/sci/ - Science & Math

They're white supremacists BECAUSE they're retarded.

Because people who aren't worthless don't need to cling to their race as something to be proud of.

>comparing human race to dog breeds

Where are all the biologists in here?

>>3801163
>OP is the cancer
>These dubs are the answer

>>3801204
>biologists

uh, dude, this is a science board.

>>3801204

Sup. Put bluntly, and simplified alot, yes, humans are alot like different breeds of dogs. You get interesting mixes between dogs, because even if extremely different, they are still the same species. Same goes for humans, but to an arguably much, much lesser extent. Unfortunately, in today's society if you even IMPLY that, Kenyans have some NATURAL inclination to having amazing cardio as opposed to another "race" of humans, or god forbid that according to the evidence of studies, white males of the same economic status and upbringing preform better on standardized tests then their black counterparts, you're a crackpot and a racist biggot.

>>3801204
Hahahahaha. Biologists on /sci/?
Anyway this guy raises an alright observation, but a shitty point. I mean mixing races results in hybrids, in the same way mixing dog breeds does. That is about where the similarities end. The extent of what is possible, and what can change, is completely incomparable. Also there is a difference between observing this, and using this observation to back up some misguided sense of superiority. Seems to me like it's just a pseudo-intellectual racist doing what they do best: being an ignorant piece of shit.

Also I don't think what I've said is necessarily sound, so if anyone could correct me/make a better comparison I'd be grateful.

>>3801235
>much, much lesser extent

That's true, and is in itself enough to make the analogy a failure. But it's not just a matter of degree, since human populations are also not isolated the way dog breeds are. That and there is no clear dividing line. There is human genetic diversity, obviously, but it's more spectra than categories. There aren't really any clear dividing lines besides cultural conventions.

>>3801247

It's sound enough. I would go further to point out that in the world of genetics, you have a ludicrous ammount of genetic information, with an even more insane ammount of interaction between said genetic information. What switches one thing on, could switch a dozen other things off, which partially turn back on given that X gene is expressing Y hormone from Z response. Even in studies like the ones I refferenced earlier (Cant be bothered to actually find it), it's impossible to say if something is exactly genetic or not, whether it's an imprint from their life, or if it was predetermined, caused by some event, etc. Almost all trials are iffy at best.

>>3801274
Keep in mind examples like African Americans have particular genetic traits that could be considered superior to those of European descent. Selective breeding is a real thing among humans.

>>3801281
Cheers, just posted >>3801294
I was going to mention a bit about how blurry the lines are between human genetics and cultural influence, especially in comparison to dog breeding. But you just did a better job than I could have.

Because in our culture, people are raised with the idea that they are special.
And when they grow up and have few accomplishments of their own, they need something to rectify this cognitive dissonance, and either they do away with the thought that they are born special, or they do something much less mentally tasking and claim evidence of superiority by association.
I'm not saying there aren't mean differences between genetic clusters in human population.
But by the nature of the subject matter and taking into account the human condition, it's bound to attract individuals whose motives are unscientific, among the stupid and intellectuals.

>>3801307
While I agree that "racism" shouldn't be thrown around to defend any quantifiable differences between race due to innate biological differences, I've yet to see a credible source that confirms this. In fact, most show the opposite.

>>3801321
STOP BEING SO RACISS BLACK PPL ARE JUST AS GOOD AS YOU OR ME

>>3801328
sauce on this?

the ancient western world was shit compared to the modern world, or even the ancient/medieval near east, I don't know how it could possibly receive such a large fraction of accomplishments.

Nobody is flooding Africa with tens of millions of nonafricans, giving them special rights and privileges, turning black africans into minorities in their own schools and cities, and then when they object calling them retarded.

>>3801347
Also where do Asian countries sit on that? Surely they are misrepresented here.

>>3801163

There isn't a single person in the world without West African blood that has ran the 100m dash in less than 10 seconds.

Skin pigmentation is an evolutionary adaptation as is lactose tolerance.

Since human populations have been geographically isolated from each other long enough for these phenotypes to manifest, it's clear there is some genetic variability between races.

Who is to say that there aren't other evolutionary differences between human populations?

