/sci/ - Science & Math

That people died of obsolete diseases like cancer and running with scissors. Hopefully, and with a lot of luck, the world will have moved out of religious fundamentalism, but that's just dreaming.

Pain and ignorance

>>3228033
I can't help but think that cancer would be seen as a very small issue compared to many others. Surely there are other medical problems we would see as worse? Tuberculosis, or malaria, for example.


>>3228052
You're going to have to be more specific, I think.

"Every year six million people died in car crashes. Nowadays we would call that a war!"

The rampant homophobia.
Religion.

What do you mean gay couples couldn't get married? What do you mean creationism was taught in school?

Oh wait, the last one was only on USA and that will probably get even worse in 2050. Enjoy your 6000 year old Earth, americans.

>>3228061
This the fact that people in the past had to drive their own cars will be fucking mindblowing to the youth of the future

Then I do a post because it's my thread and I can do what I want apparently. Sounds interesting.

I think the thing we will see as most repulsive will depend upon the course china takes with regards to Africa, and I know too little about China's foreign policy to comment. If China and India decide to aid nations in extreme poverty, such as those in Africa, then we will quickly grow to see our past actions with regards to the continent as disgustingly primitive and greedy. If they decide to not intervene, on the other hand, our attitudes will stay much the same.


2125/general future predictions are also welcome, I should say now.

>>3228083
actually that made me think

it wouldn't surprise me if the thing they're disgusted at is how first world nations just let genocides happen like... all the friggin' time

I'm pretty sure there's like... more than one happening, right now, except that everyone has more or less forgotten once it stopped being news

>>3228025

4chan

>>3228061
Quite :/

Alcohol will be controversial at the least, I think. The need for its consumption is completely gone now, and it's definitely harmful.What I would <span class="math">{like}[/spoiler] to see is laws exempting you from reception of free healthcare for twice the effective period of any drug, and for all drugs to be made legally obtainable through pharmacies along with information on their effects.

>implying the world won't end by then

Probably obesity, diabetes, the continent of africa being completely thrown into hell, balkan regions, the middle east especially by that time documents will be unclassified by the government n shit

>>3228025

liberals

>>3228109
Apocalypse? in my civilisation? it could be more likely than you think.
It's possible there could be a serious meteor collision 6,12, or 18 years after 2032. Other possibilities are that nuclear war between North Korea/Iran and the west could break out, or that x number of other things happen. That's the problem with giving simple creatures really big guns.

>>3228098
From Zimbabwe, information has almost completely stopped as we have lost interest. The last thing I heard of the situation was that Mugabe and Nmoko were not getting on, and that Nmoko had been arrested (Nmoko was the opposition leader, who Mugabe had not let take office).

Homophobia
Nigger culture

>>3228083

>China and India decide to aid nations in extreme poverty

western countries give billions of dollars for nothing to afric, some african countries get more than half of their income from western donations

chinese dont give a fuck about peacyful wuvy-wuv, they are building an empire and they dont give a fuck abut genocide either

>>3228025

Capitalism and exploitation of the working class.

>>3228133

Africa gives back aid to the Western world, in the form of ridiculous amounts of natural resources.

>>3228098

>west intervenes

>BAAAW FUKIN RACIS WHITES ALWAYS INTERFERING WITH OUR BEAUTIFUL INDEPENDEDNT BLACK CULTURE

>west lets niggers kill eachothers with AKs and machetes

>OMG U RACIS WHITES HOW CAN U BE SO IGNORANT AND HATEFUL AFIRCA NEEDS HELP U GREDY FUKS!!!

Neo-imperialism is going to make a stylish comeback when we run out of oil.

i think we already exaggerate every type of behavior as "unacceptable" to some degree in the west. the most savage thing might be how calculated the relationship between corporations and their people are. everything is based on shitty statistics and centered around massive unnecessary profits. some companies deserve to be empires, and its far from "all rich people are assholes," but relative to other potential issues i see it as the most overwhelming in this context (unless nothing changes in 50 years, which is hard to predict).

we've still got savagery in the middle east and parts of africa which probably won't end anytime soon, and maybe we'll look at all this pseudo-thug activity that spread through music/tv as pretty shitty, but really this question is pointless (or maybe just too complicated for what it's worth) to science and to people who enjoy looking at things through a scientific approach. this generation has accomplished enormously productive things, and the future looks even more promising.

>>3228138

Its called trade. They dont HAVE to sell their resources but they CHOSE to do.

I laugh at liberals always glorifying the "FREE MARKUT MAEKS FREEDUM!!!!" and how they immediatly going fussy after seeing it in action.

>>3228133
I think their leader is a hipster, he announced in parliament that he valued free speech. Gah, so ironic.

From extensive skimming of a paragraph on wikipedia I can say that China is actively trading with africa and is the Third largest trading partner after the US and France (who have former colonies to support). They export more than everyone except the US to the continent.

Another example of an unmonitored Dictatorship: Ethiopia, who are trying to get the help <span class="math">of[/spoiler] Mugabe to get rid of their leader, Mengistu.

>>3228136
I agree. The things we take are not necessarily those which a country needs to develop, though.

>>3228136

This.

Also, simultaneous deregulation and bailout guarantees for banks.

>>3228025
democracy as moral/ethical.

>>3228150

you're confusing the american definition of 'liberal' (ie socialist) with the classical definition of 'liberal' (ie libertarian, neoliberal).

Our horrible misuse of fossil fuels.

debauched homosexuality
alcohol and drug use
obesity
religion
a large chunk of diseases

one can hope

>>3228151
>>3228136

>nationalization of key companies while still promoting competition

>upholding national values

>curbing the international profiteering banker class

>trying to stop the bolshevik cancer killing socialism

>grand plans to reform the entire earth into a unified country

I cant hear you over how right nazism was. Only if they werent be the designated Snidely Whiplash cartoon evils in the media....

