/sci/ - Science & Math

There are valleys here. Canyons, plains, even mountains. Like the surface of an exotic planet we have only briefly visited the shores of so far.

"I was born too early to witness the man traveling to outward space. But future generations shall witness the conquest of th sea." - Nikola Tesla, novembre 18, 1894

The mountains here exceed in size anything found on land, each one of them awaiting survey. Seamounts are especially rich in life, and some of that life may well consist of creatures you will be the first to see.

>>3798641

I want to believe...

This new realm even has its own sky, the shimmering air/water interface, casting dancing ribbons of light down onto the fields of coral below.

space is cooler. just sayin..

The risk is not worth the reward, Space is much more survivable and has a much higher reward.

>>3798665

>space is cooler. just sayin..

I am having a difficult time understanding this view. Consult the picture at left.

The bottom of the ocean is an excellent hub for both human trafficking and performing immoral human augmentation experiments.

>>3798678

>implying you can mount search&rescue mission in space

Underwater has angler fish.


>nope.jpeg

>>3798678

>The risk is not worth the reward, Space is much more survivable and has a much higher reward.

However, the rewards of exploring the sea are far more immediate; We already drill, mine and farm the ocean, deriving from it gold, platinum copper, silver, lithium, manganese, and every rare earth metal as well as much of the food that sustains our global population.

The risk of descending into the sea is far less than that of riding a rocket out of Earth's gravity well, not to mention cheaper. These industrial and agricultural activities happen mainly on the continental shelf, or abyssal plain, not in trenches. It's trenches that remain dangerous to attempt visits to.

>>3798681

>> Implying human augmentation experiments are immoral.

>bottom of the ocean
>miles of barren wasteland where nothing lives and is boring as fuck
>pockets of shitty animals living off hydrothermic vents
>anything worth seeing can move faster/deeper than human built objects and thus will escape our view forever

>>3798709

>implying you will be saying that once we kidnap you and take you to our secret underwater augmentation chop-shop a.k.a volcano fortress and you wake up in a hotel tub sans one or two arms.

>>3798680

Just consider how large the Space is.

All the different landscape. All the differnet chemistry.

Ad all the surfaces of just the moons of the solar systeme, and you've got maybe ten time the surface of the sea.

That's why we explore space.

Moreover, discovering life where we know there is, has no point.


I don't say that we have to stop exploring the sea, but stop babbleing about leaving out the space.

>>3798710

>>miles of barren wasteland where nothing lives and is boring as fuck

So just like Mars, then.

>pockets of shitty animals living off hydrothermic vents

So it's just like Mars, except it actually has life? Unique ecosystems of chemosynthetic extremophiles that make for a scientifically valuable study of evolution in isolation, with each ecosystem around each vent differing like darwin's finches on the Galapagos? Sounds worth checking out to me.

>anything worth seeing can move faster/deeper than human built objects and thus will escape our view forever

We don't chase them in subs. We set up probes that take footage when triggered by motion, or use traps.

>>3798742

Enjoy getting funding to do anything. At least we have some kind of presence in the ocean...

>>3798680
space is still cooler, because of how impossibly huge it is and the infinite potential it holds. Get over man, the comparison to undersea exploration is just silly.

>>3798759
get over IT man...

fuck

>>3798753
Pretty sure the ocean ground is to unstable to build anything on its soft soil. 7.0-9.0 earthquakes are pretty common down there.

>>3798724
>Implying the "Human Modernization and Ruggedization" program won't be at least on a par with your mechanical monstrosities.

Also, your undersea colony may be more sustainable, but ours is a tax haven, has legalized drugs, and our drinking water contains 32% less urine!

>>3798742

>Just consider how large the Space is.

It isn't. Not to us. We can't reach 99.9999% of it, only look. Effectively the space we can reach right now is LEO.

>All the different landscape. All the differnet chemistry.

But you can't reach it.

>Ad all the surfaces of just the moons of the solar systeme, and you've got maybe ten time the surface of the sea.

None of which you can reach.

>That's why we explore space.

We're not exploring space right now, as far as I know. We don't even have a launch vehicle.

>Moreover, discovering life where we know there is, has no point.

So discovering new organisms is pointless unless they are ALIUMS? You've let science fiction distort your priorities. New deep sea species are legitimately interesting and valuable to science, yet you think they aren't because you're hoping NASA will find Pandora so you can have your blue alien catgirl waifu. For fuck's sake. Is this /sci/? Am I on the science board?