>implying Homo sapiens and Canis lupus doesn't have parallels.

Dogs and wolves have a shorter genetic distance between each other than Negroids and non-Negroids.
dog - wolf FST = .165 [1]
Negroid - non-Negroid FST = .2+ [2]

[1] doi:10.1016/j.mehy.2009.07.046
[2] doi:10.1101/gr.116301.110

Also renowned population geneticist Henry Harpending draws the same parallel between human races and dog breeds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ER7x9b0A0

Look at all these hateful, white privileged children.

>implying everyone who has any realistic viewpoint on race is batshit insane

Most "white supremacists" are idiots. Anyone who actually follows the research on race and intelligence would understand that whites aren't in fact the most intelligent race (if intelligence is your metric by which superiority is inferred). Northeast Asians (Chinese, Korean, Japanese) are in fact the most intelligent of the major races. An aside: Although Orientals score highest, certain subdivisions within various races are highly intelligent. For instance, the highest caste in India has an average IQ of about 120. The Episcopalians have an average IQ of about 118, and European Jews have an average of 115.

Anyway, drunken hillbillies and internet racists make rational racialists like myself and James Watson seem insane. Guilt by association.

(Inb4 hardcore liberals fling personal insults at me. I'm not even fully white. I'm half Arab.)

>>3801274
>There aren't really any clear dividing lines besides cultural conventions.

Principle component analysis disagree. There is quite a large F statistic of genetic distance gap between negroid and non-negroid populations which is painfully visible.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20643205

>>3801415

Ashkenazi jews have the highest IQs.

I'd be careful about extrapolating IQs of South and East Asians from the populations that are in Western Countries. By virtue of their being in the US, they have already shown enough resourcefulness and initiative than an average countryman.

>>3801415
I agree, I am full Indian and I leave in the hippiest place on earth; New Zealand. I find the sense of racial differences and senitivities a tad bit retarded, why the fuck cant white dudes say that they are doing better than some stinking Islander and get away with it without it being called racist? And why the fuck are Maoris allowed to get away with their stupid shenanigans. I say if your white be proud, I am brown and I am proud of that why the fuck cant white people be proud of who they are. Its fucked up.

>>3801415
I know that feel, bro. I even avoid the implication of race an intelligence entirely. I just focus on the gene polymorphisms difference between populations. I personally stand by it from a conservationist point of view: every genetically distinct population no matter how small of an FST distance deserves the right to exist in order to conserve human biodiversity. But because I also want to conserve white ethnicities, as well as every other, they call me a Nazi.

>>3801435
>Ashkenazi jews have the highest IQs.

No, they have one of the highest but not the highest. The Brahmin caste in India has the highest mean IQ in the world of 120 (although the average IQ of all Indians is around 81). Christian Episcopalian whites have an average IQ of 118. The Jewish Askhenazim has an average IQ of 115.

>I'd be careful about extrapolating IQs of South and East Asians from the populations that are in Western Countries. By virtue of their being in the US, they have already shown enough resourcefulness and initiative than an average countryman.

No, *native* Chinese have an average IQ of 105. Other related populations have similar mean IQs. South and Southeast Asians (Phillipinos, Laotians, Vietnamese, etc.) have an average IQ much lower than Northeast Asians--around 85. Consult the pic related chart.

he guise... what about hispanic people ?

>>3801463
Average IQ of 87-89

Why do we still classify ourselves by color?
Are we not all human?

>>3801474
>hispanic

>white

>black

>asian

Where the fuck do middle eastern people fit in?

>>3801479
Libertarianism but /sci/ doesn't like it.

>>3801482
see the chart I posted in:
>>3801448

"North African"

>>3801486
And Persians?

>>3801479
>implying race is just skin color

psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf

It's a bit scary to think that if I were at the opposite percentile of the bell curve I'd be considered mentally retarded.

Why are antiracists so retarded?

>>3801498

>>3801487
You can check the table in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

The author collected IQs from various nations. It is very controversial because it puts the mean sub-Saharan African IQ at around 70.

