/sci/ - Science & Math

Yes and no.

Yes because there is a tendency for invertebrates to be much larger the deeper they live, like crustaceans and cephalopods.

No because there's vastly less nutrition to be had in the deep sea; No plants grow there, so scavengers must live off of 'marine snow', scraps that rain down from the photic zone, and predators must live off of those scavengers. It's a very fragile, limited ecosystem that can't support very many large predators. Then again if the collossal squid can live down there, who knows. It's really a question of how many different large predator species could survive off of the available energy.

One interesting bit of speculation is that because lobsters don't seem to grow feeble with age and never stop growing, there could be a small number of absolutely massive car sized lobsters in the deep ocean.

>>3586626
>there could be a small number of absolutely massive car sized lobsters in the deep ocean.

I know where I'm definitely never going

>>3586626
>Car sized

Fuck yes!

It's so depressing how little we know about our own ocean.

>>3586626
> car-sized lobsters
DINNER IS SERVED

Could the huge animal you talk about be responsible for the Bloop? I heard a theory that it could have been made by some huge animal.

>>3586640
You're not the only one to have this theory.

>>3586640

If it were an animal, we'd have heard it more than once.

>>3586644
What if it's shy?
:3

>>3586626
They... they never stop growing?
Why hasn't some mad scientist ever bought a lobster, put him in his lab, and just let him grow for a century undisturbed, or maybe longer, telling his descendants to care for him? We could build a whole army of bus-sized lobsters, taking over the world with them, for science!

Speaking of mad scientists... you're the type of guy who always seeks out crazy projects, aren't you? Would you maybe consider growing an army of car-sized lobsters? Pretty please? It's for science...

>>3586644
Yeah, it's a stupid theory. I like the iceberg theory, personally.

>>3586652

>Why hasn't some mad scientist ever bought a lobster, put him in his lab, and just let him grow for a century undisturbed, or maybe longer, telling his descendants to care for him?

They have. That's a real experiment being done now, which has gone on for many years already.

http://animals.howstuffworks.com/marine-life/400-pound-lobster.htm

>>3586652
I think the problem is that lobsters hate captivity, and cages stunt their growth.

Fuck, man, the deep sea is terrifying. Imagine diving down, so far down, that the light of the sun which bathes the earth can't even reach you. Crushing pressure, and DARKNESS, everywhere. Hull breach of your vehicle? You die. Alone in the dark, you die, and are never found. The depths consume you.

>>3586662
get the motherfucking butter out

>>3586667

>Fuck, man, the deep sea is terrifying. Imagine diving down, so far down, that the light of the sun which bathes the earth can't even reach you.

We've done that before. Light only reaches down about 600 feet. The AEGIR habitat in Hawaii was in 520 feet of water, perpetual silent darkness.

For an idea of what that's like, look at this video of a nighttime dive around the Aquarius habitat. It's in just 60 feet of water, but at night it's a good simulation of what it would be like in a habitat beyond the photic zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp5Pqu5Cauk

>>3586667
You, good sir, are the embodiment of real science's greatest enemy: FEAR.

>>3586662
>teeth located on their stomachs
>regrow severed limbs
>don't age
>never stop growing

Lobsters confirmed for being c'thulu.

OP, what's weird is that the blue whale isn't the biggest known organism.

>>3586695
Yeah, I know. Isn't it a fungus or something?

>>3586687
Yea because fear is totally not something that you can work past, and totally isn't often times a completely logical and helpful reaction which motivates us to do better science which won't destroy us all.

If people weren't afraid of a worldwide nuclear holocaust, would we be alive? Probably not.

>>3586699
I thought it was a large grove of Aspen trees (all one organism, actually, with multiple trunks).

>>3586712
But my boy, if we hadn't puffed up our chests, rolled up our sleeves and marched headstrong into the unknown in the name of science long ago, brushing fear aside, we wouldn't be here discussing the matter using a floating thing in space, would we?

I like these threads.

>>3586713
Nope.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-largest-organism-is-fungus

>>3586747

Or maybe Lovecraft wasn't making shit up.

what's weird is how, after triangulation, they found the bloop was near to the supposed location of the fictional city of ya'rlyeh (sp?)
Makes me think the whole thing's a hoax,
Some navy guys in charge of the sonar net having a laugh at the scientific community.

too deep and the pressure becomes too much, can't move too much. Not enough food, not enough oxygen to breath. I think we have a clear winner here. If I recall correctly, they have dived to the bottom of the deepest trench and seen life there, but it wasn't full of organisms. There is trade off everywhere, squid doesn't have bone/lung/air bladder.

>>3586750
I have to say, out of all the Atlantis and Bigfoot bullshit, Cthulu is my favorite.

>>3586760
>We've been to the bottom of the deepest trench

I don't think so, friend.

>>3586737

Oh cool, someone using my pic. Did you know that sub is a prototype for one that's participating in the Race to Inner Space? Three companies, each producing a state of the art submersible to return to the challenger deep and cruise ten miles along the bottom. It's an X-Prize thing apparently.

From what I've heard, Richard Branson's sub failed pressure testing. The crystal dome cracked under just 1/8th the pressure it was supposed to withstand. James Cameron's sub, however, withstood full pressure for hours of testing with no cracks. Bruce Jones' sub is still in the prototype phase.

Exciting shit. My money is on Cameron beating everyone else to the punch and filming it in 3D.

>>3586744
This species is the master race. If it ate humans these guys would make hippos look like pussies.

this is relevant to my interests

>>3586773
>I don't think so, friend.

Um, yes we have.

Is this thing really massive ,or is this just a trick of the light/angle/parallax shit?

>>3586829
It's fucking huge. I saw a dead giant squid at the Marine Center in Sarasota, FL. That fucker must have been like 18 Meters long (appr. 54 ft)

>>3586829

Collossal squid can grow to be the size of a bus.

>>3586747
>what's weird is how, after triangulation, they found the bloop was near to the supposed location of the fictional city of ya'rlyeh (sp?)

R'lyeh. And it's actually about a thousand miles away.

>>3586855

1000 miles is in the ballpark when you're talking about ancient cities built with noneuclidian geometries from when the stars were young.

>>3586773
In 1960.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathyscaphe_Trieste
Didn't really know this either. It's weird how the media doesn't seem to mention stuff like this very much.

>>3586855

Fine, there's a recording of a colossal biological-ish sound coming from within a thousand miles of an alleged location of a fictional underwater temple to an all devouring elder god of insanity.

That its a thousand miles out totally debunks the whole theory, thanks, I feel better now

This man is a legend within marine biology:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj6kMOod1cc

>>3586886
Yeah. He is to marine biologists what Carl Sagan is to stoners.

Little known fact.

After about 200 years lobstera undergo metamorphisis and grow wings. Their carapacs stops growing as one unit and begins developing smaller multiple smaller parts. These lobsters also have a penchant for kidnapping princesses.

>>3586882
>within a thousand miles

It's 1234 miles, according to Wolfram Alpha.

>>3586904

bump, still looking for any good archives.

>>3586591