>>3798724

> Implying I'm not the guy organizing the whole thing.

Guys, if Mad converted me, your resistance is probably futile too. Just saying.

>>3798759

>space is still cooler, because of how impossibly huge it is and the infinite potential it holds.

Space is not infinite for us. It's limited by what we can reach, and the only worlds we can reach are barren, frigid deserts.

>Get over man, the comparison to undersea exploration is just silly.

It really is. Hundreds of billions spent, and you still haven't found even a microbe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBN56wL35IQ

Still a lot of stuff to explore in the ocean.

>>3798782
we can't reach it, but it's still more awesome and captures my imagination way more than the bottom of the ocean.

Lets compromise and Go ice fishing on Europa! deal? deal!

>>3798747
We use traps, eh?

Couldn't help myself.

Seriously though, I have a question for Mad.
One of my favorite parts of a scuba vacation is hanging out on a poorly-policed island with few regulations. I enjoy cuban cigars, fine weed, and mojitos made with Cuban rum on a daily basis while on vacation.

I'm imagining that your life support system can sustain my obnoxious smoking, yes?

>>3798774

>Pretty sure the ocean ground is to unstable to build anything on its soft soil. 7.0-9.0 earthquakes are pretty common down there.

Since when do we have to build on the ground? The ocean has whatever gravity you want it to.

>>3798782
I don't think the one has to exclude the other. If people got their shit together, and felt safe enough from each other to redistribute military funding into science and technology, there's really no end to the shenanigans humans might get up to.

>>3798775
>over the surface floating buildings attached to large poles which are anchored deep in the soil
>fucktheearthquakes.jpg

>>3798791

:)

>>3798804

>I'm imagining that your life support system can sustain my obnoxious smoking, yes?

It depends. If your habitat is close to shore and running on grid power you can just run the compressor constantly, refreshing the atmosphere faster than your smoke can foul it. That's how the Conshelf team all smoked like chimneys and were fine, but their support barge had to run the air compressors night and day. With a similar setup running on on solar, it runs the compressor only once daily (for an hour or two) to top up a bank of compressed air tanks, which then slowly release at a rate sufficient for your needs. In this mode, smoke would quickly become a problem.

So, you all want to explore the true oceans? Cool beans, welp now you all have to go in submarines that are nothing like the civilian vessels we have now. You need massive nuclear (or advanced AIP) ships, and for truly long term missions, nuclear systems which will be able to handle months without repair or resupply. You will be molested, your crew will be a bunch of borderline psychopaths...

And this is just a practice cruise.

Ask me about submarines, and that sort of thing!

>>3798813
i wanted to link >>3798774

Don't worry MS, I agree with you. The possibilities of deep sea exploration are amazing. The only reason you get such a negative reception is because of Sagan-influenced romantic dreams of space and cosmos (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) are being crushed by the lack of funding to decent space exploration, resulting in critical analdevestation

>mfw this thread and /sci/'s opinions on deep sea exploration

>>3798804
Please, underwater smoking has been around for years, it was only banned due to the increased cleaning costs/cancer risks/navy banning smoking. Any decent filtration system should allow for smoking.

>>3798800

>Lets compromise and Go ice fishing on Europa! deal? deal!

Sounds good to me. >>3798799

>we can't reach it, but it's still more awesome and captures my imagination way more than the bottom of the ocean.

I think you haven't seen enough deep sea documentaries. Look at what lives there. And this isn't even the coolest; that honor goes to that deep sea jellyfish they discovered, the only complex animal that is biologically immortal.

We found. A biologically immortal. Complex organism. In the deep sea.

What have you found on the moon?

>>3798822
How do teams on subs not go mad/get into massive disputes during missions? Not seeing the surface and being in a cramped environment must drain morale.

>>3798812
We could conspire to create a fake alien menace a-la "Watchmen" or that Outer Limits episode "The Architects of Fear" then we could really get to expanding.

I'm fine discovering new planets. I also don't have to leave my room to do that.

>>3798833

See, now this is the kind of thing that interests me. I like both space and ocean, but I'm really focused on the transhuman condition (as obvious by my nametag) and that's the kind of thing that really excites me. I remember reading about that years ago.

It's obviously possible, therefore it shall be done.

>>3798822
>You will be molested, your crew will be a bunch of borderline psychopaths...

Beer,Smoking, Opiates would fix this.

>>3798822

>Ask me about submarines, and that sort of thing!