>>3228162

plutocracy as moral/ethical

religion, and believing that all races are no different from one another.

>>3228025
>What will we look back on in disgust in 2050?

Our treatment of transexuals, pedophiles, gays and furries.

>>3228172

Don't kid yourself; the nazis didn't want to stop exploitation, they were just out to kill the jews.

Look at IG Farben, worse than any of today's multinationals.

>>3228175

>mfw when people still cant tell racism and culturalism apart

>mfw people dont know how western culture is assraping tribal culture in south america and africa right now

>>3228145
With all due respect, that's wrong. The west has been responsible for so much damage to Africa, in terms of resource removal and of forced imperialism, that there is no way we can blame them for the situation they are in.
Perhaps if we hadn't taken 300 years worth of citizens then forced authority over them for a further 150, Africa would have less problems with dem crackaz trying to help out.
>>3228150
I have no words so I'll use a link.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2007/02/nigerian-oil/oneill-text
just... No.
>>3228155
While I agree that the capitalism we have now will be seen as almost feudal in future, 1) I don't believe it to be in as few as 40 years, and 2) I believe capitalism will continue to function in some forms. As for the bailouts, I agree they will be seen as incredibly bad financial decisions, despite the fact they were needed.

>>3228168
Quite. The camp ones in starbucks who complain about how their hairdresser Stefan has bad breath are not the ones who hide their homosexuality by masturbating furiously to hand drawn images of Ayn rand.

Prioritised, I think this is probably what I believe will be seen as simplistic

1) Lack of medical treatment in the third world (and/or the massive imbalance of wealth along borders worldwide)
2) Lack of foresight by western nations in terms of debt
3)Free market capitalism as a basis for society rather than an element of it

>>3228179

The average german worker wer much better paid than the averag american or british worker during the war. Not for jewish war prisoners though.

Also, the nazis had a fuckhuge plan. if they would have suceeded by 2100 the only existing language would be german and the entire world would consist of various germanic substates of Grossdeutchland.

Even the soviets had the whole world revolution thing going on until stalin became a limp dick about it.

I just hate how wishy-washy and bleached inoffensive most current day westerners are. Dwindling population, fat, depressed and uninspired population and every white either has white guilt or a raging idiot skinhead.

The socially accepted and encouraged lifelong mistreatment of pedosexuals

To be quite honest, I think we'll look back on this day and age with absolute disgust. All of it.

From dumping nuclear, to vote pandering, to attacks on freedom and rights, to giving megacorporations everything they want, on and on and on.

We might be more technologically advanced than ever before in human history, but we're living in the goddamn dark ages of culture and freedoms again. I really really hope a new renaissance is coming. We need revolutions and out of this hell hole of corporatist policies and pandering to religious morons.

>>3228182
The living standards under colonisation were the highest they ever were. The colonists brought civility to those monkeys.
>>3228195
>3)Free market capitalism as a basis for society rather than an element of it
There are very few people who actually support free market capitalism now. I hope we'll see a progression to where it is accepted.

Capitalism, we will look back at capitalism in disgust in 2050

>>3228182
I like you man. You funny.

Also, to contribute, probably global climate change. They won't soon forget the oncoming shitstorm.

Using coal plants and hydrocarbon powered motors will be regarded as ridiculous.

We'll probably look back at abortion (the leading cause of death of children) with disgust.

>>3228202
This is the problem, the Issue of killing 9 million people in the process. If it were possible to start a new National Socialist movement like the Nazi's, without a primary angle of attack through war, or a need for the persecution of a minority group, I would fully support it. If only because the kiloton tank looked awesome.
>Dwindling population
Nope, that's a myth.
>fat
Yep
>Depressed
Kind-of. Blasphemy though it may be, I think Depression is just better diagnosed/more freely diagnosed than it has been in the past, rather than inexplicably more prevalent.
>uninspired
I wouldn't call you that, the west make all kinds of awesome stuff.
>white guilt or skinhead
That's a simplification, now, isn't it.

>>3228182

zimbabweans, once the biggest food exporter in africa now is in a permament state of hunger uprisings and depends on western aid

why? because those smartass niggers burned or chased away the farmers from all farms owned and operated by white zimbabweans because they were HURR DURR WHITE EBULS and now they blame the white3s for their hunger too

you simply cant fix africa, they will ALWAYS blame the whites for EVERYTHING

just look at europe at WW2,germany, hungary, poland, ukraine, all bombed, burned, pillaged with tens of millions of dead and they rebuilt most of it and the completely destroyed infrastructure in two decades, eastern europe even done without western aid so dont say me that african countries couldnt get their shit together while billions of dollars and lot of skileld foreign contractors are being funneled into their pockets, they are simply unwilling to grow up, stop the tribal wars and stop blaming THE MAN

>>3228216
I want to believe you so badly.

It'll either exist in some new horrible form or we'll all be dead.

>>3228225
The vast majority of "aid" to africa consists of shit that destroy s any possibility of them creating their own economy.

Why start farming in Africa when the West ships hundreds of tons of food to you, for free? How does a farmer even compete against that kind of price?

Same deal with textiles, electronics, etc. etc.

We're making Africa worse by giving them shit.

>>3228025

Gay rights, probably. Hopefully we'll look back with disgust at the burning of coal and oil to generate electricity. Work on the polywell continues quietly.

