/sci/ - Science & Math

> I won't join any cult because I don't know how to utilize their inner structures to gain power.

You also don't know how to start your own cult. The former might be easier.

>>3271713
If I just join scientology I won't ever make it to the top!

Are there any really small cults I could try to overtake? How do I find small cults?

bump

yeh, this shit was probably easier to do 2000 years ago when people were far more retarded.
L ron hubbard got lucky

..only in america could he have had a fucking chance to pull that shit off...

>science board
>wants to start a cult (inherently non-scientific)

fuck off

I'm to lazy to read the bible.

Are there other, shorter scriptures I could use to construct a beliefsystem with me in the center?

Sounds like fun. Please search & share resources.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/cult.htm

>Building Your Cult: Power, Politics and People
http://www.amazon.com/Building-Your-Cult-Politics-People/dp/1450590837/ref=sr_1_15?s=books&ie=UT
F8&qid=1308834605&sr=1-15

>Soul Snatchers: The Mechanics of Cults
http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Snatchers-Mechanics-Jean-Marie-Abgrall/dp/189294104X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&a
mp;s=books&qid=1308834556&sr=1-2

>>3271752
>wants to start a cult (inherently non-scientific)
But you do understand that you could turn anything into a cult?

You could turn anything related to science into a cult, making scientists some sort of priests.

>capcha
>repothou Israel

>>3271755
K.I.S.S version: "Have faith in me. Your eyes can deceive you. We must protect our beliefs."

The "beliefs" can be whatever bullocks you make up. Look at Scientology.

Get into homeopathy. Your patients will revere you like a god and you get to sell them vials of distilled water for vast sums of money, and you'll be treating one of the biggest problems in society (namely that stupid people have too much money).

>>3271755
troll?
the bible obviously doesnt have YOU as the center. you will have to start your own cult from scratch.
If)you)wish_to_make_an_apple_pie.jpg

>>3271800
Aren't there any characters in the bible I could use? Muslims have the "Mahdi" but I doubt any muslim would accept a convert as a holy figure and I don't want to get circumcised.

>>3271765
Simply put:

1- Break down victim's sense of self utilizing any anxiety imaginable.
2- Construct the desired personality with social dynamics and behaviorism (reward/punish).
3- Maintain constructed personality & regulate information resources.
4- Make examples out of quitters. Destroy them.
5- ??????
6- Profit.

>>3271830
just do the whole mormon thing, making a whole new cult from scratch is a lot of work, just tag on some bullshit onto the end of christianity.
"hurr durr, some angel visited me, we now have some extra stories about god and stuff, and some extra rules you guys all have to follow. the angel said it is my job to lead you out of he darkness, have faith brothers! we shall overcome!" etc etc.

>>3271830
You could just run with the line that the awesome holy power of Allah will sterilise your otherwise-heathen form to prepare you for your role, or that your parents as kaffir didn't realise who you were.

>>3271850
what happens if i join scientology and then quit it? what would they do?

>>3271796
I don't think homeopathy is that bad. The spread of conventional medicine has led to a weakening of the western genepool.

Selfadministered eugenics cold be a solution.

About 10 or 11 years ago I went to a bar where my brother's girlfriend (now wife) used to live. After 1 hour or so I notice a group of people started gathering there. Thats when I saw a meeting of this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Luis_de_Jes%C3%BAs_Miranda

He is supposedly a millionaire now, got a lot of criticism on TV a couple of years ago.

Basically what you need to do is sell hope and faith to hopeless and low educated people. And steadily work from there. If this guy started on street corners and cheap bars anyone with people skills and salesmanship can start a cult.

>>3271719
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)is Scientology without the retarded church fuck ups. You can create you're own Scientology church or be a Scientologist using their materials however you please.

Maybe dash in a little http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Para-Scientology to boot

1. Initiation vs. Instruction
2. Being Accessible
3. Imply Secret Knowledge
4. Remaining calm as if all-knowing
5. Create a detached involvement as if “you” are in a “higher place”
6. Connect deeply with the individual
7. “Chunk Up” whenever possible
8. Always allude to the mysterious
9. God-Like Confidence
10. Appeal to peoples needs and wants

Derren Brown might be a professional troll, but check out Miracles for Sale. The faith healer crowd have followers that deify them, and they're seriously fucking rich. They're obviously doing something right.

>>3271752
>Is a ignorant commoner who doesn't understand the majority of the better lunches are cult like.
> Has never been to college & there forth doesn't know what a greek mystery school is like.
>gtfo science newbie.

>>3271855
Don't know. A determined cult leader would torture you to death, film the whole thing and then make doubtful minions watch it.

>>3271706
The modern way to start a cult would be to employ Neuro-linguistic programming. All of the best businesses borrow from Neuro-linguistic programming to boost their sales. Mix in new employ teams. Sale 401k's that'll never amount to much. etc

>>3271888
>lunches
what?

>>3271901
>Clearly has never been asked to a team leader lunchen.
>Clearly has never been golfing with his father.
>Clearly has not a fucking clue.

