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If you can drink milk, you are a mutant. Human beings, as a species, quickly evolved to digest milk, in response to our invention of new tools--even though the trait is recessive.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/science/10cnd-evolve.html

>> No.3800813

If you have an opposable thumb, you are a mutant.

>> No.3800817
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3800817

>you are a mutant

stopped reading there

>> No.3800823

>mutant
lol popsci

>> No.3800834

Why are east asians lactose intolerant even though the mongols were a cattle culture and pretty much raped everyone in China?

>> No.3800838

>>3800834
because 1 billion people can't be wrong.

>> No.3800846

>>3800834
Because milk is for babies and you're supposed to become intolerant to it as you are weaned. If you're an adult and can drink it, you really are a mutant.

>> No.3800847

>Calling me a mutant because I share the traits of man.
Heretic!

>> No.3800862

lol you guys need to go to /fit/ more often. fucking GOMAD dite is the best way to put on mass.

just google GOMAD dite for more info

>> No.3800879

Fuck yeah, I'm a mutant.

>> No.3800883

I'm 20 year old asian and I can drink milk just fine. What's supposed to happen? Farting?

>> No.3800884

>>3800862
It is just like /fit/ to have a diet of gonads.

>> No.3800889

I can drink milk, but I get volcanic shits shortly afterwards, so you'd be half-right

>> No.3800897

>>3800883
If you ever stop drinking milk for a long time you probably have a high chance of becoming lactose intolerant unless you have the gene.

>> No.3800908

LACTASE-MEN ASSEMBLE! TO THE MILK-MOBILE!

>> No.3800910

>>3800879
>this is what /co/ would actually believe

>> No.3800924

I can't drink milk, it fucks my stomach up for about 45 minutes while I shit non stop. As a kid I was able to drink milk and I usually drank it every day. One day everything went haywire.
The nice part is I can still eat cheese, yogurt, and pretty much anything else. Sometimes I can handle milkshakes depending on the amount of milk added.
I think that it runs in my family from my dad's side. Some italian foods can do the same thing. The weird part is that I can usually tell when if I'm going to have a bad reaction depending on the smell of the food.

>> No.3800933

>>3800924
>drink milk
>all is well
>suddenly noisy guts that sound like dead farts (no pain at all)
>fuck it

>> No.3800941

>>3800924

>i can't drink milk but i can drink all this milk

>> No.3800946

I don't think adaptation is the same as mutation.

If a dog was able to eat chocolate, I wouldn't call it a mutant dog. Very little has, it's just learned to cope with a situation.

>> No.3800955

>>3800924
OP here.

Well, let me congratulate you. Where you once thought you were different from everybody else,
what you once thought was a weakness--is in fact the correct version of the gene. You WILL pass it on to your children, because the mutation which allows adults to digest milk is recessive.

#1 isn't that cool?
#2 isn't it amazing that human beings, as a species, have genuinely evolved in the past with the introduction of new tools?

>> No.3800962

>>3800946
Learn to cope with the situation?
I don't think a dog is able to learn to not get sick when he eats chocolate.
Not in one generation.

>> No.3800968

>>3800862

dite

lol'd

>> No.3800977

Native Americans and aborigines obviously lack a gene enabling them to tolerate alcohol as well.

What gives?

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3800983

Humans aren't equal after all.

>> No.3800993

>>3800805

Babies drink breast milk which has lactose so ur a moron.
It is a change in genetic triggering not the mutation of a new gene

>> No.3800998

>>3800962

What I'm trying to get across is; would you really call it a mutant dog?
It's still just a dog, it hasn't mutated from that.

OP's find is still very interesting, I'm not trying to rob it of its significance.

>> No.3800999

>>3800993
So you DID read the article! That's great!

>> No.3801010

>>3800999

no i didnt, i just know a bit about genetics

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3801012

> humans cannot drink milk

>> No.3801029

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw-BgYBOul8&feature=related

>> No.3801055

If you were conceived, you are a mutant.

>The human mutation rate is higher in the male germ line (sperm) than the female (egg cells), but estimates of the exact rate have varied by an order of magnitude or more.
>Human mitochondrial DNA has been estimated to have mutation rates of ~3× or ~2.7×10−5 per base per 20 year generation (depending on the method of estimation)[5]; these rates are considered to be significantly higher than rates of human genomic mutation at ~2.5×10−8 per base per generation[1]. Using data available from whole genome sequencing, the human genome mutation rate is similarly estimated to be ~1.1×10−8 per site per generation [6].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_rate
http://www.genetics.org/content/156/1/297.full
Mutation rates in mammalian genomes, S. Kumar, S. Subramanian, Proc. of the NAS 99, 803–808. 2002
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/328/5978/636.abstract

>> No.3801070

>>3800946
>I don't think adaptation is the same as mutation.