>>3228209
Do you mean the mistreatment as a society, or the mistreatment medically? While I don't support legalising paedophillic relationships or lowering ages of consent below 15, I agree absolutely that Paedophiles should be treated by doctors rather than as criminals by choice. The attitudes I see today are identical to those given to homosexuals in the past, and normally justified by disgust rather than reason.

>>3228210
I don't really have anything of value to say in response, other than that I think I agree with most of what you say now.
>>3228213
>brought civility
No, they brought fear of technology followed by oppression followed by authoritarianism followed by total abandonment.
>>3228213
Why is it that I assume you are trolling for this and not the statement above?

Guess what happens in free markets (clue:Industrial Revolution)

>>3228225
>>so dont say me that african countries couldnt get their shit together while billions of dollars and lot of skileld foreign contractors are being funneled into their pockets

into whose pockets, exactly?
pro-tip: dictators and arms-dealers

the political "structures" (if one could call them that) entrenched there will almost never let a penny of that aid going through get to anyone who needs it

>>3228225

Its always easier to cry in your soiled diapers and beg for help than trying to change it for yourself and risk your hand getitng shitty.

>>3228224

The funny thing is, no one cares about the Wehrmacht, the Honvedseg or the Romanian Army systematically killing russians, the Soviets systematically killing ukranians, germans(especially volga germans) and middle asians or the smaller states killing the fuck out of eachother.

No, its jews and only jews because jews controlled the most of american media in during WW2 and they have successfully made it memetic(using it in the original sense of the word) enough.

>>3228231

>BAAAW HOW DAR U GIBE STUF TO US U RACIS CRACKA

The only way to fix africa would be to completely smash the tribal africa to pieces and reform them into a proper class-based society instead of a clan based one.

ITT: Nobody knows what Botswana is.

They're bros, guys. Botswanans are bros.

You guys are assuming racism is over. It's still around. It's now just socially acceptable to say "I don't see race" and still go on believing preconceived notions about race, which is fucking worse than outward bigotry. Racism is still a HUGE problem and no one seems to give a shit anymore because "lolcivilrights". We are still savages, and we will still be savages in 2050.

>In 1975, we looked back at how Women and Black people were treated, and were disgusted at our savagery.

That still hasn't gone away. USA is in a collective circle jerk because they finally got a black president.

By 2050 you might be able to get over thinking in terms of 'race', a concept with no real meaning to anybody with a brain.

But that's within my lifetime. Good luck.

>>3228251
How many Botswanans died to bring us this information?

The bullshit the news feeds us
How we were blinded

>>3228224

The truth is, the nazis had such awesome ideas being forever politically incorrect now.

Like the Lebensborn program, taking lower class mothers into maternal homes and giving all their children extremly good education, indoctrination and health care.

Also, they were the only ones accepting that personal competition and a limited form of socialdarwinist selection happens in capitalism, which became a taboo too.

>>3228106
>the need for its consumption
cause there was a need? people drink cause they want to. if anything we'll get LESS puritanical about shit like that.

Bigotry toward homosexuals

>>3228259

Because its not racism but culturalism.

Poeple hate the ebonics, the garish clothing, the gangsta rap and his stance on the world in the average street thug, not the skin color. The skin color only helps to identify him(because he will too base his "nigga" culture around his skin color"

Thats why people dont mind having a white collar black co-worker but go apeshit when they see a thug in their street.

What should be unacceptable and disgusting:

War, Starvation, Poverty

What the NWO will make unacceptable:

Privacy

#sadtruth

>>3228216
Probably.

We'll still do it though.

>>3228217
Thanks. I'm not sure if I'm trying to be funny or just being. As for climate change, my personal opinion is that its effects have been overestimated and sensationalised. Bracing for shitstorm.

>>3228218
ooh, this definitely.
>>3228223
I don't know. I think it depends a lot on what neuroscience finds about the nervous system of foetuses, luckily.
>>3228225
That's like arguing the holocaust was good because it designed excellent prison environments, then being surprised when people don't want to use them.
>>3228243
Ok, this is quickly moving from rational discourse to I BET THE JEWS DID THIS. Everyone commited war crimes, and the War was won by the allies. Nobody likes the fact the USSR did it, if only for the fact that Communism=Bad.
>>3228248
*all* the most successful societies were made by violent authoritarians, right? Look at Afghanistan or Vietnam, they're positively rolling in things that aren't cholera!

>>3228025

Forced welfare.

>>3228106

>free healthcare

There is no such thing as free healthcare. Somebody has to food the bill. Its either from your taxes and the government manages it for you, or you pay insurance to a private company but in the end its always the taxpayer footing the bill because healthcare isnt cheap. I as an european dont get the american aversion to universal free healthcare, it seems to be a much better way to spend money than starting wars then paying the healthcare of the occupied countries(lol Iraq)

>mfw future rabbi's;

How dare you! Nowhere in the Torah or the Talmud does it say we have to circumcise our children. It was a one time thing for Abraham to seal his covenant with G-d. That some Jews continued it as a cultural practice until recently, or a few ultra-Orthodox still do, should not be used as a criticism of the religion as a whole. G-d always intended that the man becomes circumcised when he is ready to join the community as an adult, not to be forced on a baby. Even implying that we would do this to a child is worse than mistaken, it is antisemitic.

>>3228231
There's a very easy way for Africans to fix that.

Rather than sitting around and fucking, they tell the West, "Please, we don't want your aid," because the West will NEVER stop shipping that shit otherwise, and force themselves to do something.

It's easy to blame the west for short-sighted actions, but you have to look at it from more than just that kind of myopic viewpoint. Just stopping shipments to Africa because it's better for them will be looked at as a sign of "giving up" and will massively influence the relationship between the Western country that does so and the African nation in question.

