/sci/ - Science & Math

Stab yourself when your not working so you associate pain with laziness, if you dont start working you eventually bleed out and die.

>>3668887

Adderall. Lots and lots of adderall

Profit motive.

1-phenyl 3-propanamine

>>3668902
R-isomer only, obviously.

Enjoy whatever it is you're studying. Learn to enjoy it.

Get a little project to do. Could be anything. Make a general goal by X time and make sub goals to achieve that goal that you work on daily. The more defined the sub goals the better. Stick with it for a few days and you'll have a positive feedback loop going. When your little project is finished you will have acquired the discipline to apply this to other aspects of your life.

Find out what you need to do, put yourself in a Skinner box made to train you to do it? Note that this probably isn't great for mental health.

>>3668873
Try deciding to give a shit about something.

Only if you consider psychology to be a science.

>>3668899
I once took adderall to see how it worked. I browsed reddit for six hours straight.

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No significant difference observed.

stop jacking off

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>>3668939
To anyone else interested, don't start taking adderall because of lack of motivation. trust me you'll regret that shit hardcore when the side-effects start getting to you. It has psychological effects exactly opposite of what you want.

>>3669025
why not?

>>3669025
Go into detail, cite sources if possible. Assurances of an Anon are worthless.

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>>3669041
after a quick search:

Psychopharmacology (Berl). 1996 Nov;128(2):171-80.
"...there was no evidence to suggest that amphetamine enhanced, or disrupted, the expectation of forthcoming work or the response vigor which this engenders. It is concluded that systemic amphetamine does not act simply to amplify a natural reward signal. By contrast, amphetamine was found to enhance the effect of foreperiod, suggestive of a mechanism for the psychomotor stimulating effects of amphetamine."

Not claiming to be an expert by any means. My assurance was based solely upon personal experience, and I looked up this topic only after being implored to do so. I have no idea whether this is the consensus in the field.

>>3669025
>It has psychological effects exactly opposite of what you want.

Subtracterall, then?

Eat healthy and exercise.

Take lots of amphetamine, OP.

Amphetamine is great. I used to be a lazy fuck with no motivation. Now I take these damn pills when I know something needs doing but I can't be bothered...a few hours later I've done what I needed, and a whole bunch of other things.

It's incredible. Your mind just focuses like a laser guided dart on whatever you intend to do.

>>3669183
This

Yes.

Amphetmaines

That's literally it, but they literally work like crazy.

hookers

>>3669183
how'd you get them?

There is a scientific way to make yourself stop being lazy.

It begins with the hypothesis-- Form a hypothesis as a possible explanation to why you are lazy and how it can be solved.

Next comes the testing process.

>Ithinkyouseewhereimgoingwiththis

>>3669511
Is the expierment to accquire dexoamphetamines and use them?

seriously fucking pisses me off to know there's a drug that if i took would make me never get distracted & organize my thoughts. my thought processii are so fucking out of order

>>3669511
>Scientific method
>Behavior

Choose one.

Psychology isn't a science..

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ohboyherewego.jpg

how often do people get busted for ordering amphetamines online?

i feel like it's safer to just get a hold of some meth and use it responsibly.

>>3669183
Where can i get some?

the most fucking evil thing in the world is going to 420chan/etc and seeing people, stupid, worthless, drug addicted people, using amphetmaines to get high

Fixing your sleep pattern with supplemental melatonin or Onnit Labs' "RollOVER" would be the best way to set yourself on a schedule. Stop staying up late, drinking caffeine in the evening-hours, and jerking off before you sleep.

These things are more draining than you realize.

>>3669595
still not even a fraction as effective as adderall, the only smart drug that humanity has ever synthesized and the future savior of mankind -- which functions by enhancing the fundamental aspect of humanity that is worth anything - intelligence and drive

IT'S LITERALLY FUCKING THE CLOSEST THING TO GOD

If everyone took adderall we'd have cured cancer, established a base on mars, and probably be halfway to biological immortality by now.

if everyone took adderall and was asxual, everything would be solved

i mean the average piece of shit takes adderall and their GPA goes from a 2.5 to a 3.9

think about what a smart person could do

it would elevate your average PhD to nobel prize status, as long as they kept taking it.'

you do not know sleep
you do not know distraction

you are a machine born of flesh and driven by chemistry

and it induces euphoric feelings which diminishes the stupid animal ape brain from getting distracted and perusing inefficient things

i can't fucking tell you how fucking pissed off i am that i graduated with a 3.9 gpa in physics and because of that I CAN NEVER FUCKING GET A SCRIPT because god knows you don't have adhd if you get good grades

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>>3669485
What's next? Meth?

>>3669633
if you become a doctor you could prescribe it to yourself. think about it

do you think /sci/ would exist if there was such a thing? If only, dear friend, if only.

