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>yfw intelligence and rational thought lead to nihilism, depression and ultimately suicide

>> No.3558485

>nihilistfag
>haven't killed myself yet

>> No.3558486

No. If you reason life is meaningless, the next step is that even though everything we are and feel is just an array of chemical messages, we can live life to get the most satisfaction out of those chemicals. Basically doing what feels good.

>> No.3558487

>>3558476

this is why civilization and any sort of advancement ultimately ends up sucking.

ignorance is bliss, retards are happiest, etc.

>> No.3558483

>>3558476
> OP doesn't realize mammals have pretty intricate motivational systems, despite having general intelligence as well; one cannot really do without the other

>> No.3558488
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3558488

thats a bunch of hoopla! just stop being lazy and trust in Christ.

>> No.3558491

You're alive, have a good time, die when it's time

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>>3558476
nope.jpg
>>3558487
nope.jpg
>>3558486
yes.wav
>>3558488
trollingsoftly.png
>>3558491
mehtier.jpg

>> No.3558506

You can actually use your intelligence to solve problems in your life to make it so it doesn't suck.

>> No.3558516

>yfw when even more intelligence and rational thought lead you past nihilism

and >2011
>implying human suffering has no value

Fuck philosophy

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3558520

So that's why all the famous scientists become angst emos? Oh wait, no, they don't.

>> No.3558524

>>3558486
Also, what feels good can be other things than hedonism since we evolved some morality and altruism, as well as a desire for pleasures that require discipline

>> No.3558526

>>3558516
Don't fuck philosophy, fuck posers. Nietzsche actually directly stated that he did not believe nihilism was a good thing but an inevitable phase due to the flaws of religious moral systems that needs to be overcome.

>> No.3558533

>>3558524
So why can I hurt myself? Obviously there are limits to the amount of pain I can withstand, if you applied a thumb screw I would not be able to stop screaming, but I can pinch myself or slap myself even though I don't want to.

I think humans evolved consciousness in large part so we had the ability to put off immediate pleasure for long term goals, any ape can run down a gazelle with a spear but can it plan and think ahead? Maybe there are some emotions involved but we can't feel anxiety about putting off short term pleasure continuously, abstract thoughts are necessary.

>> No.3558548

>>3558526

nietzche also had a mental breakdown after seeing a man beat a horse and died in a mental hospital.

>> No.3558553

>>3558548
The breakdown was caused by the horse beating, not his philosophizing.

>> No.3558558

>mfw suicide is the ultimate act of irrationality
>costanza.jpg

>> No.3558564

>>3558553

The breakdown was caused by syphilis, not the beating.

>> No.3558570

>>3558564
The breakdown was caused by beating a dead horse, not syphilis.

see it's funny because i'm the one beating the dead horse :)

>> No.3558576

It does lead to Nihilism. From there you can
1. Enjoy the empty subjective values you attach to life and enjoy the fruits that this Earth provides to you
2. An-hero

>> No.3558580

>>3558576
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert
false dichotomy between subjective and objective alert

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3558588

>>3558476
>mfw

>> No.3558595

>>3558576
ITT: Objective morality

Laughinganysensibleperson.jpg

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3558601

>mfw nearly everyone is secretly holding out in hope that there is a god and deeper meaning to existence. everyone else an heros.

>> No.3558615

>>3558601
>mfw you're wrong and noone wants to live in an amoral celestial north korea
>mfw carl sagan didn't hold a belief in god
>mfw any existant god would experience the need to feel a god until he reached where there was no preceding god
>mfw we can more easily assume we are in this position
>mfw i have no face but I wanted to prove a point

>> No.3558634

This thread isn't even worth my time.

Read some Kahlil Gibran.

>> No.3558645

>>3558476
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawVulcan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem

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3558675

oh you silly nihilists are so silly! grow up and get a jerb.

>secretly prays to god every night even though thinks of himself as an atheist

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3558802

>god, i know you don't exist and i'm an atheist and everything... but please, PLEASE, help me out this one time.