It goes both ways. There just isn't competent leadership in Africa.

>>3228298
I know that someone, somewhere in the world believes this. And I want to strangle them.

>>3228297

>Ok, this is quickly moving from rational discourse to I BET THE JEWS DID THIS.

This is what I'm talking about. You cant even mention bleedingly obvious things like how the american jews lobbied and used their media power for this without encountering thought-terminating fallacies.

Also, the USSR killed more jews than the nazis, the Holodomor, gulags, etc but their public image was repainted during WW2 to "Uncle Joe" and during the cold war it was easier to play up the LHZERUSSKIE angle.

>the most successful societies were made by violent authoritarians,

All successfull countries has a long a violent past with autocratic streaks. You cant have a long-lived peacenik country.

Schools. Let's lock kids up all day and force them through the same training program for over a decade.

Why would they do that to children? Were they fucking conscripted?

>>3228025
The concept of capitalism as a necessity.

>>3228281
In the past, certainly, clean water was hard to come by whereas alcoholic beverages were not, and lasted far longer. Nowadays, that is not a problem.
>>3228298
ouch. That stings

I believe that fundamentally, no human should have to submit to any form of government. However, I also understand that is incredibly short sighted and infeasible, and support socialism as a governmental system, with regulated capitalism being legal.
>>3228305
I meant Tax-funded. I would expect you to have to pay for it regardless of your eligibility.
>>3228324
One day I will invent a machine that lets you slap people over the internet and sell it on 4chan and make a trillion trillion bitcoins, true story.
I actually agree that no government should be mandatory, though, and I assume that makes me on his side(?)

>>3228264
The problem is, more and more journalists and college graduates are forgoing the trenches to pursue a different career path. Instead of reporting the news, they’re working to help manipulate it as public relations specialists. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, in fact, in 1980 there were .45 PR people and .36 journalists per every 100,000 workers. As of 2008, that number had shifted radically. There are now .90 PR people per 100,000 workers and just .25 journalists. As Columbia Journalism Review reports in its May-June 2011 issue, that’s a ratio of more than three-to-one, better equipped and better financed to influence what the public sees and hears.

I think you'll find this interesting; http://www.cjr.org/feature/true_enough.php?page=all&print=true

>>3228231

>How does a farmer even compete against that kind of price?

They are dying in hunger. If they burned their own farms and exiled the experienced organizers just because they were white they deserve to to die in malnutrition and recieve a collective Darwin Prize for it.

>>3228328
>>3228328
Fucking this. I am hoping to see some major changing in the structure of the education system in the coming decades.

>>3228328
I think I agree with you. The current school system is far, far too simplistic.

>>3228025
Putting old people in nursing homes. I cannot think of a more undignified way to end one's days.

>>3228328

Underageban detected.

Schools just need to reform and segregated(by ability, not color) small classes of 5-8 children with flexible courses instead of lumping 40 children together with the one or two retards always holding the entire class up.

Also, middle-high schools should be more university like with choosable courses and they should always train everyone in a manual job and real life skills like driving license and citizenship education.

>>3228346
>>3228350

Khan academy, yo.

This ought to destroy public schools. Parents will be able to afford communal tutors to iron out the edges of what the child cannot do by themselves.


Seriously, when you base your education system on Prussian propaganda mills, you know you're fucking up big time. Equally, when you decide to keep your kids at home in a fundamentalist pressure cooker, you're fucking up the other way.

>>3228365

So what you describe is a total re-working of the school system from the ground up. Which is what I was trying to imply.

Also, I'd bring back a short term conscription(4-6 months basic training) for everyone, regardless of gender after high school. Learning some actual disciple, self-control and experiencing proper teamwork would be a nice thing to everyone.

>>3228370

The prussian system actually works wonder IF everyone has the same level of talent in the class so no one is holding anyone.

>>3228365

University needs a rework too. Diplomas should be free but HARD AS FUCK to get because current diploma mills just devalue formal education and promote job nepotism.

Spending 3-5 years and amassing a pile of debt only nets people a bunch of drunken memories and a few wasted years nowadays.

>>3228328
What do you want as an alternative?

This is the best way to ensure that the majority of people learn certain skills like basic writing, math, and science before they graduate.

>>3228380

And you are interested in feeding an authority approved curriculum to everyone.

These platonic students do not exist. At different points, everyone will hold back everyone else. Teachers can deal with this dynamically, it is their job, after all. But when their main job is to get everyone over arbitrary hurdles by arbitrary deadlines, they can't.

>>3228386

Truly talented people do it on their own even before school and they waste their intellect gossiping and forming cliques for about a decade.

Thats why schools need to work with small, IQ-screened groups and provide approporiate education.

>>3228391

There will be always an authority. Stop being a raging anarchist teen and you will realize this.

>>3228386

The current system does not do that, and it wastes a lot of money not doing it. So it's not like saying we have a system now that at least gets everyone to a basic level.

Teachers need to help kids when they have problems. They need to have their time freed up by allowing the lecture portion of the class to be done by video. The child will be able to pause and repeat the lectures until they get it, or ask if they have to. Smart kids will go ahead without too much issue, while dumb kids can get more attention.

>>3228399

It need not be unresponsive, though. Stop being an apologist and learn to criticise where criticism is due.

>>3228395
I disagree.

You're working under the assumption that people are only as intelligent and smart as they were when they were 8, which is fundamentally wrong. Humans develop at different rates, myself being an example. While I'm not the smartest guy, I'm certainly more intelligent and capable than I was when I was 14.

If you're proposing that people be "taught differently" because some jackass decided one wasn't as smart as someone else thanks to an arbitrary exam score, and all the social entanglements and issues that would result of that kind of system, than I hope you never get into a position that can change anything.

