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Alright so it seems that more and more creationists are becoming aware of laminin. I have several christian "friends" that are always trying to win me over so that i could become christian and believe in God.

I know that next time i see them they'll probably broach the subject of laminin and be all "IT'S SOLE PURPOSE IS TO KEEP THE CELL TOGETHER, AND IT'S SHAPED LIKE A CROSS."


How can i counter their argument so that it sounds more plausible that it's just a part of evolution (if anything).

All the sights i go to to do some research on it just talk about "Is this a sign of God" hurr durr, never anything scientific.


TL;DR How to counter creationists debate about laminin


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>> No.3363481
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3363481

"you're retarded, go kill yourself"

That ought to do it, OP.

>> No.3363495

>>3363481


needs to be more germane.

>> No.3363504

ask them, if the cross was the sign of jesus, does that mean jesus was always cross? doesn't this contradict the bible?

>> No.3363519
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OP here, the only thing i can think of is:

So when laminin is in a natural shape, it doesn't really look much like a cross. Sometimes it's a plus sign, other's it's an awkward "X", then occasionally you do get something that somewhat resembles a cross.

But if you look at a diagram of laminin, it's a for sure cross.


So let's say that if i looked at a map of the world, does this mean that Earth is for sure flat? But though when i look at a globe which represents Earth in it's natural shape, it's definitely not flat.


would that be any good?

>> No.3363521

>>3363504
Ask them if it means Satan is involved when the cross is upside down.

>> No.3363536

>>3363521

dat ignorance.

>> No.3363547

Well the basic cross shape is formed by a long A chain and two B chains. However the B chains spiral around the A chain, which looks more like the Caduceus than anything else.

Tell them that if they see the Cross and therefore Jesus exists, you see the Caduceus and so Hermes, and by extension the entire pantheon, exists.

>> No.3363564

Tell them they are made by satan to test humanities faith in atheism.

>> No.3363583
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3363583

>mfw this article
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v3/n1/laminin-and-the-cross

If you forgive the whole believing in scripture thing, this person is actually trying to be intelligent.

>> No.3363582

>>3363547

that could work, but i feel they'll be to ignorant to listen to what i have to say in the first place.

>> No.3363585

Tell them your penis looks like a banana.
Which means you are the sole creator of the banana tree.

>> No.3363587

/sci/ - atheist teen advice

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>>3363458
They serious? that god made this a component of cells, because its cross shaped, because jesus died on a cross?

well, jesus only died on a cross because crucifiction was an execution method at the time. if romans had invented an electric chair, ccatholic shoolgirls would be wearing minature electric chairs around their necks instead, (and presumably laminin would be a very complicated 'electric chair shape'.
so what about before jesus? did cavemen NOT have laminin? did god in his omniscience always PLAN for jesus to die on a cross?

the whole thing seems ridiculous to me, brah.

>> No.3363610

>>3363582
Well show them a diagram FROM A CHRISTIAN WEBSITE of the structure of laminin. Make sure they acknowledge that is its true structure. Then point out the curling B1 and B2 chains. Connect this to the Caduceus and inform them of Hermes.

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>>3363593

thank you, i don't know why i didn't think of that.

I need to get a trip.

here's an ass for your generous input

>> No.3363633
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>>3363593
>>3363617

That is horrendous samefagging. "I need to get a trip." are you kidding me?

>> No.3363642

>>3363593
>did god in his omniscience always PLAN for jesus to die on a cross?

Yes, this is part of christian beliefs
Jesus died "in accordance with the Scriptures"
i.e. it was predicted

>> No.3363645

>>3363633


oh but you're wrong.

I was simply saying that as a joke because it's a stereotype that all tripfags have all of the answers.

well, that's how it works on /fit/, i dunno about /sci/

>> No.3363662

>>3363645
Actual fit people don't go on /fit/
/fit/ is for douches, guidos, roid fanatics and gym rat scum.

Shame on you.

>> No.3363672

>>3363662

it's useful for dieting charts, recipes, and bulking routines.


Not everyone on /fit/ is a clueless summerfriend

>> No.3363675

Wow I read the wiki page when I read the start of your post expecting something serious and interesting related to evolution of the protein or something.
Then I read the rest of your post and find out it's just because it looks vaguely like a cross.
I am somewhat disappointed.

>> No.3363685
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>>3363662
I browse /fit/, and I'm a pretty swell guy tbh.

>> No.3363686

>>3363675

I wish

>> No.3363691
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>>3363672
>bulking routine

>> No.3363697

>>3363642
Yeah. This is the part of prophecy which most closely corresponds to crucifixion:

"For dogs encompass me;
a company of evildoers encircles me;
they have pierced my hands and feet"
(Psalm 22:16)

Psalm 22 in its entirety is a prophecy about Christ — or is regarded as such within Christianity, to be objective about it.

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>>3363691

yes. as in bulking diet

>> No.3363706

>>3363701
>>>/fit/
Please I came here for a break from this crap.

>> No.3363707

>>3363458
IT's clearly not shaped like a cross.

Also, if there is one that even remotely looks like a cross, a cross is a pretty damn simple symbol. It's really no surprise that that they might think that. They're just looking for patterns in the sand.

>> No.3363716

>>3363707
b-but the diagram drawn by scientists looks kind of like a cross if I look really hard at it

>> No.3363731

>>3363707
>>3363707


right. it's just so hard to debate with someone that has their head so far up their ass.

Now i can understand why Dawkins doesn't hesitate to be harsh with some of his answers to creationists.

>> No.3363767

>>3363731
I'm having a hard time telling what you're upset about. Are you being sarcastic and you really don't like my answer, or are you disagreeing. If so, why?

>> No.3363775

>>3363767

i'm agreeing with you and just overall upset with people who are so devout to christianity but are too afraid to ask the "what ifs" that make them uncomfortable, then they just ignore it.

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>>3363701
Sorry, let me make it abundantly clear.
>pointless machofaggotry
>implying bulk means shit to strength
>tying sense of self-worth into worthless muscle bulk
>tons of effort and time for no purpose.
full retard.