>what you think will get you money
engineering/design
>what sounds easiest
of what i've mentioned, easily design
>what your parents tell me to do
engineering/design


yeah, still in high school, can't decide what to do. want to take physics since i've loved it since i was a kid, but parents keep saying i'm unlikely to have a successful career there (i.e., only the best of the best make it). engineering/design is fun, and i know i'd enjoy it, but i don't want to regret not taking my real passion instead.

tl;dr: love physics, get money with engineering/design and like it too, what do guys.

>>3843062
God tier: Physics, math, astronomy
High tier: Engineering, some vocational stuff
Mid tier: Business, finance, statistics
Low tier: Joining the Navy to become nuclear operator
Shit tier: Well, they kind of told me to do what I wouldn't hate waking up to everyday

>>3843069
also, love astronomy too.

>>3843069
Major in engineering, study physics on your own time. Or minor in physics if you really insist.

>>3843049
Both good and evil are infinite quantifiables. Thus you would need infinite intelligence to understand it.

>>3843069
Forget physics. Einstein's theory of relativity will get disproved in a decade or two. I never bought the idea that nature would put limits like that.
Secondly CERN failed to detect the higgs boson, which means our understanding of stuff at the atomic level is all wrong.
I say go into business. Make millions, and fuck babes.

Don't start with the usual dissing on philosophy, just because it's a meme, like >biology >hard sc.
And yes I understand the irony of shit tier, but there are better things.

>>3843077
Well, it depends on what he loves about physics.

Engineering and physics is a lot different, and physics as a hobby will be a lot different than physics as a job. Engineering will be a lot more applications dependent on the field. For example, my former classmate went into heat transfer, and he pretty much works exclusively for auto companies as an engineer.

>>3843058

Good - Evil? Subjective? Good and Evil are both products of a culture and social mores. The truest good and the truest evil are the products of the most successful culture to exist. What culture is that, one might ask.

If you understand the different behaviors from all cultures that benefit each culture in a specific aspect (such as longevity or infant mortality) then we can begin to build the perfect culture as a mix of those things. The truest good and the truest evil would manifest themselves in this culture.

>>3843077
>study physics in your own time
Yeah, that's what everyone keeps saying. But I'd really like to take it seriously; a career out of it (or astronomy, or both really) is a dream job. It's not just something I'm interested in; it's something I actually aspire to study in depth and further human knowledge in.

Yeah, so I have romantic notions of my future, whatever.

>>3843088
So it would be subject to which culture/community, when he said "everyone" he could have very well have meant separate societies/cultures.

>Good and Evil are both products of a culture and social mores.
That means it's subjective to whichever culture it's being judged on.

>>3843083
>Infinite quantifables
Just stop

>>3843087
The theoretical and most recent stuff is what interests me most. Specifically, quantum physics, rather than the type of physics that engineering works with.

>>3843085
here I made a picture for you, bro!

>>3843099
Well, quantum physics is basically math, I'd major in math for your undergrad.

>>3843106
Ah, okay. Cheers.

>>3843099
Holy Asus! Engineering works with all kinds of physics. You just need to find which area uses the physics you like. Like EE is very very close to fundamental physics. Obviously not programming though.

All kinds of engineering proposals and feasibility assessments for future works need to take into account the more theoretical part of physics as well especially if you are dealing with EE.

>what you love
Math
>what you're good at
physics, maths, Economics
>what you think will get you money
Economics
>what sounds easiest
psychology/sociology e.i any of the humanities/social sciences/ arts
>what your parents tell me to do
Medicine.

The question is full of bias.

If you love something that means you're best at it already since you practice it every breathing moment, hence you love it.

No way in knowing what will make more money outside of your subject area. I have no clue how cancer cells work, while someone who does can make tons of cash in bioengineering. My estimate at what will make more money is therefor, pure shit.

