/sci/ - Science & Math

it gave me stained teeth

>America
>Coffee
>Barbarous

>Britain
>Tea
>Civilised

Tastes good.
Makes me have to take a piss or a shit or both.
Makes my breath smell.
But damn do I love that caffeine.

>>3647395
>Britain
>Civilised

It might make someone feel more motivated and productive but that may not actually be what is happening.

That is such a lot of crap, you're not more productive because you drink coffee. In the end, coffee takes away from your productiveness. It extends the time in which you can be productive, but that time and some more is taken away from the next day or week.

You need both inductive and deductive reasoning to innovate, solve, explore and develop ideas, caffeine doesn't help deduction which requires that you calmly and patiently plan and follow through set methods. It might motivate you to be pro-active and search for new perspectives on things but it does not necessarily improve your ability to do so, so it may not enhance inductive reasoning either.

I suppose in situations where the negatives are less relevant and the positives are more relevant a certain amount of caffeine might be beneficial, all things considered I would limit yourself to 3 cups of coffee a day and don't drink any caffeine less than 8 hours before sleep.

In some ways, yes.

>Likewise, in tests of simple reaction time, choice reaction time, incidental verbal memory, and visuospatial reasoning, participants who regularly drank coffee were found to perform better on all tests, with a positive relationship between test scores and the amount of coffee regularly drunk. Elderly participants were found to have the largest effect associated with regular coffee drinking.[11] Another study found that women over the age of 80 performed significantly better on cognitive tests if they had regularly drunk coffee over their lifetimes.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_coffee

>>3647400
>2011
>not refreshing the tree of liberty with mass popular action
stay classy Amerifats

>>3647400
America has had plenty of riots as well.

>>3647400
If america has a riot... holy shit, I don't think your military could contain it without taking lives.
Especially in the areas where everyone owns a gun.

>>3647446
Reaction time is not the same as intelligence.

>>3647456
>>3647464
Americans don't riot, they stay at home, watch fox news and force another bigmac into their rectum.

excessive coffeedrinking causes hairloss. being bald means ure cooling easier thus being able to think better. coffee makes you smarter, qed

>>3647468
>Reaction time is not the same as intelligence.

>reaction time
>choice reaction time
>incidental verbal memory
>visuospatial reasoning
>ability to read more than two words in a sentence

coffee stimulates the central nervous system and cardiovascular system. generally id say a higher activation level lets you transform this into more activity you couldnt do without.

>>3647477
>mfw i have adhd and i am really good at this stuff
>mfw i am stupid as hell

>>3647473
>doesn't remember all the niggers stealing shoes and shit during hurricane katrina.

>>3647482

Yes, there are many aspects to what we call intelligence. That coffee makes one "smarter in some ways" is a perfectly reasonable statement.

>>3647381
I have severe ADD, and without large amounts of caffeine and methylphenidate there's no way I could get through grad school.

Based on my reaction, it should be banned. First I get high, worse than methamphetamine, then I come down, and eight hours later I lose the ability to deal with small stresses and get angry at little shit that shouldn't bother me. Apparently my adrenal glands are squeezed dry. Coffee is nasty stuff. It isn't the caffeine, because I can consume green tea and caffeinated sodas without ill effect. Coffee probably has a bunch of other related alkaloid poisons that mess with me. I know a couple who refuse to give up coffee and they take anti-depressants. Look at this: http://mbldownloads.com/0309CNS_Hedges.pdf

>>3647513
>Based on my reaction, it should be banned.
so based on you being a pussy, the billions of people that have been enjoying coffee for the last thousand years shouldn't be allowed? fuck off, fascist.

No it makes you worse at math. Faster but more prone to fucking up. In my experience

>>3647477
>hurl insults at anyone who disagrees
Those are just other forms of reaction time, they are very well engrained or instinctive processes in the brain which have just been sped up due to caffeine, they are not complex cognitive tasks or unique problems that require calm methodical attention.

>>3647539
the thing about actual science is that it's hard to test extremely complex things and form proper controls for them. so we have to break them down into simple things that can be experimented on and validated with proper controls.

basically, you're a dumbshit, and essentially every study on caffeine has shown higher mental faculties.

i just finished my cup after that sentence, and am going to go grab another.

>>3647527
A little angry? Maybe one cup too many?

>>3647513
>>3647527
http://caffeineweb.com/

>>3647539
see
>>3647489

>>3647513
>Based on my reaction, it should be banned.

All of my contempt.

>>3647549
Enjoy your increased stress and inability to concentrate on one thing for more than a minute.

>>3647549
>>3647573
>>3647489
So in other words you're arguing semantics.

If caffeine makes someone too stressed and on the edge to solve a puzzle but has a faster reaction time that means their intelligence has increased because reaction time now means intelligence?

>>3647608
>So in other words you're arguing semantics.

No, you are. "Coffee makes you smarter in some ways" is straightforward and true.

Dale Cooper started me drinking coffee. I wish I was lying.

>>3647381
By this logic, so does amphetamine.

>>3647645
Just look at satisfied he is. God damn.

Let's talk about cocaine, /sci/. Cocaine makes many people more productive, but do you think it makes people more intelligent?

Indirectly I would say yes; person snorts cocaine and is more productive, that person can then do more work and possibly figure things out faster. What do you guys think?

>>3647452
Your questionable logic aside, hacking a murderer into little pieces with a machette to save 100 orphans may be the right thing to do, but that doesn't make it civilized.

>putting your bump on page 10

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/caffeine.shtml

>>3647513
>>3647686
>implying spiders are any useful comparison to humans, people know the effects of these drugs on humans very well. to test it on spiders is interesting for the novelity of their action, but as a comparison to humans it is very foolish. srsly are spiders mammals? do they have brains like us? do they even have 2 eyes like us? 4 legs? nah dude, nah, they have 4 fucking eyes and 8 fucking legs.

what these spiders are experiencing and how they are behaving is based on very different details then a human's experience with the same drugs. Also dosing is a factor the people giving those spiders drugs might have dosed them proportional to body mass, which seams wise enough, but imo a better dose would be one based on body mass and brain mass/density.

Paul Erdos

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