/sci/ - Science & Math

shouldn't have majored in something other than engineering

>>3804533
HARHARHARHAR ENJUNEERZ

You probably wouldn't succeed as a lawyer. Also, there are literally hundreds of thousands of unemployed lawyers right now. The economy just doesn't need them.

lol whoooaaa buddy....

if you're going into forensic anything, you'll most likely want to go for straight up law school and specialize either during or after law school.

your other option is consultant work. in that case, you don't necessarily need because your knowledge is what lawyers will use in their cases...

lastly, if you really want to go into law, and such a specific field, you'll most likely have to target certain law firms in order to become that type of lawyer. much less, a background in science (although useful for keeping you up to speed with what your cases would be about) would only get you so far. the processes of just being a lawyer far exceeds your extracurricular knowledge.

>biology major
>thinks he is a big shot scientist

ISHYGDDT

>>3804540
That's because most law schools are thinly veiled diploma mills I don't intend on attending, and most malpractice attorneys (plaintiff and defense) are severely undereducated in any kind of medicine/science

Don't just assume I haven't thought this through

My father works as a defense attorney for insurance companies defending against workman's comp claims (when someone gets injured on the job). Makes pretty good money, but you don't need to know shit about medical science. They hire doctors to advise them. The lawyers just need to know the law. Having a pre-med background doesn't help at all.

>>3804547
I was thinking the same thing.

Sage for biology major thread.

>>3804547
>says I claim to be a scientist, let alone a big shot
>whiney, reactionary, basement dwelling troll who can't read

ISHYGDDT

>>3804546
>implying that you can specialize in law school

It is against the rules of the bar association for law school to give you a specialized education, or for anyone to advertise that they specialize in a particular field of law.

I aced my LSAT, but left law school after one semester.

All my classmates were idiots who just wanted to argue emotionally all the time. Also, I found out quickly that the way to generate billable hours is to keep conflicts going; resolving them stops the money coming in.

If you love conflict, then you will do well in the field. Most of your competition is stupid.

But if you care about any of the values you went into science, then you will never last there.

>implying competition is a bad thing
it looks like your gonna have to work hard like they do or take a creative initiative

You don't have to be at the top of your class to make bank in medicine...

>Cut out the ching-chong and dothead competition

Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. There aren't many Asians at all in biology graduate programs.

Asians are in engineering and physical sciences, not life "sciences."

>>3804579
Good to know. What did you do after leaving law school?
>>3804582
Can't speak for education, and I know you have to take all kinds of classes in law school, but like... every goddamn lawyer advertizes their specialties.

>>3804597
No, the advertise that they practice a particular kind of law, not that it is the only kind of law they practice. I know that is distinction only lawyers would think of, but we are dealing with lawyers.

>not majoring in business
>2011

it's a fucking party major that does not get outsourced. how can /sci/ be so dumb?

>>3805320
>business
>not outsourced
>2011
Haha wow.

>>3804596
That's highly expected.

How could an asian know what "life" is?

>>3805332
ICWATUDIDTHAR

ITT: The way America does incentives for science is far worse than even all the other shitty countries.

No trolls, only sad.

>>3805366
No kidding, the only way to even halfway justify the amount of work it takes to break into any scientific field is to win a fucking nobel prize and honestly that probably wouldn't even make up the loss of salary when you decide not to apply that kind of intelligence and dedication to something corrupt and backwards like law or business or finance

>>3804564
Same, except my uncle.

Seriously OP, you think your employment prospects are better in *law* than being a scientist for pharma? The phamaceutical industry (or a university, or a research lab) will give you a shitty, tedious job that you will never get enough appreciation for. But it *will* give you a job. Law jobs are very fucking hard to get now, even with great grades and top schools.
And pharma companies are increasingly shifting their studies overseas, because it's cheaper and because people in Calcutta or Goma don't sue if you accidentally poison them. They're probably going to need *fewer* lawyers in the future, not more.

>>3805754
Fair enough. I was actually kinda originally planning on getting my PhD and going to law school if shit doesn't pan out.

Plus then I get to tell people I'm a scientist.

If you don't get in to a top-20 law school, don't bother going.

The economy has really widened the gap between the top law schools and the rest. A diploma from a well-ranked school will grant you a six figure starting salary and almost unlimited career opportunities. A diploma from a lesser school will not.

>>3805792
This. A thousand times this.

There are a few exceptions, but if you're not going to one of the top twenty schools, you run a risk of ending up deep in debt with few employment prospects.

Law isn't like business, where one MBA is much like another. It's a very prestige oriented industry, and where you went to school matters, even well into your career.

>>3805792
This is only if you want to practice.

My sister went to a niche school with a good regulatory law program. Now she's happily employed doing audits at a university hospital.

I can promise you that no one has ever heard of her school.

Doesn't America already have enough fucking lawyers?

We need less of them....and businessmen

>>3805876
We need less people in general.

>>3804510
>2011
>thinking law is a path to money and not debt and a lifetime of shit work for 90% of law school grads

Op, go for whatever you want to. Don't listen to the jello trolls who say biology isnt a major. Most of them can't even do it.

Lawyers are always in demand. Most of the time you wont get to go in a court room like Law & Order, but you will still get paid and deal with peoples law troubles.

Might I recommend creating a virus with your biology knowledge? You will get many cases coming your way $$$$

>>3805775
Get your PhD. Advance knowledge. Kick ass.

>>3805918
Man, you really don't know what you're talking about.

>>3805918
>Might I recommend creating a virus with your biology knowledge? You will get many cases coming your way $$$$
You do realize that you tend to *lose* money when people sue you, right?

>>3804510
In the same boat. I have roughly a 3.2 GPA in Computer Engineering(3.5 lower, 3.0 upper division[2 Fs due to GI disease]) but an LSAT score good enough for Ivy League. Realistically, I can probably get into a T20 school and go into IP law. Even with a perfect math GRE score, I am probably going to struggle to make it into the biomedical Engineering department at my school. With a PhD I would be lucky to make 6 figures starting, but with a degree in IP law, 160k is the median starting salary.

I would humbly suggest that the value proposition you intend to offer the employment market might yield the greatest pecuniary returns in the field of patent law. Your writing style, however, might indicate that your personality is less than ideally suited for such droll employ.

OP be a life science math double major and your university will be doing everything to make you happy.

>>3805320
you are totally right.

Science/technical jobs often require very skilled labor, but the internet allows talented people in india, china, brazil, etc to do the work even if the parent company is headquartered in the US.

The business majors are the people calling the shots to offshore talent so they'll keep their reasonably well paying jobs and send the "science" jobs overseas, and the cost savings they bring the company will help justify their existence.