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Taking AP physics this year and my teacher tells me that the course will be using more algebraic methods than calculus to solve the problems, so i switched out of stats into precalculus just so i could hopefully have a better understanding once in college.

The thing is though, i'm having a hard time finding a proper mindset to approach calculus with. I understand that it's the manipulation of numbers in a sense, but i'm still kind of lost in the dark mansion of it all (yes andrew wiles reference)

Can someone sort of give me some insight on how to approach it, or at least point me into a direction so i can understand it better?

links would be appreciated as well

>> No.3674243

>>3674232
calculus is essentially the study of change

Take the graph of the speed of an object. You can model the distance it travels, x, over a period of time, t. You do this with calculus.

>> No.3674239

just learn how to solve the problems through total immersion. insight can come later

>> No.3674250

Velocity is the rate of an object's position changing. Velocity is the derivative of position. Position is the antiderivative of velocity.

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http://thepiratebay.org/search/ttc%20calculus/0/99/0

>> No.3674291

I don't think i have much of a problem as far as applying simple calculus to physics, but when in my actual calculus class, the teacher is more of a living textbook. I don't really understand the concepts just because i don't know what they're supposed to be applied to. (hence why it's easier for me with physics since i know what i'm finding) rather than just solving functions and shit.

>> No.3674318

>>3674232
>Calculus
>it's the manipulation of numbers in a sense

FuckingNope.jpg

How about you learn what calculus is, then come back.

>> No.3674326

>>3674318

Well i'm making this thread to get a better understanding.

why dontcha help me out bruh

>> No.3674332

>>3674291
this is precisely why people become physicists. They lack the critical thinking ability to apply their formulaic models to reality. This is also why physics hasn't progressed much in the last 50 years.

>> No.3674347

>>3674332

well it's imperative that i have a good understanding of calculus, since i aspire to become a theoretical astrophysicist, then kill myself in my mid 40s because i'll feel lost in the world of mathematics and theoretical physics

>> No.3674393

>>3674332
I've never met a physicist who chose to be so because he couldn't handle the difficulty and glamor of pure mathematics.

>> No.3674422

>>3674291
Why the hell would you come here, when you could read the concepts on well-written wikipedia pages? With links to all associated topics?

>> No.3674426

>>3674232
I'll draw a little calc 101 .png for you

>> No.3674430

>>3674422

Just seeing if anyone could dumb it down to make it a simple understanding for me.

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>>3674332
>physics hasn't progressed much in the last 50 years

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>>3674332
>physics hasn't progressed much in the last 50 years

WTF? I think reality would like a word with you.

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>>3674332
>physics hasn't progressed much in the last 50 years

You sound as dumb as a christian
U trollin bro?

>> No.3674466

>>3674455
>>3674448
>>3674433

samefag senses be tinglin

>> No.3674481

>>3674430
Ok. Calculus allows you to measure areas of irregular shapes / volumes. Regular shapes (circle, square, triangles, etc) have easy, set formulas for area that you learn in geometry. But how do you find the area of any other shape? This is one application of calculus. Change.

As far as a simple explanation, they make whole web sites and books for that. Wikipedia, all the books in the "math" section at your local bookstore, etc.

>> No.3674493

>>3674481

thanks man, that helps.

Since it's still the first couple of weeks of school we've just been doing peacewise functions and what not.

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>>3674466
>admits he has 'fag senses'

Another engineering thread. Fucking HELL!

>> No.3674500

Sure is shit tier American Education in here
>Be an Ausfag
>15
Coordinate methods in geometry
Applications of geometrical properties
Geometrical applications of differentiation
Integration
Trigonometric functions (including
applications of trigonometric ratios)
Logarithmic and exponential functions
Applications of calculus to the physical world
Probability, Series and their applications
>16
Primitive of sin 2x and cos 2x
Velocity and acceleration as a function of x
Projectile motion
Simple harmonic motion
Inverse functions and trigonometric functions
Proof by Mathematical Induction
Binomial theorem and Binomial probability
Roots of a polynomial and their geometric applications
Parametric representation
Permutations and combinations
Circle geometry
Internal and external division of lines
into given ratio
>17
• Further Graphs
• Further Complex Numbers
• Conics
• Further Integration (parts, reduction, limits, double integrals, proof by contradiction)
• Volumes (conical shells, similar cross sections, revolutions, double integrals)
• Mechanics (horizontal and vertical resisted motion, bank tracks and relative velocity, conical pendulums, resolving tensor vectors)
• Further Polynomials (transformation method, fundamental theorem of calculus proof, roots of multiplicity, roots of geometric and arithmetic series continued)
• Harder previous topics (every single topic mentioned at 15 and 16 years of age except harder)

>Idk bout you guys but I'm ready to start University

>> No.3674524

>>3674500

that's awesome and relevant to the thread bro.

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>>3674500
>mfw
>Implying this isn't copy pasta

>> No.3674538

>>3674500
I seriously hope you're trolling. American students do that as well, sometimes even earlier. None of those topics are even remotely difficult.

>> No.3674644

basics of your first calc class

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>>3674644
whops, forgot to attatch image

>> No.3674657

>>3674650
I used comic sans to make it feel more friendly

>> No.3674684

>>3674500

we have bad public education in the united states, especially when it comes to math.

there seems to be a pervasive belief among the public (and students) that some people just "aren't good at math" and they never really try. I think everybody of mean IQ can at least complete single variable calculus, and we should require it for high school graduation.

odd how we still maintain the best universities in the world despite that.

>> No.3674695

http://betterexplained.com/

you're welcome.

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>>3674650

OP here, glad i stopped by before a possible 404

thanks for that, really appreciate it.

>> No.3674726

>>3674684
Yes, the education standards in the US need to be raised.
Anybody with mean IQ could easily complete single variable calculus - with a little motivation and instruction, of course.