Why is the Navy so stingy with their nuclear subs? Even just one of them, refit as a science vessel, would be invaluable. You have so many, and don't need them all for naval defense.

Imagine what we could do with a nuclear science sub. We had one briefly, the Nautilus (or was it the Aluminaut?) yet that sort of thing seems out of the question today.

>>3798835
>implying we are sane

Well, submarine crews are naturally crazy, its just our crazy is a sort of strange underway crazy, involving dance parties, racism, hatred, and love, and then we all watch movies together.

>>3798831
On subs, yeah.

Also, Naval Anon, are you in the nuclear navy?

What does Admiral Rickover have to teach MadScientist?

>>3798846
We already do a lot of research, and most of the old 686s are.. their cores are too hot to use, same with the older ones (Big E's main problem is one of its reactors starting to Emmit
too much radiation, making it unsafe to work on over very long terms!)

>>3798851
how did you know?

I'd be okay with deepsea if it weren't so goddamn horrific down there.

Most of the globe is covered in nightmare fuel and I just would like to pretend it doesn't exist.

>>3798833
meh. the forces and processes involved in outer space shit is infinitely more amazing. But kudos for your interest. I merely disagree.

>>3798848
And the chain of command keeps them mostly in line. They aren't outright mistreated, but it isn't a pleasant place to live. They do try to keep excellent food stores on-board though.
>>3798862
I went to a private, boarding, military high school. Our commandant was the CO of the Henry M Jackson Ohio Class SSBN.
We used to play games of 688i, Sub Command, and Harpoon over the school's servers.

I never joined the navy, but I have mad respect for it, especially any of its members that wear the dolphins.

686... Sturgeon class? Those cores have been running for 30+ years, yeah they're hot.

The Enterprise is a one-off relic, no surprise. The Ford will replace her soon enough.

>>3798867
The life there was shaped by the same processes that you were. It's just that the environment is radically different.

>>3798885
>>3798885
686=/= 688, fingers are dumb today, the oldest Los Angles are already.. well they aren't as advanced as they could be, and they are showing their age (I wouldn't want to be aboard some of them just due to... strange strange conditions!)

underwater stuff can be good training for space stuff too.

>>3798899
Yeah.

Shame, really. I was hoping to be wealthy enough someday to buy my very own decommissioned 688i to use as a yacht.

Yes, I'm aware the USA won't even let other countries buy our old boats. I wouldn't trust a Russkie boat. They leased the Akula to India... that thing must be a nightmare.

>>3798867

>I'd be okay with deepsea if it weren't so goddamn horrific down there.

>Most of the globe is covered in nightmare fuel and I just would like to pretend it doesn't exist.

That's part of the allure, isn't it? It's like a lovecraftian jungle populated by swimming partial abortions.

In my personal opinion I like the idea of space better, purely for the infinite possibilities of size.

But I don't think the technology is there at the moment to do anything worthwhile apart from going to Mars which is a giant red rock.

In the mean time I would love to see more exploration of the ocean, I think we should understand the depths of our own planet before worrying about spending billions getting to other ones.

>>3798903

Link to the rest of this please.

I'm for it. We've found some very cool stuff down there. I think you'll need to find something seriously mindblowing to get the kind of public support space has. But really, that's just a matter of time.

>>3798923
http://www.mangareader.net/strs

>>3798618
Hey mad scientist, totally off topic but Iv'e been meaning to ask, are you the guy who writes those plastic brick automaton comics?

Mad Scientist is my favourite person on all of 4chan, it's a shame Hampture has slowed down.

Why focus on deep sea? A large submersile rated for only 100meters, with comforts and moderate self-sustainability would be totally fucking awsome. In good weather you could surface and expose park like areas to the atmosphere.

In bad weather you could drop beneath the waves and watch the chaos of the waves through glass cupola. And being on international waters more or less permanently you could give the finger to law and order and traditions typical for whatever country you officially belong to.

>>3799052

>In bad weather you could drop beneath the waves and watch the chaos of the waves through glass cupola. And being on international waters more or less permanently you could give the finger to law and order and traditions typical for whatever country you officially belong to.

This is why increasingly criminal syndicates are building submarines of a sophistication comparable to professional built subs.

Sub pirates....a possible future hazard for subsea settlers?

>>3798987
I don't think it slowed down. You'll LOVE his next project involving hamsters.

>>3798980
He is.

