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/sci/ help me understand something. I'm taking intro astronomy, and my professor asked us to look at this photo and the popular deep field photo. He then went around the class asking every student what they saw. No one identified Mars. I repeat.. they didn't know the photo was of MARS. Why? I can't wrap my mind around how I'm the only person in a room of 20 students who can identify Mars. Feels bad, man. I'm annoyed that science isn't taken seriously in high schools, where these people should have learned things like this before going to college. What is this I don't even?

pic related, it's the image shown in class.

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>Americaishopeless

>> No.3650019

People are stupid, what else is new? All you can do is strive to be better and educate those who will listen (i.e. the minority of stupid people).

>> No.3650044

Knowing Mars from a picture is not something you need to know before going to college.

>> No.3650041

>>3650019

majority

>fixed

>> No.3650056 [DELETED] 

>mfw i could have recognized a picture of mars when i was 6 or 7

>> No.3650064

>>3650041
>implying the majority of stupid people want to listen to an educated person and not be stupid anymore

Not here in 'muraka

>> No.3650077

what's the point of knowing that?
how will it help me in life?

>> No.3650091

More than 99% of humanity has literally no use for knowledge of Mars. For most individuals the information they lug around with them is functional, and unless you plan on staring into the end of a telescope for your career being able to identify Mars on the fly doesn't fucking matter.

>> No.3650098

>>3650044

If you base your learning purely on a "need to know" basis. Well.

>> No.3651397

>>3649969
The same thing happened to me but in middle school. The science teacher asked who knows what is the closest planet to the sun by a show of hands. ONLY me and my Asian bud knew. Teacher was surprised that we even got the answer

>> No.3651420

We should be gathering all the information from the ocean beds now before they fill up in the summer

>> No.3651428

>>3649969
Can you identify all major landmarks in all countries from photos?
What about all famous people (authors, popstars, foreign politicians, etc)?

Can you explain the basics of venture capitalism, hedge funds, etc?
What about Japanese grammar? Chinese grammar? Russian? Arabic?

Just because you consider something basic knowledge doesn't mean it is. Most people have never looked through a telescope or browsed images of planets.

When you complain about how stupid other people are, you just show how superficial, ignorant and insecure you are yourself.

>> No.3651434

Mars is red, that planet is yellow.

>> No.3651458

>>3650091
>most individuals the information they lug around with them is functional

Functional.
Like which of the inbred cousins in [generic teenage soap opera] get with their other inbred cousins, or how many points Joe McUselessguy managed to get in a round of [generic sport] during the fourth month of his second season.

>> No.3651459

Knowledge is not Intelligence.

You have no right to call people stupid for not recognizing that picture was of Mars. If Mars in the the picture matched the popular consensus of it being red, chances are much more people would have recognized it.

tl;dr bask in your ignorance and self-righteousness

>> No.3651464

>>3651458
That information might actually help them socialize, so yeah, it can be functional.

Again, another example of
>I don't see its value, therefore it must have no value.

aspie much?

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The popular image of Mars is something like what you see here. I bet most people would have correctly identified this picture.

>> No.3651498

>>3651464
>derived value
>asspies
No, you are the non-functional peoples.

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It's curious that in the country most developed in space exploration there are people who doesn't recognize Mars.

Mad mad world.

>> No.3651592

To be fair, that image is missing the ice cap and the redness, which are the planet's "signature" features.

Of course, given that they've really only got so many options to choose from (the teacher obviously wasn't going to ask them about some obscure exoplanet), they surely could have guessed via process of elimination.

>> No.3651599

>>3651428

You keep pretending those people would do any better at those categories. Maybe if you define "famous people" to "people who've been on Jeopardy" or something.

>> No.3651601

>>3651459
>asspie

>> No.3651602

>>3651493
IT'S A SKULL
IT'S A FREAKING SKULL

>> No.3651604

OP's pic isn't mars, it's enceladus and this whole thread is a troll

7/10

>> No.3651611

>>3651604
if it's enceladus then why is it at the top of the wiki article on mars

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>>3651611
because OP edited wiki hurr durr

pic related. what mars actually looks like

>> No.3651631

>>3651623

>filename.xcf

>> No.3651635

>>3651631
What? You didn't know Mars is the moon of Europa?

>> No.3651645 [DELETED] 

>>3651635
no no no no no no no

no no

mars is just the old name for europa before IAU designations were systematized

pic related, ganymede

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This is actual image of Mars taken by Russia's Sputnik VI last year.

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>>3651635
no no no no no no no

no no

mars is just the old name for europa before IAU designations were systematized

pic related, ganymede

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>>3651645
No. Europa is the new name of Pluto+Charon, which together constitutes a fully-fledged planet.

Pic related, it's Pluto+Charon before re-naming and re-design.