>>3271895
lol, i cant imagine scientologists doing that.
i thought they just follow you around and call you a criminal. =p

>>3271909
Scientology is Americans only self created religion. Scientology is the only religion america has created thus far.

>>3271913
America ≠ USA

America has had a lot of religious groups.

>>3271909
Like I said, I don't know what they do. I gave an extreme, imaginary example to make it clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E
Try this

Scientology made easy.
You're a pre-clear until you learn how to fully utilize your mind and then you're clear. You, You're thetan has powers to remote view and project itself over long distances to listen in or make things happen. Both the CIA and NSA have looked into these possibilities when in Scientology.

The power of a Clear thetan is MEST (Mater, Energy, Space & Time) once you can control these things life becomes easier.

Also the number 1 goal of life is Fun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_(Scientology) this is why Scientology is adept at life gaming games. All the top brass are always gaming others as it's something to do at the top!

Also Xenu is a fake TR (training routine) the wall of fire is a purification actuality. At OT8 operating thetan level 8 you learn not only that Xenu was a fake run down but OT8 is the first actual OT level.

>>3271930
>If it's on youtube it must be true!

>>3271938
(◕︵◕)
are you stalking me or are several people acting like argumentative kids today?

>>3271913
There are thousands of small time cults. To register a religion. You only need 3 people to register an untaxed religious corporation.

>>3271946
We are the NSA. And our job is to make sure no one here has any real cred. Our job is to fag up certain threads beyond belief

>>3271953
breaking the law by impersonating a federal agent?
*tuts*

>>3271937
>At OT8 operating thetan level 8 you learn not only that Xenu was a fake run down but OT8 is the first actual OT level.
Holy shit. That's some old-school trolling right there.

>>3271958
Sorry we are not at fault for any Acronyms and initialisms you misunderstand.

>tis tis with a side of tut for not being a law major like me!

>>3271963
>impersonating a law major
also sage, because this is adding nothing to the board.

>>3271963
TIL OP is a fag.

>>3271965
>Believes sage actually does something lulz

>>3271967
>believes it doesn't lulz
how has your first day been?

>>3271969
How do you feel using tripcode explorer to generate you a newfag trip code? Namegoeshere#andpasswordhere

>>3271970
Well, that hurts
and is irrelevant and wrong
How do you feel about having a problem with people who use tripcode explorer?

>>3271977
How do you feel about people like me with the money and contacts to have some of the hottest shell accounts around? And to not give a fuck about you or anyone else here?

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/computational-mind/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_theory_of_mind

I wonder if I can start with youtube subscribers.

>>3271979
I feel nostalgia, mainly.

>>3271984
shall we create a new irc chan or go old school with a darknet bbs system. newb!

>>3271986
I'm creating a GUI interface in Visual Basic to get your IP as we speak, prepare to be backtraced.

>>3271989
>Doesn't know what a shell account is!
>Doesn't understand the teleportational power of multi linked shell accounts.
>Doesn't understand how to properly hack web code via greasemonkey and scripts.

Go back in the kitchen and fix me a cup of coffee (Although I know you're the kinda person who could totally fuck up a cup of coffee) Light on the piss k?

>>3271993
A shell account gives you money from oil sales idiot
don't even have any teleporting power.
>implying I can't use google code and my HTML hacking knowledge to infiltrate your RAM and not even need the internet

>>3272000
>Doesn't know some people use AES256 encryption on their ram processes.
>Is still a clueless bastard about shell accounts!

>>3272001
AES256, so called because you take one look, turn 256 degrees and walk away. No, wait ...

>>3272001
well WTF do u think shell accounts ar then I'm 1337 m8 i kno cos i hav 1 i tuk down PSN by myself LULZ

dnt care abut ur RAM cos I hav a intel i3 processor so i can bruut force it rly fast

>>3272006

>>3272007
Clearly you're mentally ill. Also your opinions mean what here?

>>3272012
your* and I'm only reciprocating.

>>3272014
http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You're-and-Your

>Clearly isn't a english major! lulz

>>3272017
>clearly can't identify trolls! lulz
see correct usage here:
>>3271969

>>3272022
>Clearly is a summerfag who wishes he was a oldfag but is really a newfag!

>>3272025
Quite.

>>3272022
Dude you look and talk like a idiot. Please leave. I've already reported your tripcode like 20 times now. Not long until your stupid ass is banned!

>>3272029

>>3272030
>I've already reported your tripcode like 20 times now.
wat

>>3272036
>standing up for me
again, wat
this thread is a clusterfuck of failure, I'm leaving and pretending it never happened.

>>3272030
lol faggot, no1 is listening and no1 gives a fuck.

>>3271969

>>Initial Sage post to not bump thread
>>Two non sage posts in regards to the sage post bumping thread twice
>> hhhhhhmmmmmmm

Why the fuck did you just destroy my thread???

You are real assholes, right? Assholes!

>>3272112

>>3272136
I am no asshole! I just want to start a cult with a small harem for me.

if you have to ask you obviously don't have the manipulative talent to do it. Give up you failure.