Also,
>having arguments about whether sea is better than space or vice versa
>2011
I sure hope you supposedly rational /sci/entists don't do this.

>>3799322

Perhaps you are right, spacebro. Let there be a peace between us.

>>3799359
But space still wins because space created the ocean, and potentially 50 million worlds with seas, oceans, perhaps entire planetary oceans. They go hand in hand.

Ocean is more accessible and has more 'stuff' crammed in per cubic kilometer. Whereas space is damned near impossible to get into these days and while there's A LOT more stuff, it's all fifty thousand lightyears in any direction. with only stray molecular hydrogen atoms per usual cubic kilometer.

Expand into all directions at full speed.

>>3799376

>it's all fifty thousand lightyears in any direction. with only stray molecular hydrogen atoms per usual cubic kilometer.

That become relativistic buckshot at any respectable velocity.

>>3799376

>I sure hope you supposedly rational /sci/entists don't do this.

>But space still wins

:I Why u do dis

>>3798797
>completely ignoring the possibility of mining an asteroid
>ignoring the fact that asteroids hold many metals that we have very little of here on earth

what we should be doing is doing BOTH. I don't know why everyone is getting so butthurt about this, its not like they're mutually fucking exclusive

>>3799383

>what we should be doing is doing BOTH.

Full agreement. I didn't start the shitstorm, the guy who came into my sea thread and said space is cooler did. As if we don't already have enough space threads for him to post in.

>completely ignoring the possibility of mining an asteroid

We can mine those same minerals from deep sea deposits. The ore is six to seven times more pure than on land, and it's exposed via volcanic action rather than buried in veins.

Plus, it's happening right now. Pic related. Asteroid mining doesn't make business sense yet.

>>3799381
Because I can't knowingly say that ocean and space are on the same level when they just aren't, if I go by size, mass, and variability in conditions. Such as the 0 - 100'C 1atm oxygen/nitrogen planet which came out of space to partially form the ocean you and I know and love.

>>3799383
I agree with Mad here. Secure resources for modern electronics via undersea REE mining with a clear goal on obtaining more from the asteroids in the near future. Doesn't seem too bad.

I wonder whether all that saltwater is bad for your skin and stuff.

>>3799413

>I agree with Mad here. Secure resources for modern electronics via undersea REE mining with a clear goal on obtaining more from the asteroids in the near future. Doesn't seem too bad.

This we can agree on. Space is the ultimate goal. But oceanic development is the economic powerhouse that will drive it forward. The sea is for resouce extraction, farming, and prototyping. Everything we do there accelerates space development, and pays for itself.

>>3799414

>I wonder whether all that saltwater is bad for your skin and stuff.

Your blood has the same salt concentration as sea water. All the fluids in our body are that way, it's why saline solution is used in surgery.

We came from the sea, and still have it in our blood. We will always be salt water creatures, even if we have lost the ability to drink it.

>>3799399
I would also make the argument that moving out to space is becoming more and more important because the threat of human extinction increases every day, things like mutating viruses, nuclear waste, even vaccines could compromise the human existence. It is probably our number 1 responsibility as a race to stay alive because we do not know of any other intelligent life forms. If we are the only ones (which I doubt) we cannot let us become extinct. I have more points but I dont want to write an essay. Also, the sea is still super tight. I'm not saying that it's not. there is alot of important information we can gain from it and its organisms, many of which are still completely untouched.

>>3799447
I just have a question for Mad, are you a marine biologist or something? or is this just a hobby. I'm just curious

>>3799464

>because the threat of human extinction increases every day, things like mutating viruses, nuclear waste, even vaccines could compromise the human existence.

Undersea settlements insulate us against those same threats at a lower cost.

I agree we must settle other planets, but we get most of the same benefits at a lower initial expense and with a quicker return on investment by settling the ocean first. It is the logical transitional step.

>>3799480

>I just have a question for Mad, are you a marine biologist or something? or is this just a hobby. I'm just curious

Hobby. I'm also interested in the settlement of space and antarctica, as well as the possibility of underground cities and the development of deserts.

I focus mainly on the ocean because it holds so much potential but receives so little attention.

Maybe the final frontier was not space but the world inside, all along.

>>3799501
Nah, it was definitely space.

>>3799501

>Maybe the final frontier was not space but the world inside, all along.

There are many other worlds with oceans. At least two ocean moons exist in our own solar system.

We must not neglect space, but in our search for life, the most likely location will always be in the oceans of other worlds. That is, after all, where life started on our planet.

