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3572511 No.3572511 [Reply] [Original]

Is it too soon to conclude it's a power plant?

>> No.3572535

I know this is old news, but this has been my first chance to pretend I have free time.

>> No.3572574

>Gas giant
>0.03 AU from the sun

How is it still a gas giant? Shouldn't it be vaporized?

What are the chances this is actually a black hole and the "red glow" is actually light from the sun being red shifted.

>> No.3572604

Any conjecture on what this this is made of?

>> No.3572614

>>3572604

Whatever it is... it's a molecular make-up that hasn't been seen before. Guessing the elements though... have fun with that.

>> No.3572616

Seems interesting, but not very possible.
if so, I want to know more about this crazy ass giant.

>> No.3572619

>>3572574
>How is it still a gas giant? Shouldn't it be vaporized?
Vaporize into what? Gas?
Gas giants tend to form near the center of planetary systems, don't they? Solar system excluded, of course.

>> No.3572621

>>3572511
so where exactly is this planet?

>> No.3572625
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3572625

>>3572574

>he thinks if something is red shifted it actually glows red

>> No.3572626

>>3572574
>chances of being a black hole
zero

>> No.3572628

can I get a sauce on this

>> No.3572632

link to article

>> No.3572640

>>3572632
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrES-2b

>> No.3572657

what are the odds of this being an actual dark matter planet.

>> No.3572660

>>3572657
0.0

>> No.3572661

>>3572657

>The stupidity increases.

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3572678

3 posts already have me loling! This thread needs moar stupid.

>> No.3572689

Odds are this is some kind of weird illusion.

>> No.3572722

>>3572574
>>3572657

Nice job /sci/.

What if it's composed of lead dust and graphite?

>> No.3572742

It's made out of dark matter to harness dark energy.

>> No.3572748
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3572748

My hypothesis:
It does have some of those light-absorbing chemicals. However, because of the close proximity and very high temperature of that gas giant, the density of the planet is low enough that only hydrogen and helium form the upper layer of the atmosphere of the planet, while the light absorbing shit swirls below. So the light passes through the top layer and then has much more trouble being reflected back out. I would appreciate if someone could tell me how this is wrong.

>> No.3572757

>implying the planet is not inter-dimensional

>> No.3572759

wut happen if dark matter planet exist....!!1

>> No.3572760

Can't it just be a failed brown dwarf?

>> No.3572796

>>3572757

Clearly this is an alien intergalactic quantum computing space teleporter, made out of crystals. For making pyramids.

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>>3572796

>> No.3572804

>>3572621
750 light-years away.

>> No.3572806

Somewhat related question(s):
Does the actual viewing power of telescopes follow a trend anything like Moore's Law?
When will we be able to observe distant planets directly? WHEN?

>> No.3572808

>>3572760
How does that explain anything?

>> No.3572811

>>3572806
We... have?

Forming planets have been directly observed within the accretion disk of stars.

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3572816

>>3572796

>> No.3572819

>>3572748
I don't see how the composition of the planet follows from the proximity to the star.

>> No.3572821

>>3572811
Ok, link to the JPG, please
I said "observe directly," in contrast to "observe a star over time and perform calculations to suggest the presence of a planet"

>> No.3572824

>>3572821
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomalhaut_b

>> No.3572844

Power station.
srsly

>> No.3572849

>>3572824
Well shit.
I can't believe this wasn't huge news.
Or maybe it was and I wasn't watching the news in 2008...

>> No.3572851

>>3572824
>>3572821

I think he wants high-def pictures so we can see the little space cruisers making lights across its surface. For now you've gotta settle with infrared heat maps and spectrophotometry.

>> No.3572855

>>3572849
Nothing astronomical that doesn't effect Earth is ever "huge news".

>> No.3572903

Maybe it's a primordial black hole with a new accretion disc just starting to form.

>> No.3573029

>>3572903
No!

>> No.3573296

>>3573029
I didn't mean the black hole was contributing to the low albedo. I meant that if the black hole was near planetary mass and had depleted it's earlier accretion disc, a new accretion disc that was just starting to grow would not have had time to reach lower orbit and high enough temperatures to show.

>> No.3573327

>>3573296
It is not a black hole, it is a gas planet close to the surface of the star.
As an answer to a previous post, it is very rare to find gas giants near a star, since it's massive gravity will take away the hydrogen as to use it for fuel, say it steals the hydrogen before the planet itself is formed, leving just its rocky core.

>> No.3573335

As for my very own theory, I really have no exact idea as for why it is so dark, but it is not a black hole, or a dark matter planet or anything of the likes, it could be because of the gas is something else than just helium or hydrogen, and dense enough that it absorbs light, could be that the luquid cortex of the gas planet is composed of a very opaque liquid and it could also be that there are particles of a very opaque solid that absorbs even more light, what opaque liquid/solid/gas you say? I don't know, could be little floating particles of carbon and it could be some sort of HCl liquid that entraps the light, it could also be that the outer border of the planet is so hoy that it makes the light bouse away, and the light that gets reflected inside to bounce agan towards the planet. (this heat distortion as seen in a pavement road).

But seriously, I have no exact idea.

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3573348

>>3573327
>>3573335
I'm such a dumb shit, I wrote Astrolomer.

>> No.3573357

>>3573327
>since it's massive gravity will take away the hydrogen as to use it for fuel

It's more likely that the solar wind should have blasted it away while it was forming.

>> No.3573360

>>3572632

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/08/110812-new-planet-darkest-black-coal-kipping-science
-space-kepler/

>> No.3573365

>>3573357
I didn't think about that, but you're right, even now, the solar wind would be blowing away the gas, this is indeed an interesting planet.