>>3669640
No, how about you think about it. Take a long, hard look at that statement and reflect on why you're such an idiot.

>>3669640
that's 8 years from taking the mcat to getting my MD, and it's well established if you don't accomplish anything by 30 years old, you never will. all major scientists did their big work before 30.

>>3669639
what's next is a fuck ton of scientific papers and research, if all goes to plan.

>>3669629
i think this is a big reasson of why it works, if you elevate mood you're more productive, you don't even have to boost awakeness/alertness.

the fact is all OTC and a lot of illegal "mood boosters" are depressant, AKA alcohol/benzos/opiates, so the motivational benefit of good mode is countered out by the CNS depression.

i knew a girl....

>prescribed adderal as a young teenager
>went to harvard
>got a bachelor, but didnt go to graduate school
>she got a BA in psych

>adderal may make you focused, but that doesnt mean youll always make the right decision.

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>>3669667
nope it focused her on exactly what she wanted to do

she wanted to go to an ivy league school to fuck hot guys and try and marry a rich one

needed a bs major, so she picked psychology

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I TAKE 600MG-1G A DAY SOMETIMES

IT
DOESN'T
DO
FUCKING
ANYTHING

with adderall you are an unstoppable wrecking ball of productivity.

>>3669676

>mfw I can't get adderall
>especially mfw I even have add

>>3669679
why can't you get it?

>>3669686

Well there's a whole slew of shit to explain why, but ultimately the main reason is:
>no munz

>>3669696
do you mean you don't have money?

Isn't dexoamphetmaine generic by now?

>>3669703
Yes, no money.

>Isn't dexoamphetmaine generic by now?

I take 5-htp everyday. Works great and it's very subtle.

lol drugfags, they claim their snake oil cures all ills without proof then throw a hissy fit and demand proof they could easily google for themselves when someone points out well established facts

Nootropic thread?
Nootropic thread.

https://sites.google.com/site/scienceandmathguide/dashboard2/resources#TOC-Nootropics

>>3668899

not op, but adderall don't affect me in the slightest, unless I take way to huge a dose (4-5 x 36 mg), at which point I just get high/doped out... Useless fucking drug...

>>3669725

Something might actually be physiologically wrong with you...

Would you say that you are abnormally anhedonic?

>>3669728
perhaps a bit. Can't say I am, but can't say I'm not...

I took adderall once, spent 3 hours creating a dictionary of latin based on the names of dinosaurs instead of studying riemannian geometry, I then felt like shit for the next few days during which I had to implement the herculean willpower I had wanted just to stop myself taking more.

It felt good at the time, I felt as though I was being productive, but I wasn't really, when my high ended and I thought about it. I can understand how someone with psychological problems might confuse feelings for rational thoughts and conclude they have been given superpowers and aren't fuck ups but "need" the adderall.

>>3669736

Are you depressed, and not because the world shit and you have no direction in life?

>>3669743
That's a yes.

>>3669746

could be a problem with your dopaminergic pathways, or could be a problem with your uptake inhibitors.

Might be something you mention to your doctor, they can refer you to a psychiatrist, or neurologist if needed.

>>3669708
Hell yeah for bears. Richard Karn was hot back then!

>>3669759
Thanks for the input.

>>3669738
why didn't you get money instead of jacking off to gay dinosaurs

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>>3669759

Look at this bullshit.
Just stop being a fuck up.
Stop indulging in your patheticisms.

I really have to try adderall sometime. Mainly concerned with the fact that there isn't much information available on its effects on normal adults and the possibility of a psychological dependence on the drug. But I sure could use some precision attention span.

what the shit is that anthony fantano?

You can listen to the faggot who's samefagging the hell out of his adderall posts and get some medication to help fix yourself up. It might give you a brief distance from your laziness, but your internal habits really havent changed and you'll fall back into it easy-- or the medications will intensify the problems you're already having.

The people who use adderall and amphetamines effectively do so because they're already on the right track-- not in order to put themselves on the right track. Even with ADHD, it's a topical fix-- temporary for specific cases, like being in school for a few hours.

Do what you want, but I suggest going with the "take melatonin at night and get proper sleep." It makes a bigger difference than you think, and there's an intrinsically different feeling behind self-discipline and prescribed discipline.

No.

Basically, it works like this: You will or you won't. It really is that simple. There is no way to make yourself get up and do work--except by making yourself get up and do work.

Be aware of every moment you'd rather do something else. Let that feeling come, and then pass. Ignore it if it tries to return. Focus on one thing that you feel you ought to get done, and do that thing. Ignore the tendencies you'll have to do something more gratifying, something easier or something more pleasing.

Get shit done. There is no other way to do it.

I believe the words you're looking for are "automatic" and "effortless" OP