And if we ever settle another world like this one we will surely develop its ocean for the same reasons we're developing ours. That's what you do in the later stages of planetary colonization because that's the portion of the planet richest in resources.

We may one day become a species that prefers to dwell in the oceans of various worlds, using spaceships to get between them.

>>3799484
I can agree with this.

>>3799513
>>3799518

Maybe with 'the world inside' I meant the world of atoms! Ha ha!

>>3799524
Oh now you've forced me to post it. And couldn't of had a more perfect thread to fit it.

>>3799518

>That's what you do in the later stages of planetary colonization because that's the portion of the planet richest in resources.

Makes sense. You got this from Marshall Savage though.

>>3799527

>http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/9601-news.html#RTFToC53

I was thinking about making an infographic of the nanotechnological terraformation of Mars, but the article is so boring omg. What do you make of it?

>>3799540

I want to read that book so bad.

>>3799542
It seems to be more about 'Well Mars needs heating up and a pressurized atmosphere, these machines can do this and make this gas and extract nitrogen from nitrates blah blah' but in my opinion Mars will need to be supplemented Green Mars-style with continuous nitrogen shuttles from Titan. Extra solar radiation via orbital mirrors will be supplemented by nanotech until a widescale rapid conversion of the atmosphere into largely oxygen and nitrogen is required. Then we take Colonel Coffee and Drexler off their leashes and hope they don't strip mine the entire planet to create a Matrioshka brain encompassing the solar system like in Accelerando.

>>3799599

>>3799550

Used copies are very cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0316771635/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

>>3799550
>>3799662
Well lookee what Uncle Inurdaes found in the back closet of the internet!
http://ebookee.org/The-Millennial-Project-Colonizing-the-Galaxy-in-Eight-Easy-Steps_344109.html

Hey guys whats going on?

>pic related, its some enclosures for some underwater electronics

>>3798618

the only reason people care about the ocean is because we can exploit it. the ocean gives us oil and fish, both of which can be extracted from the surface.

until something otherwise is discovered, or the economics of commodities make the investment of sea floor mining worth it, no one will give a shit about what goes on under the waves

sorry bro.

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>>3799722

>>3799680

>pic related, its some enclosures for some underwater electronics

Woah rad! What's their crush depth?

Btw, got my missions badges today plus some freebies from past projects. I'm gonna put two of the badges on my wetsuit, left side of the chest and right sleeve. Just gotta figure out how to sew.

>>3799716

>the only reason people care about the ocean is because we can exploit it. the ocean gives us oil and fish, both of which can be extracted from the surface.

The only reason people care about asteroids is that we can mine them. Also, oil companies have projects underway right now to build submersible oil rigs that rest on the ocean floor;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/8228548/Brazil-to-replace-oil-rigs-
with-underwater-cities.html

The reason being the increased frequency and intensity of hurricanes, tropical storms and tsunamis which pose a threat to rigs on the surface. The trend, industry wide, is to put more and more of your hardware subsea as materials tech makes it increasingly practical to do so.

Pic related, Siemens subsea power grid stations.

Additionally, while you're right that fish "can be extracted from the surface", that's called trawling. It is a tremendously destructive method that's increasingly regulated and expected to be outlawed in the near future. Companies have sprung up in anticipation of this, like Kona Blue, with undersea fish farming structures like the one seen here.

We call out to the beasts of the sea to come forth and join us, this night is yours
Because, one day we will all be with you in the black and deep
One day we will all go into the water

Go into the water
Live there die there
Live there die

We reject our earthly fires
Gone are days of land empires
Lungs transform to take in water
Cloaked in scales we swim and swim home
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/d/dethklok/go_into_the_water.html ]
We are alive, and we'll metamorphasize
And we'll sink as we devolve back to beasts
Our home is down here, and we've known this for years
We must conquer from the sea, we build an army with water steeds

We'll rise, from our depths down below
Release yourselves, drown with me
We will conquer land with water

Gone are days of land empires
Lungs transform to take in water
Cloaked in scales we swim and swim home
We swim home
We swim home

NOT SCIENCE

>>3799678

AAWWWWWW YEEEEAAHHHHH

In return, animooted fine-motion controller for positional assembly. OC.

>>3800231

>mfw deleted

>>3800248
did you make that model yourself? what program was used to make it?

>>3800258

The model is Eric Drexler's, I took the pictures (MANUALLY) with QuteMol from NanoEngineer-1 and stitched them together in some web service that makes gifs.

