/sci/ - Science & Math

Here it is gentlemen, a map of our near future as a species. Ignore the water and think of it as a landmass larger than all continents put together, relatively unexploited and containing preindustrial densities of rare earth metals, gold, silver, copper, platinum and more. Then there's the potential for farming.

I was actually going to ask you about the possibility of undersea mining in your last thread. I guess this answers it.

And, to broaden discussion, here is a map of the last frontier on land which is left to us. How will it be divided up? Who gets what, and what new nations will emerge on this unspoiled continent?

>>3556378
OP from the Africa thread here.

You know what that means.

the natives will be fucked

>>3556382

If you think you can claim it be my guest, but the treaty forbidding resource extraction doesn't expire until 2048. Until then it's a race to build settlements so that when the treaty does run out, the nation with the largest and most numerous settlements will have an internationally recognized claim to the continent, or at least large regions of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed08siB6BOE

Here's a video tour of the Amundsen Scott South Pole Station. It's structured similarly to how we'd build a large colony on Mars and represents a likely configuration for civilian antarctic colonies (mainly the families of scientists, soldiers and miners)

Obviously it belongs to us scandinavians. Only we are tough enough to inhabit such hostile land and only we can be the true kings of the great white extents.

I thought there was some treaty that said antartica didn't belong to anyone.

Realistically, I think America is probably the one country who deserves it most...

As long as America remains in control of the Ancient Weapons Platform, I don't care who claims the rest.

lolwat

China will be taking it for sure

it's inevitable really.

Natural resources are dwindling, and the human population continues to grow, and humans demand more consumer items.

Every country sooner or later will start mining the whole entire earth and even the stars.

Any companies that are on the leading edge of undersea mining?

>>3556434

>I thought there was some treaty that said antartica didn't belong to anyone.

Yes, I already mentioned that here: >>3556406

The treaty expires in 2048. Until then nothing legally prevents nations from building settlements so that when the treaty expires they will have a legitimate basis for claiming those resources.

>>3556468

>Any companies that are on the leading edge of undersea mining?

Yes, Nautilus Minerals. They've been mining the Solwara 1 site in Papau, New guinea since 2009. You can bet they'll be the first to those rare earth deposits too.

>>3556468

>Any companies that are on the leading edge of undersea mining?

Yes, Nautilus Minerals. They've been mining the Solwara 1 site in Papau, New guinea since 2009. You can bet they'll be the first to those rare earth deposits too.

>>3556406
>>3556476
I like the style of those buildings. I don't suppose you have any interior pics?

>>3556502

>I like the style of those buildings. I don't suppose you have any interior pics?

I posted a video tour of the interior here: >>3556406

It's like nobody reads my posts, just looks at the pictures.

>>3556509
Sorry, I have a tendency to skim over URLs. Not a great habit.

Interestingly, Buckminster Fuller envisioned domed cities in Antarctica which were comfortably warm inside, heated by electricity from a nuclear reactor.

Not quite on the scale he wanted, but America's primary reseaarch outpost for many decades was the geodesic dome shown in this picture, torn down a few years ago during the construction of the vastly larger and better equipped Amundsen Scott station.

>>3556549
I know that undersea nuclear reactors are gaining popularity as they're essentially submerged in coolant, but what about in the Antarctic? Would they perhaps be buried under the surface, or is that impractical in such a case?

damnit mad
you and these threads
where's my internet enabled hampture observing drone

As I said before on the Anonymous Space Program thread: Anonymous signed no stupid treaty and we are settling Antartica and sea bottom!

>>3556549
do you know if NUSMF is the symbol for Nautilus Minerals on the american trade market?
i couldn't find anything on their webpage

>3 terrestrial frontiers
>deep sea
>Antarctica
>What else?

>>3556777

The deserts. There's a great deal of solar development waiting to be done there.

/tg/ bro interested in science here.

Does this mean the new frontier will not be Space but the cold fringes of Antarctica?

Can we expect to see permanent settlements there?

>>3556948

>Does this mean the new frontier will not be Space but the cold fringes of Antarctica?

Space will be the final frontier, but not the next one.

>Can we expect to see permanent settlements there?

There already are several. Some civilian, most scientific or military.

I was under the impression that treaties had removed the possibility of any country claiming land in Antarctica.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System

Still, very cool. Do want.

>>3556549
I see that Walt Disney's Imagineers have set up EPCOT domes in Antarctica.