>>3228395
>Truly talented people do it on their own even before school
You learnt basic science before you reached school?
Also, what you learn pre-school depends so massively on what your parents do with you that I don't think it be regarded as a valid measure of ability. e.g. My mother thought about teaching me mathematics up to a KS2 level, but decided against it as I would end up not paying attention in class, apparently.

Abortion.

>>3228414

On the day perfect, opt-in/opt-out contraception for both sexes becomes readily available, you'll be totally right. I don't see why this is even controversial.

>>3228422
We might have to wait a while for the "readily available" part, but it's happening.

>>3228025
>What will we look back on in disgust in 2050? What is currently regarded as acceptable, but savage in the eyes of those from the future?
That we should provide all of our criminals with food and shelter free of charge, but require our law-abiding citizens to earn them. That all land should be owned, but many own none at all, so there is no place for a citizen without property or friends to legally be. The idea that each citizen must earn even his barest living, rather than be free to feed from his share of nature's bounty as even an animal in the woods may expect.

Perhaps it will be remembered as necessary, but it will also be looked on as barbaric, especially at this time, already so close to full automated provision of sustenance, when we have passed the point where human labor is the most necessary thing for production and reached a new level of being once again limited by our natural resources, which no man made.

I don't really think it will be come kind of democratic socialism, though. More like the way people put out bird feeders. At some point, the necessities of life get cheap enough that people will feed you just to see you happily eating. (to say nothing of the sexual advantages a providing man would have compared to the common mooch)

>>3228409

Yes, I did.

I knew literally ALL elementary school material except cursive handwriting before even enrolling.

Elementary was basically an eight year long prison of boredom to me

>>3228025
At this rate, we will probably see the destruction of the family system (marriage/raising kids), and the state raising any children. Our culture will also decline and rot into depravity, but o well.

>>3228443
So you knew literally everything elementary school could teach you by age five.

Homosexual? Never heard of it.

Oh, you mean people used to have a name for people who slept with members of their own gender? Were there blonde-o-sexuals as well?

Man, being that hung up on who someone was sleeping with. It's like, you should get out more, right?

Labor for income.

Selling necessities of a modern life for profit.

>>3228443
And did you decide to learn this independently of your parents, or with their support?
I don't doubt it's possible, but I doubt it's possible without parental help.

>>3228443

Haha you fucking liar. If you're telling the truth, then your school must not have taught ANYTHING.

What does an 8 year old understand about History, Science, and Algebra.

It's fucking hilarious how retarded you are.

>>3228450

I guess we're living at the high point, then. The very pinnacle of human civilisation. Better than any generation who lived before us, but doomed to inevitable decline once this generation is no longer calling the shots.

>mfw every generation thinks this

Man of the future will look down upon out past slaughter and consumption of self-aware animals, while dietary alternatives and supplements were widely available.

>>3228456
Sexual-preference-based prejudice will probably hang around a little later than 2050. Oh, and don't forget what "being that hung up on who someone was sleeping with" implies about pedophilia.

>>3228462
>>3228452

And now he's on 4chan XD

>>3228452

Seven.

And yes. Everything, including the basic chemisty and physics that yuropiin schools love adding to elementary curricular.

>>3228462
>What does an 8 year old understand about History, Science, and Algebra.
6 year old.

8 would be a little old to start elementary school.

>>3228468
So, since elementary school had nothing to teach you, what did you learn in those eight years of boredom?

>>3228465

That's true.

But the general trend has been towards acceptance of the kinds of sex that either doesn't hurt anyone, or that anyone can at least consent to; and away from the kinds of sex that hurt someone, or that someone can't consent to.


On the day that realistic, child-like sex robots become available, I have to imagine that pedophilia will be just the weirdest of the philia's, not some kind of existential threat.

>>3228464
Dolphins?

>>3228463
*pulls out Plato quote*

>>3228025


>religion

/thread

What's gonna look savage? The state the world is in right now, and how's it's going to be in a decade. That's if things go the optimistic route instead of going slightly or full-on dystopic, which looks like the pessimistic and most logical route

>>3228462
>history, science, algebra
>elementary school

Someone didn't attend elementary school I see.

>>3228473

Kids are dicks to eachother.

Also, if you suck up to the teacher in the first two weeks you can get away reading books all day and not doing shit at all..

Everyone talking about education and university and stuff check out this thread

>>3222691
>>3222691

>>3228482

>replying to tripfags

Greasemonkey script, yo.

>>3228480

Except the world gets better and better for the common western man each decade.

>>3228482
Are you trolling? Can someone tell me?

Britfags get Science, History, and Basic Algebra education at Primary (11 and below) level.

>>3228478

If it's a good idea, it hardly matters who said it or when it was first said.

And attributing it to the earliest source we have for it would have ruined the mood of my post.

>>3228471
Ha even better.

>>3228468

I don't believe that at all. We'll just say for shits and giggles that you, at age 7, probably not tall enough to suck your dads penis (that came later, and your father came soon after that), had the capability to grasp intermediate mathematics and physics.

Even with this capability, you still have to sit down and physically study, memorize, practice, and apply. Especially in classes like history, biology, and physics where many key elements cannot be derived outside of an advanced labratory or extensive research.

Basically speaking, you don't pop out of a vagina knowing about every ancient culture and their relevance, nor knowing that the metric measurement of the acceleration of gravity is 10 m/s.