I think it's on the bottom right of the gif.

Pic related, NanoEngineer.

>>3799796

Hey Im back.

The deepest Ive heard is 40 feet. But I wouldnt think it goes much deeper.

Those badges are awesome!

underwater mining doesn't have be expensive if we develop the technology. with the right type of plants we could have farms of billions of cubic kilometers.

>>3799484
>Undersea settlements insulate us against those same threats at a lower cost.

You've got to be kidding me! It's much more expensive to live in the ocean than on land. Have you thoroughly thought out how such a system would work? There's food and goods production, waste disposal, power generation, medical services, etc. How are you going to do that without the disadvantages that exist on land? Have you considered the fact that it's impratical to have a self-sustaining undersea-based civilization? What's are the beneficial differences between ocean-based dwellings and land-based dwellings other than having some water over your head?

What is down there that I can't already profit from using conventional technology (oil rigs)? Specifically something that causes environmental damage, causing environmental damage is a good indicator for high profits and my sole desire is to obtain power and money, in part because I want to live in opulent splendor (who doesn't) but also because I have a grand plan which will require vast sums of capital for R&D.

>>3801113

>You've got to be kidding me! It's much more expensive to live in the ocean than on land.

I agree. We were discussing the cost of undersea settlement versus settlement of other planets, not living on land.

>go 100m underwater
>oh noes the pressure is raping everything imaginable

what now fag?

>>3801268
build a better submarine

>>3801275
forgot pic

>>3801275
>>3801275

well i guess your answer to "why haven't we colonised the galaxy yet"is "build a better spaceship"

>>3801287
you have to be semi-retarded to think it isn't

....However, I will address this:

>What's are the beneficial differences between ocean-based dwellings and land-based dwellings other than having some water over your head?

An abundance of free land, free food and free energy. Put your turbines in the gulf stream and you have uninterrupted renewable power. Position the colony near a seamount and you have a greater density of edible animals on your doorstep than exists in any forest. You can feed a sizable community from an array of traps. Human waste is eagerly consumed by several species that normally feed on fish waste. Living underwater is inherently cleaner as you cannot use the internal combustion engine and buildings are lowered into place rather than being built on clear cut land using polluting construction equipment. On top of all this your surrounding environment contains some of the most stunning natural beauty left on Earth.

I hope that is a satisfactory answer.

>buildings are lowered into place rather than being built on clear cut land using polluting construction equipment.

well i guess the buildings just build themselves and report to humans ready for being lowered using even more machinery that assembled themselves with no help at all from polluting equipments

it makes perfect sense, let's go live under the sea

>>3801268

>what now fag?

The "race to inner space", begun last year, involves a competition between five private entities to build a submersible that can win the X prize for deep sea exploration.

Each will be capable of descending 6.8 miles into the Challenger Deep, cruising ten miles horizontally, gathering samples and video, then returning to the surface. They must be able to do this twice in some set span of time to qualify.

Of those subs, the furthest along (Cameron's) has already been pressure tested up to 6.8 miles and has passed. One of the others (Branson's) imploded and is being redesigned with a thicker pressure hull. It is a sister ship to Cameron's sub, so the design is viable, they just used different dome materials (solid quartz versus borosilicate glass).

Pic related, the sub that will return men to the challenger deep.

>>3801316

>well i guess the buildings just build themselves and report to humans ready for being lowered using even more machinery that assembled themselves with no help at all from polluting equipments

No, this is incorrect. You seem to have many misconceptions about how these structures are built. They are assembled in shipyards typically, the point is that the pollution happens on land rather than in the sea and the disruption of the environment involved in building a structure on land simply doesn't occur.

>it makes perfect sense, let's go live under the sea

I'm glad you feel that way.

oh noes, if you try really hard you can go 6.8 miles deep?

well i guess since the US try really hard and they have aircraft carriers, i guess i can have them too.

/exuberance upon ignorance

>>3801303
Uh, those ocean currents don't last forever. They stop and cause major extinction events, didn't you know?

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>>3801335

>No, this is incorrect. You seem to have many misconceptions about how these structures are built.

aspie detected

>the point is that the pollution happens on land rather than in the sea and the disruption of the environment involved in building a structure on land simply doesn't occur.

so your idea is to run off to the seas and pollute the land? aren't we doing that already with landfill and resource theft?

>>3801338

>well i guess since the US try really hard and they have aircraft carriers, i guess i can have them too.