>>3801502
>>3801502

this thread summed up

>>3801498
what is F sub st?
it looks like you're neglecting to post something that goes along with that chart, I can't tell what it is about, maybe you can elaborate?

>>3801503
IQ is only very loosely, if at all, tied to achievement between ethnic groups.

pic related

it's antiracists

spam thread

>>3801507
F statistic, called a fixation index when dealing with genetic distance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_index

>>3801510
Wrong.

Over large statistical groups, IQ is a perfect indicator of likelihood of prison time, health, wealth, etc.

How does the Australian race fit into this?

>>3801518
many immigrants to the US from countries with relatively low IQs do far better than whites.

http://www.medical-hypotheses.com/article/S0306-9877%2809%2900537-4/abstract

>>3801448
That chart is bullshit. There is no way we have any measurement of the Capoid race. Fuck off. I agree with you in general, but don't use false images.

>>3801519
see the chart in:
>>3801448

Australian Aborigines (Australoids) have an average IQ of 62.

Asian Master Race reporting in. Race is not a social construct and I'm sick and tired of hearing Leftist Marxist Creationist say other wise just because it is in their bible. You have no facts, you are on the losing side of science just like global warming deniers.

List of greatest races to least greatest/subhuman barely human

1. Master Race East Asians
2. North East/Mongol
3. Aryan Persians
4. South East Asians
5. Arabs
6. Pig Skinned Pasty Caucasoid White People
7. Slavs
...
...
...
8,841. Ashkenazim Jews
8,842. Sephardic Jews
8,843. Native Americans/ Amerindians/ Mestizos/ Spics
8,844. Niggers
...
...
...
78,648,234,235. Aborigines

The Neanderthaler was had the same amount or even more brain than the Homo sapien sapien and much stronger physically.
They were superior but at a cost, for strong muscle and complex brain you need a lot of food.
And in an ice age it's hard to find, interbreeding with the sapien sapien, wars etc.

>>3801528
Slavs not above Arabs? I am disappoint.

>>3801528
finland is also Mongol masterrace?

>>3801528
Nice fantasy world. Jews are actually above all Asians.

>>3801498
Listen here you faggots. If there are discernible differences then it's not racism.

The question that OP posed was "why are WHITE SUPREMACISTS so retarded"

They DON'T base their opinion off statistics and scientific research. They base it off ignorance. If any of their claims are valid it's by pure luck.

Now quit your bitching and let's laugh at some retards.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001890263934&v=wall

>>3801536

Finland was raped by Mongols back in the day and now they are Asian.

>>3801540
The logic in this post is overwhelming.

>>3801333
No dog breed is smarter than another every dog has a different personality and intelligence.

everyone calm the fuck down

>>3801549
Those are some fantastic nipples.

My girlfriend has nice tits but her nipples are too small. I'd like to chew on those nubs.

>>3801549
report'd!

>>3801498

>>3801559
Fag.

>>3801544
>Asian masterrace
Explain the high suicide rates in the Asian countries and the slav countries that got raped by Mongols.

>>3801559
you may not agree with my use of tits, but i maintain they were used in the name of science.

>>3801563
enjoy your b&, too!

>>3801563
>>3801549

I'm crying right now.

I'll never fuck a girl that beautiful.

>>3801566

It's because the Asian Master Race aren't stupid enough to believe in imaginary friends like God. Unlike you Niggers and round eyed white faggots who follow Gods word at every step and don't believe in evolution/races being different (same thing) just because Jesus said so.

>>3801163
Race doesn't mean shit its all about culture, jews and asians have a culture of hard work and success.

>>3801575
What do you have against ta-ta's?

>>3801584
Christianity is the largest religion in Korea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Korea

>>3801584
>"Asian master race"
>mfw half of Asia (South Asia) has an IQ of 85

>>3801584
You just follow a guy named Mao Zedong and kill everything that wants to say something.

>>3801575
>Reporting boobs

>>3801602
>>3801613
Costanza mind

>>3801602
and they still make the money
Median Household Income: 2004.[29] Ethnicity (among east / southeast / south asians): Household Income:
Indians $88,538[30]
Filipinos $75,146[31]
Chinese $69,037[32]
Japanese $64,197[33]
Koreans $53,025[34]
Total US Population $44,684

>>3801613
>>3801602

>>3801622
How does that make them a unique/superior breed?