Nevertheless,

Machine Learning
Software Engineering
Machine Learning
Computer Science
Finance

Get money
Fuck bitches
Smoke trees,
Nigga

I will get my son to study porn and become a porn producer. True story, I only wish happiness for him

I really want to go into Astronomy.

>>3843324
What do you mean by 'Anything I want'?

>>3843331
The question asked what my parents told me to be.
And honestly they just want me to be happy. Thanks to them, I am.

Physics
Mathematics/Computer Science
Law
Restaurant Server
Neuroscience

God tier: architecture.

Shit tier: anything else.

The question is which degree program will you find most attractive girls participating in

>>3843501

Enjoy your creative writing degree.

>>3843523
Enjoy your no job

>>3843558

That was um, the point of the post.

that feel when EE is 99% asian males and I'm so ronery


How do I into girls /sci/? I don't like going outside and I wouldn't know where to go anyway.

>>3843588
>asian males

some of them are almost girls isnt that good enough? It is engineering after all.

Director
Math+Physics
Financial Math
Philosophy
whatever the fuck I want

>>3843588
but you'll make good moneyz amirite

>>3843595
Film director,
Engineering company director,
carwash director?

what kind of director are you talking about, mate

>>3843604

Film director obviously. It's just very hard to find sufficient practice while still studying an entirely unrelated topic.

>>3843595
I'm just genuinely interested in your Top tier pick, because I don't like maths, but enjoy Geophysics.

I want a different perspective

>>3843632

Doing math and physics ( I'm studying the latter right now), it keeps me genuinely interested, but it's lacking something that leaves me unsatisfied, turning into boredom after a while.

Film making, or any form of constructive art, can be enormously exhausting and frustrating work, but nothing beats the feeling of being part in (or even leading/managing) the process of creating whole new worlds for others to explore.

>>3843669
Wisdom.

>>3842436

Studying 2nd year Physics here, but unlike most people on this board, I'm not at all elitist about my degree.
I realise all I do is baby math, and the hardest part about physics is understanding the wording of the question, but I also understand the value of physics- among other subjects (science or non)- in modern society.
Except sociology or sport science. Anyone majoring in those can go die.

Any Australians on the board to advice on immigration with a non critical-skills degree?

For me-

God tier: Physics
High tier: Humanities
Mid tier: Engineering
Low tier: Film studies
Shit tier: "Whatever you want"

Low Tier here, did E&M, shoulda done PPE.

>>3842436

Making fun of illogical people, like socialists.
The same.
Predictions.
English, History, Sociology, Psychology, Math, Biology, Philosophy.
Engineering.

What about NotSureIfRetardedOrBrilliant tier?
I picked the one that had a cool name.

God Tier: Astrophysics
High Tier: Mathematics
Mid Tier: Mathematics
Low Tier: Economics
Shit Tier: Literature

>>3843955

Economics and given the new findings, Physics.

According to OP's scale I am doing high tier or God tier, but it actually resulted in a shit choice (philosophy).

God tier to me would be a degree you researched for it's future prospects. What you love can be a hobby, a degree should be an investment.

Chemistry
Biology
Engineering
Math
Whatever makes you happy(God tier parents)

Physics
Math
Chemistry
Business
Go to College

Mathematics
Philosophy
Engineering or something financial, maybe accounting
Sociology
They didn't (wish they had pressured me into a better degree than philosophy, they were "do whatever you like" parents)

Subject ranking

God Tier: Computer Science, mathematics, physics, engineering, chemistry, business/economics

Everything else tier: Everything else

>>3844015
Isn't geology and geophysics god tier as well.

>nothing, sometimes chemistry
>whatever's easy
>medicine
>biology
>whatever makes you happy son

No guidance whatsoever. I'm coming med school, whether you like it or not.

>>3844165
Funny thing is we don't know what makes us happy at this age

>mfw all the top 3 is the degree i chose

All of the above.

