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ATTENTION /SCI/!

NEUTRINOS GOING AT SUPER-LIGHT VELOCITIES IS CONTEMPLATED ON THE STANDARD-MODEL EXTENSION AT HIGH ENERGIES!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino

>Even though supernova observations indicate that neutrinos propagate at the speed of light, it is not clear whether this result holds at higher energies. In particular, in the context of the Standard-Model Extension,[29][30][31] a realistic effective theory that includes Lorentz invariance violations, neutrinos experience Lorentz-violating oscillations and can travel faster than light at high energies.

THAT IS ALL.

>> No.3785571

sticky this now mods.

>> No.3785586

so...

no FTL travel?

>> No.3785591

>>3785586
yes there is FTL travel but only for neutrinos

>> No.3785593

But that is boring!

We want science-foundation-shattering discoveries!

>> No.3785596

>>3785591

>make ship out of neutrinos.

where is your god now?

>> No.3785618

>>3785596
>make ship out of neutrinos
>can't physically interact with neutrinos
>can't board ship

>> No.3785633

>>3785618

>make bodies of neutrinos.

where is your god, again, now?

>> No.3785634

>>3785618
Make astronaut out of neutrinos.

>> No.3785636

>>3785618
>make people out of neutrinos
>land on planet made of neutrinos
bam

>> No.3785638

Well shit

I was hoping to party on Mars before i die.

>> No.3785639

what does this mean then?

>> No.3785641

>>3785633
>>3785634
>>3785636

neutrinos are the trolls of the Universe?

>> No.3785688

>>3785639
if it is proven correct, it means that our understanding of reality is fundamentally flawed

>> No.3785689

>>3785548

oh come on!

I wanted to be on the forefront of a new age of discovery on physics.

fuck it.

>> No.3785693

>>3785688

Actually, if you read OP, it's contemplated in one of the current models.

>> No.3785699

>>3785688
No, it means it conforms with theory. We predicted that the neutrino can go faster than light.

>> No.3785704

>>3785693
How? This wasn't about traveling faster than light, it is about how a something broke a fundamental rule of our understanding.

>> No.3785707

>>3785699
Oh. It is still incredible however.

>> No.3785727

>>3785707

indeed it is

>> No.3785732

>>3785591
> Only Neutrinos
THEN
> Only Neutrinos & Photons
THEN
> Only Neutrinos, Photons, & Electrons
THEN
> Only Neutrinos, Photons, Electrons, & Quarks
THEN...
Please, stop... Stop- STOP this madness. Stop being slave to 1 theory. That's not what Science is about.....

>> No.3785743

Why is it that people assume FTL = time traveling?

>> No.3785747

>>3785743
going FTL is the same as traveling through time backward
so if their neutrinos are going FTL they're time traveling
that suggests, at a minimum, that we can send information into the past

>> No.3785769

I'm not surprised honestly. It's what science does, we take pre-existing theories and update them as our technological capabilities improve. It usually comes as a huge leap once every 200-300 though this past century has been the century of tiny steps forward.
Being a sci-fi fan, I am giddy to have lived to see some form of FTL.

>> No.3787293

>>3785747
Not like it matters unless we can receive such information and interpret it.

>> No.3787305

Well, this proves my theory that someone has already written theories contemplating every single possible violation of the known laws of physics.

>> No.3787313

http://conservapedia.com/Starlight_problem


it all fits now

>> No.3787317

>>3785747
>going FTL is the same as traveling through time backward

dat hawking popsci books knowledge

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>>3787317
no, thats textbook knowledge
pic related, used it to explain it some time.

>> No.3788581

bump