When Walt Disney thaws they'll be activated.

"Khanacademy can help. But it might be too time consuming if you watch every video on the lower level stuff.

You don't need to know the details; no one remembers them. Get yourself those sparkcharts and read them all. take a pencil and draw out some things you don't understand. If you come across something difficult consult something more advanced.

Anyways, what you need to know

Algebra: (should take a week)
- Factoring
- Exponents, square roots. How to add them, how to multiply them.
- Log and e

Rest can be done with calculator

Trigonometry: (should take a week)
- know everything about sin, cos, and tan. know the unit circle by heart. know about angles.

geometry: (should take a week)
- know about triangles, circles, rectangles, parallelograms, and trapezoids and each of their properties
- get a list of all the theorems and geometry and memorize them

Once you've mastered all these things, go through khan's calculus. Get stewart's calculus and go through odd or even (you pick) problems and SKIP THE ONES THAT ARE REPETITIVE, DO THE PROBLEMS THAT USE NOVEL/UNIQUE. Do NOT do the hard ones, or the proofs, unless you have time.

The first part of calculus is the most important, but i think khan can help you greatly with that. You need to know about graphs and all their damn details. There are 18 chapters in stewarts, and each should take about 1-2 weeks if you do reading/khan, then spend 90 minutes a day doing work. Finally, pick up Strang's linear algebra book and spend 1-2 months on it.

But.... it's not worth it unless you do it for course credit or go beyond. however, vectors do have their roles in computer graphics and other things with computer programming, so I highly suggest taking up computer programming as a hobby because you'll be able to apply the stuff you learned to it.

So in one year you'll have an entire education up to sophomore in college if you dedicate 2 hours a day to learning math."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

We're nearing Type I status, and that will bring a terrible grab for resources.

>>3557127

Think you posted in the wrong thread there bro.

>>3557215
No he didnt. Khanacademy will have a large presence on antartica

>>3557234

If he's still teaching intelligent design I hope he stays there

>>3556576
The United States already tried operating a fission reactor at McMurdo.
"PM" stood for "portable, medium output reactor." This was a "pressurized water reactor" which circulated one loop of water near the reactor core, and heat exchangers transferred the heat to a second water loop which drove a turbine..
It went on line producing useful power for McM on about 12 July 1962, although its reliablility was poor for the first few years. In fact, late in 1962 there was a small fire in the containment vessel due to hot hydrogen from decomposing water. The plant was officially rated at 1800 KW "gross" but its nominal "net" power generation capability for McMurdo was 1250 KW.
This plant was shut down in September, 1972, after wet insulation was observed around the reactor pressure vessel, presumably due to leakage in the shield coolant water piping.
plant was shut down in September, 1972. chloride stress corrosion cracking was suspected, it would have been necessary to disassemble everything to inspect for cracks, and that was not practical.
http://www.southpolestation.com/env/env1.html

>>3556576
The big problem with polar nuclear reactors would be they are too damn hot and might melt, though there has been research done on land based prototypes such as Idaho's older research reactor. It could be done however.

>>3557311
cretin. Watch the video.

>>3557341

>The big problem with polar nuclear reactors would be they are too damn hot and might melt

Clearly this man is an expert

>>3557440
The originally proposed location for the (nuclear) plant was on Hut Point Peninsula, but as that would have required a foundation on permafrost rather than bedrock, the actual site on the side of Observation Hill was selected. (rock and dirt)
~ http://www.southpolestation.com/env/env1.html

>>3557440
I believe NeoBlack is an ex-Navy nuclear pile operator.(Hi, Neo, I'm the forward puke from the other day, helping out with my Google-fu)
He might know a thing or two about nuclear power plants and such as that.

>>3557539

>I believe NeoBlack is an ex-Navy nuclear pile operator

On the internet, everyone's an expert on whatever the topic happens to be.

>>3557549
We participated in a thread the other day, in which he proved his bona fides to me. Take that however you like.
>I am aware of all internet traditions

ALL OF MY WANT. The joint territories of antarctica and the ocean floor will become the industrial and economic powerhouse of the future.

Hope we use those resources to colonize the moon and mars though because if we just sit around using them up on Earth, that's it, no more resources.

>>3557615
As soon as I can get to the moon I will start the Matrioshka brain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrioshka_brain
Then no fool can stop me Muahahahaha!
Then we get nanotech utility fog and ultratech space propulsion to the next star.