>>3228465
Honestly, I think that won't be much of a issue.
Gayfaggots and dykes may become a majority, although if we're optmistic we may be a society that's reached a point where such a thing is not inherently bad

>>3228477
>implying dolphins are the only self-aware animals

Pigs
Cows
Sheep
...
And everything including rats and crayfish

Self-awareness & ability to feel pain has been tested and detected in scientific experiments. Obviously there are varying degrees of self-awareness and pain sensitivity, with perhaps humans and other primates at the top, but our superiority doesn't diminish the self-awareness of other animals.

>>3228492

Hungary:

3 years of Physics, 2 years of Chemistry, 5 years of History, 8 years of Math with 4 years of mostly geometry and algebra shit. Most elementary schools also have atleast one mandatory foreign language course for 8 years.

>>3228498

It will never be a majority. I doubt that even a majority would try it.

But it will be about as big a deal as left-handedness or ambidexterity is now. Meaning, we'll know that people used to really hate it, most people barely understand why, and we'll still make wee jokes at their expense (and they at ours), but for the most part nobody will give a fuck.

>>3228483
I meant useful information-wise. Surely you could have exceeded highschool-level in eight years.

>>3228509

Nobody would give gays a fuck if not for OLOLOL GAY PRIDE U MAD SILLY BREEDERS faggotry. They are provocating people on purpose and bawwing when their pride gets overran by angry veterans(lolrussian prides)

>>3228497
Realistically, he probably just started and stayed ahead of most of the class material. Bright kids do that often.

...and the ones who don't amount to anything afterward often exaggerate it and talk about it too much in a sad attempt to prove their superiority.

>10 m/s.
Man, that just pisses me off on multiple levels.

>>3228506
I think you're confusing actual self-awareness with plain old sentience.

>>3228489
Can't argue with ya since I'm not the "common westerner"

But I have a feeling shit like scientology, legal inquisitions,corruption, ignorance(even if we do get "smarter") incompetence authoritarianism and bad things in general are going to
have a much higher influence in our society some time from now, lest we keep not giving a shit
But I do hope I'm like one of those faggots that thinks the earth is flat and the jews are reptiles in logic, even if that means I'm retarded

>>3228512

I could but I did not, always read a lot of technical books, had a lot of ideas but ultimately I ended up having a passive semester(in sociology no less) and posting on 4chan in 5:12 while drinking a can of monster while my retarded friend who couldnt finish high school works as a car mechanic and earns loadsamunnay.

>>3228517

People gave a fuck before that.

Gay pride is a response to bigotry and closeting. When bigotry and closeting are in the past, gay pride will seem as stupid as freckles pride, or southpaw pride. Something to join on future facebook.

For now, though, it is a beacon to show closeted homosexuals that a large community exists, to show bigots that they can fuck off. And besides, it's a lot tamer than Mardi Gras, and lasts a far shorter time.

Can you imagine a world where every kid is a prodigy that knows enough to scare the scholars of today but is at the same time a fucking retard?

>>3228521

>scientology

Scientology had its ass handed to itself by a group of juvenile trolls posting dick jokes. They are also getting banned soon in several european countries.

>legal inquisitions

Compare with fifties McCarthyism or fifties europe.

>corruption

Compare seventies. Now a corporate mistake gets a huge uproar on the internet, not just a little footnote in a local paper.

>incompetence authoritarianism

Humans are authoritarianistic by nature and governmental power is softer than ever before.

What if we could find out life is not worth it and then off the entire race?

>>3228535

>closeting

That means no one cares if someone wants to be a flaming drag queen but wants to avoid negative attention.

No one cares if gays are fucking eachother in a closed room or live together but they do care if they act like flaming faggots in public.

>>3228535
>Gay pride is a response to bigotry and closeting.
Perhaps...

But one good look at those guys wearing g-strings with chaps presenting themselves as the face of gayness is enough to scare a whole generation back into the closet and provoke a whole new wave of bigotry.

I figure it's a self-sustaining cycle.

>>3228549
There are kids that actually managed that. The last guy was a korean born in the seventies I think, but there may be others
They're not even savants man, imagine how cool the world would be if that kind of shit could be easily replicated

>>3228554

Hope you're right anon, although scientology seems to still be strong

Just curious, where are you from?

>>3228565

Gay man:

Dresses, looks, and behaves exactly like normal men except he happens to like men.

Faggot:

Pink clothes, perfume, makeup, forced barbara streisand voice, acts like a 17 year old valley girl, calls heterosexuals breeders, acts flamboyantly all the time.


Guess which one is more common on prides and which one is reviled. I hate when gays try to get away with being obnoxious faggots just because they are gay.

>>3228575
Forgot to mention, crime in general seems to be getting stronger, but I'm from the third world

>>3228575

Hungary.

By the way, I wasnt even the only one who knew the whole curriculum already, there were several other students like that and a dozen others being years ahead. I reckon most schools are full of kids like this, bright and bored as fuck because they literally have nothing to do but daydream all day and being called lazy faggots. Just imagine getting kids like this together in special, flexible, group-based schools and give them the time and tools to self-educate.

>>3228597
I think I've fucked up the quotes and you're talking to the wrong anon man

I wasn't even aware of the curriculum discussion

>>3228597

yeah, no, its easier to pretend everything is okay with education

>>3228597

and they will grow into jaded, vidya playing highschoolerss and collegefags who visit 4chan and fail at life

>>3228630
Well, most of my friends appear to be bright inviduals, and although they sometimes play video games they're actually pretty normal, which means they're wasting their potential, whatever it is

I kind of failed to see the point in your statement, additionally.

>Excessive taxation
>The idea that government can solve all of the world's problems if only the "right people were in charge."
>that we banned non-coercive acts like drugs and teh gays
>that we once fought wars over national borders or pride. Possibly the fact that nations existed at all.