>>3801607

>he thinks happiness is even worth a shit

lol must be white

>>3801622
Big fucking deal. The few with high enough IQs migrate to the U.S. Doesn't change the fact that the South Asian average is 84 or 85.

>>3801622
And this proves once again, capitalism serves the minorities.
And affirmative action doesn't work.
Chinese people who never got the affirmative action blacks got are earning above the average American GDP.
Blacks who did get affirmative action...are in the shit.
The Jamaican blacks who didn't get affirmative action first earned 20% less than the average American but their children, the next generation earned 1% more than the average American.

>>3801630
marketability and business competence is a measure of success just like test scores.
in fact, achievements are arguably better predictors of achievements than tests meant to provide predictors of achievements themselves.

Now that I think about it, if any of this Eugenics stuff is right, the whole world should just hand over the keys to East Asia.

They are irrefutably by that logic our superiors. Physically sure they're lacking in some areas, but seeing as we threw that out the window, and some of them are still actually quite capable physically as well, their intellectual capabilities are unquestionable.

In fact. Why hasn’t America had an Asian president before it ever had a Black one?

>>3801658
Because liberals secretly hate Asians for your given reason. Asians debunk their stupid notion of white privilege by just being in the same country as blacks.

>>3801658
Only the 1% who gets the profits likes a meritocracy or technocracy.

>>3801658
Chinks have a deficit in creativity as much as their lead in IQ.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7658/is_200804/ai_n32270499/

They have smaller prefrontal cortexes. This is the seat of creativity, art, divergent thinking, and intelligence. It is largest in whites.

>>3801678
Asians are very very good at memorizing.
And are more likely to be virtuoses in music, but as you already said, they lack creativity.

>>3801658

Most Americans don't believe in evolution there for probably still think race is a social construct. If we had some sort of mass evolution education then people would start to see that "hey maybe we're not all the same and Asians are the Master Race after all!".

>>3801636
there's something to be said for the fact that in genetic studies, south asian first generation immigrants in the US still scored below their white counterparts.
also, south asia and the near east in the past harbored some fairly decent civilizations, relatively speaking.
now, south asians and middle easterners aren't a single ethnic group and do not all share as close an ancestry as whites/blacks/yellows.
it may be tempting to group them all together but in reality they are more the product of ethnic groups form all over the old world mixing with few authentic indigenous people, and consequently the range of abilities within a single nation like india can vary wildly between different populations (in some states, the literacy rate is 60%, in others, it's 90%).

>>3801690
lol generalizing all Asians are different some are good at math, some are creative not everyone is the same.

>>3801714
But there is a correlation.

>>3801731
Nope every human is unique and random no human is the same.

>>3801692
>look around me, everything was invented and discovered by whites-electricity,computers,modern housing,indoor plumbing,fridges,stoves,cars,etc,etc
>look at the list of major inventions throughout time
>laugh at your post

>>3801553

>>3801856
Chihuahuas could be trained to sniff for drugs or bombs and even be K-9 dogs.

>>3801856
not that i disagree with your issue with affirmative action, but ive seen a seeing eye dachshund once.

>>3801916
Cool, I've seen a black doctor once. The word is outliers.

>>3801635
>dat feel where this girl will grow up to be beautiful
>when suddenly you realize she has three front teeth

>>3801933
lolno. her upper incisors are skewed lightly to her left. my bottom teeth do the same thing.

Why does everyone on /sci/ make retarded generalizations

>>3801945
yea but its like tom cruise

>>3801997

you are on what began as a porn site

it is anonymous

people like to troll

this is a stormfront thread

join the rest of us and stop expecting any sort of thoughtful discussion and just enjoy the clusterfuck of stupidity

>>3801846
>electricity

>invented

Cool story bro. Also Asians where fucking around with advanced chemistry when whites where on which hunts.

>>3802038

>4chan
>began as a porn site

maximum nigger what the fuck are you talking about achieved

Get the fuck back to stormfront, goddamn.
I bet half the fucks in this thread have aspergers.