If I understand you correctly you're suggesting that because it takes sophisticated technology to visit 6.8 miles deep, people will never like 250 feet deep. This does not follow. The requirements for these two depths are worlds apart. If you are content to live at 25 feet depth, for instance among coral reefs, the structure required is something an ordinary person can afford to build, and in fact it has been done. Pic related.

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>>3801365

>pic of someone in a building with light coming in

stop the press, its a fucking suboceanic biodome built by the atfuckinglantians

>>3801357

>aspie detected

Why so unkind?

>so your idea is to run off to the seas and pollute the land? aren't we doing that already with landfill and resource theft?

I would argue that the net pollution is less when it comes to undersea living due mainly to the necessity of using zero emissions electric vehicles, and that because sunken metal structures quickly become artificial reefs, we would be enhancing our ailing reef ecosystems just by being there.

>>3801372

>stop the press, its a fucking suboceanic biodome built by the atfuckinglantians

Why this attitude? I have more than just a picture. You can read about Lloyd Godson's Biosub 1 and Biosub 2 habitats here: http://spacecollective.org/rshostak/757/The-BioSub-underwater-living

>zero emissions electric vehicles

oh wow. i thought sci is smart but they still fall for the electric -> zero emission BS.

gg, i thought you were actually knowledgable and was giving you a hard time to see if you're full of bull.

finally you break

>2m by 3m prison cell
>food delivered by divers
>elegant living in a sustainable and self-contained unit

>>3801392

>oh wow. i thought sci is smart but they still fall for the electric -> zero emission BS.

If you recall, I mentioned power would come from tidal turbines in the gulf stream. Consequently both the process of producing electricity and using it in vehicles would produce no emissions.

>2m by 3m prison cell

This is only one example of an underwater habitat. Many such projects exist that are considerably larger. In 1963 a small village was established on the ocean floor, called Conshelf II. It can be seen here.

Additionally, the reason food was delivered by divers is because Biosub 1 was sunk in a flooded quarry. There were no fish to eat. Historical habitats like Sealab I and II included exterior traps to provide daily fresh food for the aquanauts onboard.

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>>3801412

>Consequently both the process of producing electricity and using it in vehicles would produce no emissions.

well i guess the people who dug out the oil to make plastic and move it to the manufacturing plants and all the electricity used to manufacture the electric vehicles don't count

makes sense

>>3801430

>well i guess the people who dug out the oil to make plastic and move it to the manufacturing plants and all the electricity used to manufacture the electric vehicles don't count

That is not included in the audit of emissions for power generation or usage. It is true that everything made today incurs emissions. However this is a disingenuous and irrational argument to employ against these technologies; Just because a solution isn't perfect doesn't make it worthless. It can nonetheless be a significant improvement over earlier methods. This is how it is with electric vehicles. They remain cleaner than fossil fueled powered ones even when charged from the current grid mixture due to a vastly superior powertrain energy efficiency when compared to gas vehicles.

May I ask why you're antagonizing me? If at any point I said something that offended you I sincerely apologize. It was not my intention, I only want to share my enthusiasm for these topics with /sci/.

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ok let's say if we had a car that costs 100000000000000000000000 tonnes of co2 to produce but is emission less forever vs a car that costs 10000 tonnes of co2 and emits 1000tonnes a year.

i guess the first one is the "better"technology then?

>>3801478

May I see the source for those figures? Here's the source for mine:

http://web.mit.edu/evt/summary_wtw.pdf

you really are bad at reading.

>>3801478
>ok let's say if we had a car that costs 100000000000000000000000 tonnes of co2 to produce
I'm not sure but I'm quite sure that's close to the amount of tonnes of carbon dioxide in ALL OF MARS' ATMOSPHERE
Stop with these unfounded exaggerations. He was trying to say that while at current manufacturing requirements EVs still require fossil fuels to be burned the amount released overall is still far lower for the EVs.

Why you hatin?

I'm currently a freshman at the university level, majoring in biomedical engineering, but I'm not so certain that it's what I want to do with my life. As your posts are rather inspiring Mad, I think I may want to...something sea-related. Have any suggestions?

>>3801500

>you really are bad at reading.

I read your post. You have created an artificial situation that does not reflect reality. THe manufacturing emissions of an EV are not many orders of magnitude greater than a regular car. The emissions involved in making the first generation prius were higher, because it used nickel metal hydride batteries which require smelting, an emissions heavy process. This is where the commonly shared meme that "Hybrids pollute more than gas vehicles" came from.