>>3228702
All that by 2050?

>>3228702

>that we once fought wars over national borders or pride. Possibly the fact that nations existed at all.

you are fucktarded if you think this will ever happen

Hopefully our complete lack of respect/blindness when it comes to using natural resources properly. Perhaps once we don't have fossil fuels it will sink in a little more that we are dependent on what this planet gives us for survival.

>>3228734
why not?

I dunno, but one day were going to have robots and then people will be fighting for robots rights.

>>3228844
If they ever reach sentience and are capable of feeling and don't wipe us all out of existence, I will certainly fight for robots rights.

>>3228025 What is currently regarded as acceptable, but savage in the eyes of those from the future?

Genital mutilation

>>3228074Enjoy your 6000 year old Earth, americans

Enjoy your Sharia law and Islamic schools Europe.

We really have to come up with different greetings for each other.

>What will we look back on in disgust in 2050?
women's rights, allowing same-sex marriage

>What is currently regarded as acceptable, but savage in the eyes of those from the future?
granting blacks freedom, pacifist foreign policy

those disgusting savages in 2011 stil criminalizes voluntary euthanasia. Sick!

>>3228795
If ever, certainly not in 2050. More like 2500.

Sex with other humans.

Why would anyone have sex with anything other than a physically perfect artificial lover programmed to play out your fantasies? And with something that can give you DISEASES?! Disgusting.

I honestly think the prison system will be seen as savage by 2050. This shit is too big of a problem not to tackle in the immediate future.

>>3228025
They will be disgusted by our treatment of homosexuals

>>3229006
...specifically, our refusal to surgically correct their crippling sexual disorders.

>What will we look back on in disgust in 2050?
That nobody really did shit about climate change
In 2050, the changes won't be all that pronounced yet, but everybody will hate our guts that we didn't more about it.

>>3228979
>turning bad to good

>What is currently regarded as acceptable, but savage in the eyes of those from the future?
eating meat that came from an animal other than human

>>3229042
>proving his point

>>3228859
I don't think people would actually have to fight for robot rights. We would be prepared not to do that, as in not having sentient machines. And then we would become like machines.

>>3228844
No. No they won't.
The framework an AI would be based on would be fundamentally different. A robot will never tire of mindless work because it can just alter the speed at which it's "consciousness" is perceiving time and isn't subject to fatigue.

cults of personality and cults in general

>>3228025
>What will we look back on in disgust in 2050? What is currently regarded as acceptable, but savage in the eyes of those from the future?

Paedosexuality.

>>3229802
Ugh all these paedophobes disgust me. What they do in their private lives is nobody else's business.

Wage slavery.

It will take more than 39 years for it to end though.

Maybe in 2200 they will look back in disgust at both the wage slaves and the system which utilized them.

eating meat. well, we'll still eat meat. but it will be cloned in a lab

Pop Culture

the population will be about 10 billion by 2050. i think it is the breeders we will hate on. and it will be too little too late

>>3229899
No, it's faggots like you that will be hated
your irrational kind(and that's not because you're fagsexual) with heavily ego influenced decisions

I think we'll find new social constructs to replace the existing ones.

>>3229942
Oh boy I wish I could come back to this thread when the future turns out to be savageshit

>>3229951

ITT: nobody knows what botswana or namibia are.

better living standards than china, if you take into account the human rights violations and lack of freedom.

>>3229984
They're not better because they're less shit than their neighbours. Those countries still don't measure up to western standards. The best thing would be if the corrupt countries were assigned a leader and political system from more successful countries.

>>3230014
It's not that simple, only the shittiest shitholes would have definite benefit from that

>>3228025

maybe of the education based on authority and punishment.

Also this: >>3228136

People in 2050: Why did it take so long for gay marriage to be legal?

>>3230077
I sense some trolling

also, of the time we of today are forced to spend doing nothing

Well now I'm embarrassed about how we'll be thought of. Thanks, /sci/.

>>3230095
the fuck?

>>3230077
People in 2050: Why were people still practicing antiquated religious based traditions like marriage to such a degree that some excluded groups felt the desire to demand participation in the spectacle.

>their faces when

angry dawkins atheists that feel the need to push their religion on everyone

retarded political fiscal policy

>2050: You mean they used to throw people in prison for smoking this shit? Whoa man...Hey, roll another blunt.

>>3230140
>>3230077
>>3230067
>>3229899
>>3229896
>>3229826
>>3229725
>>3229006
>>3228983
>>3228870
>>3228844
>>3228739
>>3228544
>>3228033
>>3228052
>>3228061
>>3228065
>>3228081
>>3228117
>>3228136
>>3228169
>>3228175
>>3228195
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>>3228218

All of these, to varying extents.

hopefully by 2050, people will not be as fixated on religion as today.

>>3230156

Also, to put people in prison for any kind of crime may be considered idiotic and useless.

>>3230187
why?

>>3230224

1. it' useless and not educative
2. you have to pay for them (food, guards salary, etc.)
3. it's unfair for who committed mild crimes
4. bosses of organized crimes actually continue to give orders to their mafiamen, while you pay their food and living expenses.

>>3230247
I've also heard of studies reporting that jail time results in overall more violent individuals.

>>3230247
But what would you do with the inmates?

The blatant and widespread exploitation of the developing world for 1st world profits. The careless use of fossil fuels. The resource wars.

>>3230265

>>3230265

if they committed mild crimes (all the ones that not constitute a great damage to life, society, environment) just social labours, volunteering, civics education (all mandatory),
they'd support their living expenses in the institute with their volunteering.

if they are a dangerous criminal mainly hard labours.

btw anything but not a system based on "garbage collectors" like jails, that will only have consequences like this: >>3230251

That we punished murderers and rapists. In the future Rape will no longer be a crime but a sport. So will be murder.

