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Early, rough estimates released in a report this week suggest the SLS / MPVC program would cost $40 or more billion over the next decade. This would cover the cost of development, an unmanned flight no sooner than 2017, and perhaps a single manned flight around 2020.

Can we PLEASE stop with this cost-plus, public LV crap now?

>> No.3518645

1. Stop sending money to third world
2. Stop sending troops to third world
3. Focus NASA on one specific goal in the next decade, i.e. Mars
4. ...
5. PROFIT

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>> No.3519236

We should have double-tapped Constellation the first time we put it down. Then we wouldn't have wasted 18 months with this SLS shit.

>> No.3519247

>>3518725
IMO it's just a question of how far forward you are extrapolating to estimate your ROI. Expanding through the universe DOES make economic sense, but it's a VERY long-term investment.

>> No.3519260

>>3519247

Tell that to the morons worried about the stock prices tomorrow and getting re-elected in 4 years.
Democracy and capitalism are preventing us from planning long-term. Look at China, the only reason they're slowly but surely overtaking the rest of the world is that their regime permits long term planning and ours does not.

>> No.3519268

>>3519260
I agree that "who does the long term planning?" really has me worried. Greedy algorithms are suboptimal, to say the least.

Still, we ARE funding basic research like the LHC. Right?

>cries

>> No.3519397

Homo sapiens is not a space-fairing species. Shipping these criminally inefficient, stupidly fragile forms around and trying to terraform planets to meet their needs, it's a joke. Evolution would have moved on in the time terraforming would take (people would have evolved to meet the intermediary stages... and might find themselves dying off in the new world they had been fighting for, if this trend was not accounted for). We need each individual to be a closed circuit taking in only the occasional bit of sustenance (and sunlight for power, but that's no problem even on mars). This is not only possible but would happen in an instant (less than a decade) if the destructive 'social planning' (ie. world communism, stasis-worship) was abandoned.