>Love: Astrophysics
>Good at: physics
>Most money: MBA
>Easiest: Economics
>Parents preference: Medical shit

Maths $300 000 starting

1. Everything, Nothing
2. Critical Thinking, Analyzing, Communicating
3. Medicine, then invest your first earned million in stocks or business (preferably latter)
4. Humanities and Arts (but if you put a lot of effort into it like 8-12 hours a day practising your art can be extremely difficult and later on - rewarding)
5. 'Do what you want/like' (yea, fuck you very much mom and dad)
5.

>marijuana cultivation, distribution and consumption
>languages/math
>math/econ
>philosophy
>law school

bumping for the thread to survive til mornin

bump

>>3842785
Here
>>3842788
What is the anon, saying? his implying convoluted and confusing

>>3847444
Are you meaning to say that you don't enjoy the thought of being filthy, filthy rich and doing a Financial Economics degree?

>>3847444
Good Sir, you also got trips - was it an accident

>>3842632
No one is going to take literal advice from something they read on the internet, but this thread provides food for thought. That's why I'm here anyway

I would like to know what you guys intend to do with a 4 year math of physics degree.

And don't tell me 'more school' because then the degree you get is irrelevant.

>>3847697
Smoke weed and fuck bitches.

>>3842436
Sick nerd baller tier:Physics
God tier:Med/dent/vet, Maths, law.
Fuck currency acquire knowledge tier: Pure bio/chem/physics.
High tier: Engineering, life sciences, compsci.
Low tier: English, Psychology, history.
Why the fuck are you in university tier: Art, music.

>>3847697
>I would like to know what you guys intend to do with a 4 year math of physics degree.

And don't tell me 'more school' because then the degree you get is irrelevant.

>more school
>degree becomes irrelevant

Nigger, what? Is it me or posters are getting even more retarded with the summer over

I'm a fantastic writer, which is why it'd be both High Tier and Low Tier for me, since it's a course that I'd breeze through.

My father was a movie producer, book writer, and photographer who never took a single math course past middle school since he was such a fantastic writer. (He graduated from college in the mid 1960s from Marlboro). Mother went to Michigan state and became a geologist but was never great at math. Both of them contended that since I was able to succeed in high school calculus (let alone high school algebra) that I was "the smartest person in the family" and because of that, they didn't tell me what they would have liked to see me major in, in college. Either they figured I was smart enough to know exactly what I wanted to do because of my grades, or maybe it was just that they didn't want to make me lean towards anything because they had applied the same "We're not going to tell you what to believe" philosophy when it came to everything else that was a part of growing up within the family, such as personal values and religious belief.

Chemical Engineering is fucking fantastic, though, and I salute anyone who is also undertaking the course.

Generally speaking, with respect to the United States collegiate system:
PhD level assumed for all subjects.


"God Tier" :
-Physics
-Pure Mathematics
-Nano-Science and/or Technology
-Theoretical Computer Science, artificial
intelligence, and advanced software designing
-Neuroscience
-Astrophysics/Astronomy/Cosmology


Great:

-Electrical Engineering
-Computer Programming
-General Applied Science and/or Technology
-Mathematics (General/Applied)
-Chemical Engineering
-Chemistry
-Mechanical Engineering
-Computater Engineering
-BioEnginering
-Aeronautics
-Medicine / Medical Technology
-Nuclear Engineering


Almost Great:

-BioChemistry
-Bioengineering
-Cognitive Science


Good:

-History
-Anthropology
-Biology (molecular, cell, plant)
-Biophysics
-Earth/Planetary Science

Fair:

-Civil Engineering
-Enviro Science
-Any top 5 most spoken foriegn language
-philosophy (I'd say good at its best, though)

Poor:

-Education
-English/Linguistics
-Law
-Economics
-Business
-Anything to do with finance
-political science

>>3847727
Confirmed for asperger's.

>>3847731

If you'd like to discuss my list, that would be great. Mindless labeling is a waste of everyone's time.

>>3847731
>hurr

This is /sci/. Expect an analytic evaluation. If you don't like it go to /soc/ and circlejerk with all the other normalfags.