Modern EVs use lithium batteries. Lithium carbonate is a nontoxic mineral salt that, when refined into lithium metal, is among the softer, stickier metals known. For this reason it can be extruded in a process that need not use fossil fuels as the equipment involved is hydraulic, driven by electrical pumps. Even when it is powered from the grid it remains vastly, vastly less polluting than smelting and the end result is a vehicle with less in the way of manufacturing emissions than a gas auto.

>>3801509

Biomedical engineering can be highly sea related if you specialize in applications of organisms discovered in the deep sea. Substances found there form the basis for many of our most advanced modern medicines, and could potentially offer the biological immortality enjoyed by the jellyfish mentioned earlier. Pic related.

If you specialize in reef organisms you could potentially be invited to work aboard Aquarius.

ok i just finished reading the whole thing

and according to you if we ignore emissions required to manufacture, we can just stand around for the machines to assemble themselves, then we can lower these prison cells and then have robot-divers who also used self-assembled components to deliver us food while we pollute the land with not a care in the world cuz we live in the seven seas.


you truly are a pioneer of the sea-age

>>3801452
>They remain cleaner than fossil fueled powered ones even when charged from the current grid mixture due to a vastly superior powertrain energy efficiency when compared to gas vehicles.
The only practical electric vehicles I've seen are those that are connected directly to wires (e.g., certain buses and trains). Rechargeable-battery-powered vehicles can't even be compared to gasoline versions.
You say motor efficiency is much higher than that of gasoline engine efficiency, but that's not even an important factor when it comes to horsepower.

>>3801517
Battery powered electric machines are much less efficient that those that run off the grid, and they still need to be recharged from it. And guess what supplies the power to the grid? Heavily polluting power plants!

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>>3801561

you don''t understand. we are using zero emission vehicle. there is no emission. it runs on fairy dust and unicorn's rainbow.

>>3801561

>The only practical electric vehicles I've seen are those that are connected directly to wires (e.g., certain buses and trains). Rechargeable-battery-powered vehicles can't even be compared to gasoline versions.

They don't need to match that performance in order to be practical as daily commuters.

>You say motor efficiency is much higher than that of gasoline engine efficiency, but that's not even an important factor when it comes to horsepower.

Horsepower was not the original criteria being discussed, but rather emissions. Energy efficiency of the drivetrain is directly related to emissions as the less energy you use per mile driven the less emissions you have incurred.

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>>3801576

>Battery powered electric machines are much less efficient that those that run off the grid, and they still need to be recharged from it. And guess what supplies the power to the grid? Heavily polluting power plants!

I have already addressed this. EVs are still cleaner. Refer to this study: http://web.mit.edu/evt/summary_wtw.pdf

The gist is that because an electric motor is 85% efficient at turning electricity into forward motion versus 15-25% for internal combustion engines (which waste most of the energy in gas as heat or transmission friction) and because charging a lithium battery is around 99% efficient, and average loss in transmission from the power plant to your house is 6.5%, and large scale powerplants are more efficient and do a better job of reducing emissions than automobile engines, the end result is that even when charged from today's grid (which is 45% coal, not 100%, and 30% of it is nuclear + renewables) it's still twice as clean as a gas vehicle under the worst conditions.

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>>3801556

>and according to you if we ignore emissions required to manufacture, we can just stand around for the machines to assemble themselves, then we can lower these prison cells and then have robot-divers who also used self-assembled components to deliver us food while we pollute the land with not a care in the world cuz we live in the seven seas.

No, this is a misrepresentation of my position. I don't think you're interested in honest discussion.

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>>3801621
Look, cocksuck. I don't exactly speak cumdribbler but we on /sci/ really do love when the interesting science threads come around from time to time. I would say a good 25% of these emerge from Mad Scientist alone. So perhaps you should bugger off to whatever Venusian hellish landscape of an internet forum from which you originally emerged.

>damn you called me out on my faggotry and pipedreaming. all i wanted was to live in inhospitable enviroment while pulling out false theories and flawed science to persuage people to go live in the seas with me.

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>damn I really had an argument here. However I conveniently forgot and will resort to Ad Hominem Mode for the rest of this planet's rotation.

>>3801644
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>>3798681
so wtf is this?
http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Philip-Optional-Mercier/1205351405

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>>3801733
>inb4 massive pizza-shitstorm at his house