That's where you're fucking wrong.
How do you think adaptations work? Magic?
A mutation is a change in the genome, and there are several ways in which this can happen. The changes can result in an altered nucleotide base, an altered protein, an altered recruitment level, etc. Any one of these changes can result in something adaptive, maladaptive, or neutral. Most mutations tend to be neutral or maladaptive, but can sometimes be adaptive. Neutral or maladaptive mutations may become adaptive later if some feature of the environment changes selection pressures.

>> No.3801083

>>3801070
well, wait. mutation RARELY produces new species. evolution almost always happens just through the exchange of genes during reproduction (sex)

>> No.3801115

>>3801070
adaptation doesnt require mutation.
humans could evolve to be hairier or fatter in response to a cold climate. this does not require mutation since people already have hair and fat. the genes that cause hair and fat to grow have not mutated, they have only become more active by means of natural selection

>> No.3801128

All mammals can digest milk as infants (of course) only Caucasoid humans can digest it as adults. It is part of the traditional definition of being white.
Ethnicity /
Geographic Region % With Lactose Intolerance
1. East Asian 90-100%1
2. Indigenous (North America) 80-100%3
3. Central Asian 80%1
4. African American (North America) 75%2
5. African (Africa) 70-90%1
6. Indian (Southern India) 70%1
7. French (Southern France) 65%1
8. Ashkenazi Jew (North America) 60-80%3
9. Balkans Region 55%1
Ethnicity /
Geographic Region % With Lactose Intolerance
10. Latino/Hispanic (North America) 51%2
11. Indian (Northern India) 30%1
12. Anglo (North America) 21%2
13. Italian (Italy) 20-70%1
14. French (Northern France) 17%1
15. Finnish (Finland) 17%1
16. Austrian (Austria) 15-20%1
17. German (Germany) 15%1
18. British (U.K.) 5-15%1

>> No.3801144

>>3801128
This makes Japanese lactation porn so much weirder.

>> No.3801161

Funny. I was watching Snatch last night and was going to ask if what Tommy said was true, then I saw this thread.


>Tommy: You shouldn't drink that stuff anyway. [looking at the milk Turkish is drinking]
>Turkish: Why, what's wrong with it?
>Tommy: It's not in sync with evolution.
>Turkish: Shut up.
>Tommy: Cows have only been domesticated for the last eight thousand years. Before that, they were running around mad as lorries. The human digestive system hasn't got used to dairy products yet.

Apparently, most Aboriginals can't drink milk because they evolved too separately.

>> No.3801173

>>3801128
I still don't get how mongols can be lactose intolerant when milk is a huge part of their diet. I'm almost certain that lactose intolerance is due to periods during adulthood in which someone does not consume milk which atrophies lactase production.

>> No.3801489

>>3801144
You know what's weirder than even that. The fact that serve fucking milk in their schools in Japan.
Japan goes crazy over milk, though there are some people who apparently hate the fuck out of it too.
Why a lactose intolerant people love milk I have no idea. I mean sure it tastes good if you've got good milk, even fucking ice cream is delicious. But if I got sick from eating it, I'd stay the fuck away from it 99% of the time.
In fact, I did have something similar to that where some spicy fries I was eating during college I developed an intolerance to whatever was on the fries and I would get sick whenever I ordered them. I mostly ordered them on a certain day and noticed I'd get sick that day. So I stopped getting them, they were fucking delicious too.

>> No.3801762

>>3801489

It's pretty obvious they don't get sick from it. Lactose intolerance could very well be a myth, at least for amounts equal to a tiny carton.

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3801777

If you can drink milk, you are probably master race.

Nonwhites cannot drink milk. Pic related.

>> No.3801886

>>3801777
>Spain
I knew anything south of Catalonia was moorish crossbreed trash. It's good to be up here.

>> No.3801917

Cows have only been domesticated for the last eight thousand years. Before that, they were running around mad as lorries. The human digestive system hasn't got used to dairy products yet.

>> No.3801931

>>3801917
The master race humans have already adapted. The rest are simply dirty mongrels.

>> No.3801957

>mutants

Every living thing is a mutant.

Humans in particular are born with around twelve mutations on average.

>> No.3802083

>>3801957
unsourced

what about individual base pair mutations