>>3847734
>Mindless labeling is a waste of everyone's time.

If you actually thought this way and weren't just trying to troll, you would have provided a summary for every college you wrote on that list.

You also sound like you're sixteen.

>>3847734
considering mathematical finance is a fairly difficult and advanced field.. I might append something to the finance section.

>>3847738
No, believe it or not, most of /sci/ are normal people who can write essays just fine. Not everyone's as shut in as you, bro.

>>3847731

And let me assure you that I'm far more "left-brained" than you think.

My favorite classes in high school were always English.

On second thought, I did make a mistake with English. I'd raise that up to good.

>>3847740

Well you're just getting worried over semantics.

Mathematical finance you say?

The mathematics behind the finance has nothing to do with finance as a concept in and of itself.

Finance is a way for consumers to indulge in mindless sensations and material possessions.

Never confuse a puppet with its strings.

>>3847739

Providing a summary for each college? I never detailed any colleges; I told you my list was generalizing to start with.

Besides, what would be the point of doing that when everyone here's free to go to any college's website they wish, or google phd program ranking systems and reviews?

It's always a stupid idea to take one person's word as answer to a question which requires multiple sources of inter-validating information.
Just pay attention to everything you read, and we won't have to argue.

>>3847744

more right brained..I meant to say. geesh. sorry :*

>>3847750
Ok, so WHAT is finance then? Because currently it doesn't seem that you understand.

>>3847760

Finance? It's just anything that has to do with money, or the concept of intermediary (actually nowadays rather tertiary) exchange of theoretic elements each constituting some type of value to either certain groups, institutions, or (generally) the entire international monetary systems.

Generally speaking, the global financial system consists of several important banks, investment groups, lending agencies, futures/stock/forex traders, traders of all kinds, and organizations such as the IMF, world bank, etc.

All the patterns and principles behind the actual set of events involved with trading certain stocks, predicting which economics/currencies will do well, finding good ideas / marketing plans, can be modeled with mathematics, simply because mathematics is the natural language of all natural systems.

You think atoms are cool, don't you?
But I bet you wouldn't like going near dog shit. But dog shit's made of atoms?

The problem is you need to acknowledge the difference between the beauty of abstract, generally sustained principles and specific, mindless areas of application.

As much as I love mature people and hanging out couple of times a week, and club or similar non-sense that let's me go crazy and get in touch with the primal side of my being - the rest of the time I am driven by logic (which in a way is driven by the production of dopamine in the brain, which can be considered emotional). I used to be great in arts classes and was the at the top of my english class and in fact all my actuary sciences had taken the back seat.

after graduating High-school I left home for London and started exploring the world and the internet (4chan being one of the best finds as ironic it may be).

Now even though I used to love Humanities and Arts I see myself as benefiting the Civilization a lot more by becoming a Scientist. I can remain extremely creative and intuitive when I study logical sciences , thus making use of my whole brain potential and not only advancing my intellect (which is a great motivator), but providing ways for life to push towards the Exodus and finally moving into a space-age. I'm not religious , but I believe this is the destiny of Mankind and it drives me through all the pain of learning science as a previously humanitarian student. As someone has said once - 'Pain is temporary - Glory is eternal'.

there is no money to be made in protecting the enviroment.

However I am earning shitloads of cash in agriculture

;_;

>>3847727

>mfw I am probably getting a degree from your god tier list

>>3847779

> I can remain extremely creative and intuitive when I study logical sciences

You can't remain creative and intuitive unless you study logical sciences?

What do you mean by "logical" sciences?

I assume your intuition was meaning to gear towards using the word "quantitative" instead. All fields of science follow a general process of logic, in some sense. But logic hardly encapsulates the scope of what it means to do science, and understand the process.

If you want to do science, then do it.

Don't waste anyone's time talking about how creative you'll be while you do it, or how much it'll benefit society.

It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that you're trying to make a cradle for yourself out the all the words you say.

