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>The amount the U.S. military spends annually on air conditioning in Iraq and Afghanistan: $20.2 billion, according to a former Pentagon official.

>That's more than NASA's budget. It's more than BP has paid so far for damage from the Gulf oil spill. It's what the G-8 has pledged to help foster new democracies in Egypt and Tunisia.

Is there any hope for space exploration?

>> No.3506439

>>3506423
Not in the near future unfortunately.

>> No.3506445

>>3506439
How near?
Im confident we'll see the Chinese on mars first.

>> No.3506448

china will not go to mars within the next 100 years

>> No.3506454

thats my country yearly budget

>> No.3506455

You have any idea how fucking hot it gets over there? You do know we have like 130,000 troops over there, right? You have any idea how much it costs to make to cool a small area in 120 degree heat? That figure is NOT surprising.

>> No.3506456

>>3506448
Nor will America, whats your point?

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/sci/, it's up to us.

>> No.3506477

>>3506423

Air conditioning. Fucking stupid americans

>> No.3506485

>>3506455
>over there
Where you should't be.

>> No.3506488

>>3506485
you're preaching to the choir man

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>>3506488

>> No.3506497

>>3506456
i was addressing the previous post, whereas i never said anything about america going to mars dipshit but no they wont be there either, fucking retard

>> No.3506501

>>3506485
No fucking shit, you want an award? You think the American populace WANTS to be over there? No. You can thank Bush and the mainstream media for that baby.

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>>3506501
>>3506497
Guys, guys. Calm your nips.

>> No.3506515

>>3506497
>>3506501
>explain facts as I see them (even if they happen to be "anti American"
>Americans instantly chuck a fit over what I said
yep.
>I dont think all Americans are like this by any means btw.

>> No.3506525

>>3506515
whats ur point? do you see what i did there you blind fucking idiot its the same shit you did earlier to my post. and guess what im not american, congratulations dumb fuck

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>>3506525

>> No.3506536

>$20.2 billion
That figure isn't accurate. Also, the former Pentagon official who produced that report shills for a company that sells energy efficient branded equipment to the US military. It would have been in his interest to exaggerate the figures.

That's not to say waste doesn't exist, but I don't think you'll find much of it in air conditioning.

>> No.3506549

>>3506536
Any idea on what the figure is? If its anything over 500 million then its beyond fucking retarded.

>> No.3506558

>>3506549
Then you DON'T wanna know the number spent on the wars in the Middle East over the past decade.

>> No.3506563

>>3506558
I know. For the price of all the cruise missiles dropped we could have a moon base by now.

>> No.3506564

>Legalize Marijuana
>Tax It
>Use money from those taxes just for space program.
We would be on mars before 2021

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3506568

SpaceX
ULA
SpaceDev
Bigelow Aerospace
Ad Astra Rocket Company
Reaction Engines Ltd.

/thread

>> No.3506571

>>3506568
How many astronauts do they have?

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>>3506564
I can get behind this.

>> No.3506580

>>3506568
How many successful missions have they completed?

>> No.3506590

>>3506571
>>3506580

Manned exploration is poop, send robots. Those companies above will go for space tourism 340-400 km high

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>>3506590
"Oh look, we now know all about our solar system!"
"...."
"Okay, so what serious practical use can we find for all this data?"
"Err... Well, we could start space colonization of the-"
"QUIET YOU FOOL, LORD ANONYMOUS WILL HAVE YOUR TONGUE. THAT CONCEPT IS FORBIDDEN"

>> No.3506598

>>3506590
they should go for moon tourism

>> No.3506603

>>3506598
Slated for 2015
http://www.space.com/11584-space-tourism-private-moon-flights-details.html

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3506606

1) Vote for Ron Paul in 2012
2) Brings all troops home
3) Cut Billions in Spending
4) ?????
5) Profit

>> No.3506607

>>3506603
And flying cars were slated for the year 2000. I am skeptical.

>> No.3506608

>>3506607

>airplanes
>helicopters

>> No.3506609

>>3506597

Get practical, theres no reason to colonize space, will not even be one in 100 years

>> No.3506611

>>3506606
I heard somewhere that Ron Paul wishes to cut all public schools, and leave education to private organizations. nothx.

And I prefer Dennis Kucinich.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFabLp-Jcbg

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>>3506609
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining
>At 1997 prices, a relatively small metallic asteroid with a diameter of 1 mile contains more than $20 trillion US dollars worth of industrial and precious metals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Earth_Objects#Near-Earth_asteroids
>As of May 2010, 7,075 near-Earth asteroids are known,[14] ranging in size up to ~32 kilometers (1036 Ganymed).[16] The number of near-Earth asteroids over one kilometer in diameter is estimated to be 500 - 1,000.

LFTRs are great, but I do think we'll also outstrip the energy they can sustainably produce.

Earth-based solar has a few major pitfalls:
Baseload power: For about 12 hours, no sunlight. Batteries to store excess energy are impractical.
Weather: Clouds fuck your shit up, yo
Location: It would be nice if everywhere got the same energy as the Sahara. Unfortunately most of civilization seems to be located around the 40 degree latitude mark.

With space-based solar, the benefits are grand. Since there is no atmosphere, the panels receive 4 to 10 times more power than Earth-based ones do. No weather either. Since the panels are in geosynchronous orbit they stay direct sunlight 99% of the time.
And the transmission of electricity to the surface can be done with microwaves that interact with the atmosphere very little, making the efficiency losses about 2%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power

The reason why you live, the reason why we have oil and coal, the reason why Earth doesn't have a frozen landscape covered by frozen nitrogen and carbon dioxide over rock-hard ice fields encompassing the planet, is because of our sun. Our sun that is also 150,000,000 kilometers away. The yellow dwarf that is literally dwarfed by the supergiants we have discovered.

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>>3506611
MFW public schools are run by state governments.

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>>3506622
>mfw theres virtually no difference in systems in my country and public ones are usually better