>> No.3651695

Find something on Mars and then you'll get everyone interested and hopefully throwing money at it

Now finding some kind of fossil record....

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I only just noticed the resemblance.

>> No.3651713

>>3651651
that's coruscant, a moon of your anus

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>>3651713
that's no moon

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>>3651719
but this is

mimas, moon of saturn

>> No.3651742 [DELETED] 

>>3651727
Yfw, it turns out that Mimas actually is an ancient space-station that has been covered with a layer of space dust.

>> No.3651852

Yeah I talked to somebody who claimed they knew stuff about physics and they thought the fourth spatial dimension was time. I'm only 15, but I've already come see that hopeless everyone is hopeless

>> No.3651866

>>3651742
yfw your dick is covered in a layer of dust

>> No.3651888

>>3649969

>taking an intro course
>surprised when people don't know much about astronomy

Hurf Durf

>> No.3651924

ITT: OP gets on his high horse and some people circle jerk. Then sane rational posters point out key things like it's an INTRO course for people who know nothing on the subject, that if no one in the group answers a question first most people will stay quiet for fear of being thought stupid, and that OP's inference that science is not taken seriously in whatever country he's in just because some people in one intro college course said nothing on the subject.

I bet you're American, OP.

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>filename

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Don't worry OP, soon enough everyone will recognize Mars.

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/sci/ help me understand something. I'm taking intro art history, and my professor asked us to look at this photo. He then went around the class asking every student what they saw. No one identified venus and mars by sandro botticelli. I repeat.. they didn't know the photo was of VENUS AND MARS. Why? I can't wrap my mind around how I'm the only person in a room of 20 students who can identify a masterpiece of florentine art. Feels bad, man. I'm annoyed that fine art isn't taken seriously in high schools, where these people should have learned things like this before going to college. What is this I don't even?

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>>3651986
>2011
>not knowing who I am

ISHYDDT

>> No.3652402

>>3649969
don't worry op i knew it is mars

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>>3651998
>he thinks mars can hold an atmosphere and if civilization ever has the technology to make it so it would bother using it just to make mars habitable for primitive beings that naturally evolved to live on earth

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>>3652413
>>if civilization ever has the technology to make it so
>>technology to make it so
>>make it so

MAKE IT SO

>> No.3652542

>>3652007
I hurt my tummy laughing

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>>3652413
Mars can hold an atmosphere for millions of years without any kind of extra protective technology such as an artificial planetary magnetic field.
http://bigthink.com/ideas/24011
>Answer: You are absolutely correct. Mars is a small planet, and hence it's gravitational field is not strong enough to permanently hold onto a dense atmosphere, but it is sufficient to hold onto an atmosphere for thousands to millions of years, which is enough for us. Once we terraform Mars, there will be enough of an atmosphere to take of all our needs for generations to come.

And the difference between Mars and Earth in terms of support for living organisms isn't as extreme as you think, provided there is a relatively thick atmosphere. Life adapts.

>> No.3652558

>>3652007

One is potentially our new home and a wealth of scientific and practical knowledge. The other is some crap scribbled on a wall that provides no practical or scientific benefit.

>> No.3652602

ITT: People who didn't know that was a picture of Mars defend their ignorance.

>> No.3652654

>>3652602
yeah. tint it red and then it'd be easy. otherwise it's just a rock.

>> No.3652711

>>3652654
Should be obvious when you see Valles Marineris.

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>Valles Marineris

nice rock art they have there

>> No.3653145

I know that feel OP

I was the only person in my upper div finance class who knew what the Sarbanes-Oxley act was

>> No.3653165

>>3649969
Why are there two chunks missing from the lower portion of this planet? Planets are defined as being spherical. Probalby not Mars, or OP is a faggot who fucked up a phtoshop job.

>> No.3653177

>>3650007
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

>> No.3653279

Sounds like some of you have a problem with high schools being stricter on the sciences. I say that because many of you in this thread are trying to excuse people from not knowing what Mars looks like without cliche's. I guess if it's not going to be on the CAT exams or whatever they're called now, teachers aren't going to care about teaching students about planets. Sucks to be them I guess, but they can always take their education in their own hands.

Inb4 knowing the planets by pictures is special knowledge. It's not. It's common knowledge.

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>>3652545
>Mars is a small planet, and hence it's gravitational field is not strong enough to permanently hold onto a dense atmosphere

>thinks lower mass means it can't have an atmosphere.

Titan would like a word with you.

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>>3653365
To be fair, Titan has to combat with far less solar wind and I believe Saturn partially shields it with its magnetic field, but I may be mistaken.

I would consider Venus to be a greater example. Has to put up with 400% more sunlight and solar wind, no magnetic field and it's got an atmosphere to crush anyone's balls.