>>3847805

Your list is a lot more organized than mine. Engineering obviously is a different sphere of itself.

But I'd move software up a bunch. Software is essentially the nervous system of the computer age, and corresponds to the guiding principles of advanced systems in our era.

Bump petroleum engineering down a couple pegs (they're just monkeys drilling for oil; not actually doing anything involved with the future).

Move economics down at least...

>>3847798
By intuitive I mean inter-personal intuition, empathy. I notice a lot of my previous classmates really into actuary sciences to be Non-confident and uncreative, possibly autismal. We made fun of those guys back in school and from an evolutionary, societal stand-point I can see why.

Regardless, having found a passion for science and all the possibilities to express my Creativity through it, I am not looking back.

A person has to mature, especially a guy , who really starts thinking maturely at age 21 or so. Me, I was a silly kid who wanted to do a 'cool' degree and took up Art before spending more time and realizing that the things that really captured my imagination were Science related.

>>3847794

>>3847814

I see. Which field of science are you interested in?

Where does, "what sounds the most challenging," fall?

>>3847805
>Geology not top-tier
I am busting my ass so the civilization has the resources to advance - show some appreciation. Yes it's intellectually just as challenging as learning Chemistry for example - and especially stressful when you have to manage a whole frigging camp of people who are only there to work as little as possible while getting as much money as possible.

Show a little appreciation

>>3847824

I think the consensus seems to point towards physics/engineering/pure math to be the most inaccessible subjects for most people.

>>3847824
Depends on the person; some like it hard, so I'd put it between Mid and Low.

>>3847825

Relax man we're all learning here. :3

I appreciate geologists.

>>3847805
What the hell are 'Creative Careers'? Also I don't se pharmacy/pharmacology

>>3847813
I didn't make that list. Got it from here some time ago. Got to agree with you though.

>>3847727

>>3847829
If it ain't hard, it ain't worth doing.

>>3847844

You do realize that agriculture is and always will be vital to the human species, right?

Math should be ahead of comp sci, seeing as how computer science is nothing more than a single branch of mathematics, coupled with applied physics/electrical engineering principles on a nano-scale. (Really, that's all it is).

>>3847851

And nano-science will be a field of the future.

Soon enough, computers will get down to trying to store electromagnetic data on several atom systems.

Soon enough we'll get down to the quantum level.

Thus nano-science is the key to the future.

>mommy, why is the tripfag talking to himself
>don't look at him keep walking

>>3847857

Hey..I was just adding onto my earlier point, and you know it.

Sorry if I'm not wanted on this board.

You guys have to admit you are all involved in false advertising..."science & math" my ass..

>>3847855

That is exactly what I have been telling myself since I first read about it. It is a really interesting field, but can be very hard to learn for some people (me for example).

btw if you guys want to see the government's published information about employment groups / salaries check this out:

http://www.bls.gov/oes/2010/may/chartbook_2010.pdf

Guess I'll go read some of the most recent physics doctoral papers that have come out over the past couple weeks.

God I'm lonely.

Im in a mid to shit tier

Im doing building surveying which i cant make £60,000 a year when I'm done but my dad made me do it tbh...

God Tier: Enginering
High TIer: Pure Mathematics/ Theoretical Physics
Mid Tier: Engineering
Low Tier: Literature
Shit-Tier: Anything I care about

>>3847870
>roneriness
the sacrifies for science. It's worth it.

Also 45 minutes per day at gym = /fit/ , socially acceptable body , thus better social standing and womenz. Will never need to feel, lonely again, Vort.

>>3847880

You do know that the laws of physics can model every principle of engineering, don't you? Even the most "esoteric" or complex ones.

Physics does all this, and MORE.

Now I don't know what universe you live in, but in my universe we define physics as the study of that universe.

Everything else is detail.

Now, I'll leave.

>>3847881

Nothing's wrong with my social skills. I don't engage friends, and am not good at maintaining contact with them. It's a classic trait of introversion. Nothing to write home about; something I'll probably grow out of when I go to college.

