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So /sci/ a lot of us are undergraduates, and I think a lot of us understand that our bachelor degrees will be pretty much useless in our current economy. I plan on getting a Masters but I'm pretty dubious on pursuing a PhD, especially considering how grueling and financially ruining it can be.

I'm trying to figure out what sort of certifications might help me get into a lab tech position at a hospital or molec/microbiology lab. Any suggestions, for those who might have experience with these sorts of things? Further, do any of you know if you can get financial assistance from the company you work for if you are pursuing a Masters simultaneously?

Finally, how is the job market overseas? I expect it's probably poor in Europe, but what about a place like China or somewhere in S. America?

Pic related, from the disposable academic article from the Economist.

>> No.3789322

bump
Some of you must have a bit of experience.

>> No.3789342

>considers moving to china

are you stupid?

>> No.3789358

>>3789342
>are you stupid?
No, I was just asking about the job markets.

>> No.3789375

China would probably be unwilling to hire a foreigner.

>> No.3789394

>>3789375

wat
That's bullshit. It's the other way around, China is more than happy to hire foreigners.

Just expect to be met with a lot of blindsiding and big brother is watching situations.

>> No.3789402

>>3789181
>PhD
>financially ruining
I was living on $1000 a month in undergrad; doing a masters now and my stipend is ~$2k/month

I haven't even gotten grants/scholarships yet. Grad school is only expensive if you go out of hard sci / eng.

>> No.3789404

If you have a meaningful enough degree you shouldn't have to pay for a masters or PhD, your employer will

>> No.3789465

Ok, so what about certifications?

>>3789402
>$1000 a month in undergrad
wut? Were you employed?

>stipend is ~$2k/month
$24,000 a year is extremely low, considering the technical skill required for the work. Plus the fact that you'd be making that much for the better portion of a decade.
As a side note though, I could probably live off of 24k a year fairly comfortably though. I'm pretty low maintenance.

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>>3789465
>$24,000 a year is extremely low, considering the technical skill required for the work.

Where I'm from a good wage for PhDs is 800 €/month.

>> No.3789690

>>3789621
>good wage for PhDs is 800 €/month.
>800 €/month. exchange rate roughly $1 = 0.75€
>roughly $13,000 per year
That's... really awful actually...

>> No.3789713

Computer science here
What I'm hearing is that experience and a solid portfolio is worth far more than a higher degree. If you're good enough you can slip into almost any job with a bit of reading a guidance from a higher up.

The years lost in a masters alone is not worth the years the could be spent in entry level positions bolstering your resume.

However I suspect this is unique to computer science

>> No.3789726

>>3789713
Multimedia here. Its true for this field too.

I recommend AS/AAS or Bachelors depending on field, go get low level jobs for resume/experience. If you have time or money or need, go for Masters... but do not go for Masters -thinking- that you will get a better job "right off"

>> No.3789754

Going for computer engineering undergrad here.

What can I expect when I get granted I got decent grades?

I guess I'm at the point now where I need to decide if I should pursue a masters or if a BS will be enough to place me in a decent job out of college. What's my outlook?

>> No.3789766

>>3789726
>>3789713
I definitely agree that you need good experience/credentials other than just a degree. For my field though, people employed with a masters tend to do better than bachelors. The difference between masters and phd is largely insignificant though.

>> No.3789768

>>3789754

Higher then 50k-70k when you start is what I'm reading in a lot of colleges. However I'm not sure about all these sugar and sweets deal.

>> No.3789776

>>3789754
>BS will be enough to place me in a decent job out of college.
Bachelors degrees have become extremely undervalued over the past couple decades. You're not very likely at all to get a job simply because you have a bachelors, regardless of what field you're in.

>> No.3791635

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