>>3847881
I know a Comp Sci student at Duhram , who's got a an athletic body, works and afforded a ricer. He's indian so he's compensating, but whatever.

>>3847885
Word of warning though - by becoming more extroverted you'll lose some interest in Science.

>>3847889

Agreed. I'm really introverted but when I went to uni i met lots of people that always wanted to hang out.

It's a shame though, the first week I had to hang out with everyone and party with everyone (not that it wasn't fun) but my homework and schoolwork piled up.

I didn't like that. I was happy just being in my room studying and figuring math problems out.

People stopped texting and wanting to hang out, i feel bad, but I have to do what i need to do to get by.

>>3847851
>You do realize that agriculture is and always will be vital to the human species, right?
>>3847883
>You do know that the laws of physics can model every principle of engineering, don't you? Even the most "esoteric" or complex ones.
>You do realize
>You do know
Full himself autistic detected.

>>3847889

I'm far beyond the point where I worry about losing my interest in science, don't you worry sir :)

>>3847897

It's just that you were so wrong I had to overcompensate my coating my response with industrial grade condescension.

Sorry :P
Worth it if it means you'll remember your mistake.

>>3847883
Tiers were defined as per definition of OP...learn to read.

>>3847718
Sorry, I was away. To answer your question, a 4 year degree is irrelevant because any graduate degree you get will lead you to a high paying job. Therefore do what you love for your 4 year degree.

For instance, I could get an undergraduate degree in women's studies for god's fucking sake then get a law degree. Or get an undergraduate in Zoology and get a gradaute degree in business.

The undergraduate degree is IRRELEVANT to earning a living. Do what you love and forget the bullshit over what undergraduate degree is better than another.

50 years ago it mattered that you got an undergraduate degree, today it is WORTHLESS.

>>3847833 Here.
Define what the 'creative careers' are

>>3847911

You're right, but understand that some people don't plan on attending grad school, even though they should.

>>3847916
Sadly true.

>>3847911
This makes sense. It's exactly what my father is telling me. But I hate the fuck, so thanks anon for confirming the general wisdom.

>>3847805
Can people confirm this for Bro-tier list?

God: Chemistry
High: Chemistry
Mid: Commerce?
Low: Liberal *fuck off* arts
Shit: "Make us proud son. Never forget who you are"

Srs. If you're good at illustrating you can make bank. Brb making £30 an our doing something I love at home.

>>3847972
derp indeed

>mfw I'm fucked

>God
Physics
>High
Computer science
>Mid
Mathematics
>Low
Philosophy
>Shit
Nothing

>>3847960
Mid tier: Economics of Finance

>What you love
Computer Science

>What you're good at
Physics

>What you think will make you money
Engineering and Computer Science

>What sounded easiest
Engineering

>What your parents told you to take
Computer Science

>>3847916
This. Definitely this. However most of these people are also the same ones who went overboard with partying and did not achieve outstanding grades.

Such is life among the disappointing youth of this country

1. Geology
2. Any Academic study
3. MBA
4. Arts
5. derp do whatever you wish, son

First year Geology student reporting

What you love: History and Theatre
What you're good at: Most things
What you think will make you money: Engineering?
What sounded easiest: Faggoteering
What your parents told you to take: college

I win... except the money thing. Damn it feels good to be a jack of all trades

What I love: Astronomy, Geology, Biology
What I'm good at: Most academic things (doesn't mean I know a lot about everything, just means that I can learn most academic things quickly and accurately).
What I think will make me money: Computer Sciences/Engineering
What sounds easiest: The Arts
Parents told me to take: Whatever the hell I wanted

>What you love
Genetics
>What you're good at
Biology
>What you think will make you money
Chem E,Pharmacology
>What sounded easiest
Becoming a pharmacist
>What your parents told you to take
Become an engineer or doctor

God tier : Math
High tier: Physics
Mid Tier: Finance
Low tier: Physical therapy
Shit tier: engineering

>what you love
Astronomy, physics

>what you're good at
computer science

>what you think will make you money
software engineering

>what sounded easiest
english

>what your parents told you to take
literature

But my parents told me to study what I love

>God tier
Computer Science
>High tier
Biology
>Mid tier
Petroleum engineer
>What sounded easiest
Physics
>What your parents told you to take
Medicine

English major here

Haters gonna hate

>what you love
architecture
>what you're good at
biochemistry.
>what will make the money
dentistry / medicine
>what sounded easiest
architecture
>what your parents told you to take
medicine

the funny thing is, i'm somehow decided to getting my BS in biomed. eng., none of the above, lul.

thinking about moving from physics to earthscience because the mathematical part of physics is too difficult for me, any thoughts?

i particularly like stuff like earth science because i love to travel. combining work and travel seems awesome, or do you know of other fields that get to see a lot of neat stuff?

>what you love
Physics, Philosophy
>what you're good at
Physics
>what you think will make you money
Engineering
>what sounded easiest
History
>what your parents told you to take
n/a

>what I took
Engineering and physics

All dat money. All dat knowledge.

captcha:
>argent business
Holy shit. Argent is money in french.

>What you love
Mathematics
>What you're good at
Computer science
>What you think will make you money
Computer science
>What sounded easiest
Computer Science
>What your parents told you to take
Computer science

Damn computers...

>>3849782
>going to university even though you know you will end up flipping burgers

I never undestood you people

>>3849872
>Business/Economics
>money
Pick one.

>>3849891
Not sure if troll or not.
In my opinion, or from my experiences it is.

My father majored in Business. We own four houses, and two condominiums. Both condo's worth over a million, and the houses over 800k each, except one which is at about 400k. That's just my dad. Our entire family, both sides of parents, are filthy fucking rich.

u mad poorfag?

>ITT: Physicists not realizing their field is applied math, so naturally -- math ≥ physics

GOD:
Applied math

HIGH:
Physics

MID:
Engineering

LOW:
German

SHIT:
Plumbing/Electrician

>>3849912
>implying that physics concepts are easy to understand and don't require time in instruction or study to understand

>>3849922

>Implying you have any idea of what the word 'implication' means.

>What you love
Computer engineering
>What you're good at
Computer engineering
>What you think will make you money
Computer engineering
>What sounded easiest
some kind of liberal arts degree i guess, but i would have killed myself after like 2 semesters
>What your parents told you to take
they are clueless

>Game Coding
>Physics
>Software Design
>Poli-Sci
>Medical

> What you love
Physics
> What you're good at
Computer Science
> What you think will make you money
Economics
> What sounded easiest
Sociology
> What your parents told you to take
Whatever I love

Took Physics with Computer Science. Bonus points because I can now legitimately say I'm a "Master of Physics" MWAHAHAHAHA!

>>3850006
How did you get funding for your masters lol

What I love: physics
What I'm good at: physics
What I think will make me money: computer science
What sounded easiest: business
What my parents told me to take: nothing, I have cool parents

My major: physics (I'm picking up computer science on the side)

Did I win?

>love
Psychology
>good at
English
>Money
Materials science / chemical engineering
>easiest
English, philosophy, sociology, psychology - all the humanities really
>shit tier
Told me to go pre med

I'm a premed 3rd year neuroscience major with a minor in biochemistry and mathmatics.

I really suck at revolution about the x-axis problems. Y-axis ones are fairly simple but I ended up getting this one completely wrong because I could not determine the "height" of the object. If there's someone able to describe to me the proper way to obtain this, I would really appreciate it!

Here's the problem,
> Consider the graph of the function f(x) = (2/3)(x-2)^(3/2) over the interval [2, 6]. Find:
> a) The area of the region bounded by f(x), y=0, and x = 6.
> b) The length of the curve.
> c) the volume of the figure formed by rotation about the x-axis.
> d) The complete surface area of the function.

>>3850320

How about you think a bit?