>if they are dangerous criminals*

>>3230339
Pessimist are we?

>>3230344
No. Just realist.

>>3229823
Yes, the problem is what they do in other peoples' private lives.

>>3230344
Well, if only the rape part came true, I'd say optimist.

>>3230346
Why do you feel that to be true? There's no precedent for it, and no indication it will be so.

>>3230339

It would be strange for things to go backwards. The general trend has been away from using violence to settle personal disputes. Is there any reason this would change in the next fifty years?

>>3230501
you want to get raped?

>>3230620
Yes, yes I do. I want to be knocked out and gangraped by a bunch of burly black men.

>>3230533
Due to our reluctance to use violence to resolve problems, Islam is spreading. They have no such reluctance.

>>3231128
Islam's violence is a factor in its staying power in countries where it exists, but I'd hardly say that's why it's spreading.

>>3231143
Islam's violence isn't why it's spreading. It's why it stays in power where it manages to get set up.
Our LACK of violence is why it can spread and get set up. We embrace "multiculturalism" which in reality means "everybody worry about not pissing off Islam" until they get to vote democracy and free speech and religious freedom out.

>>3231128
>>3231143
>>3231157

Islam is a bad philosophy. Compared to enlightenment values, it's like muskets and aircraft carriers.

The second, the very second, the gloves come off, we win. No contest.

That we are chill enough to give them second chances is part of our essential nature in the modern world, and giving that up would mean we lose, even if they don't necessarily win. So we're like, play nice, act like a grown-up, and you can sit at the grown-ups table. But they're petulant tweenagers, and they act up just enough to look cool in front of their friends at the kids table, but not enough to piss off the adults and get sent back.

>>3231211
I am seriously ignorant of why Islam is bad
Can you please give me a summary

>>3234048
can't eat pork, no beer, discriminate against women, kill all non-muslims

>What will we look back on in disgust in 2050?

How Jewish people poisoned and corrupted the cultures of everyone that ever listened to them.

>>3234062
The only really wrong thing I see is "kill all non-muslims" and maybe "discriminate against women"

And can you prove they really advocate that?
I've heard the only people that do that are the terrorists and small sects, but maybe anon can show me the truth

ITT
>capitalism is the scourge of humanity
>enjoying products of capitalism all around you
mfw

>>3235759
Enjoying? No, not at all. Actually, they make me more miserable, somehow.

usa is 40 years behind england and 60 years behind the netherlands. for slavery and womens rights. Look at what is being looked at in disgust there over last 20 years, and you have your answer.

>>3228025

Religion
Killing animals for meat
Allowing people that cannot take care of their children to procreate

>>3235774
>behind

Actually, we're better at resisting Jewish multiculturalism. Funny how both countries you mentioned are having serious problems with Muslim citizens killing natural-born citizens.

>>3234408

Anon is merciful today, and will show you the truth:

http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Note support for extreme punishments, among other things. Thats enough to hate the muslim scum.

>this thread
>still alive
I posted it 48 hours ago, if I remember correctly.

>>3235791
then that will be 2050 for usa. muslims killing natural born citizens.

Gay marriage is the only one that comes to mind immediately.

>>3235797
>muslims killing natural born citizens.

Won't happen. We are evolved enough to protect each other.

>>3235811
>>3235797
>>3235791
You're all paranoid and being overly simplistic.

>>3235819
Maybe homosexual rights. that was big in europe over the last 20 years.

1) Competitive market rather than synergistic cooperation

2) Less that 80% efficient technology will be regarded as unspeakable waste of ressource

3) Spam and unwanted advertisement will be recognize as crime against humanity.
"What ! You mean that in the past it was normal to attack people's mental even though physical harm were illegal ?"
(Of course in 2100 rape will be legal as long as thanks to future pills the victim will be pleased afterward)

Global warming, the way we treat 3rd world countries, right wing governments, no gay marriage?

Economy and all the stupid things we do in its name

>>3228025
>>3228025
-social security/welfare

-non-mandatory chemical castration (sorry having a brain fart moment if thats not proper grammar)

-letting blacks be free

war on drugs

/thread

Cultural Marxism/Political Correctness
Cultural Pessimism

Male circumcision.

Sometimes I wonder how the country will react when it's public knowledge that it's bad. Straight up denial? Mass depression?

by "we" you mean liberal retards right? especially liberal retards that suppress the fact that women always had "rights" and they played their role for best survival of the species until MEN created jobs that women could finally handle, blacks were not only the first slave owners in america but also in world history, and the list goes on.

youre uneducated and so are all the people who "look back on history with disgust"

>>3228025
Hunting. Industrial farming. Use of fossil fuels and nuclear power. Bans on marijuana (no, I don't smoke it). People actually smoking cigarettes.

Oh, who am I kidding? Nothing will change with those things.

>>3235759


not like you have a choice if you want to stay alive

Hardcore pornography.
/thread

PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE/CYCLICAL CONSUMPTION

Planning for products to break after x amount of hours use so you have to buy more. One of the great problems we have right now, more of a giant umbrella problem nurturing many more.

Eating meat, especially seeing how it takes many times the weight of the animal in grain to raise it to maturity for slaughter and 1000's of litres of water. Titanic waste of everything.

Television. Utterly pathetic. What should be no more than a trivial stepping stone in display technology for combination with a computer dominates our entire worldview. Psychological cancer.

I'd like to believe that humans are capable of learning from the mistakes of the past but I don't have that much faith now.

People in 2050 will probably look back at the start of the century in disgust because we had a chance to stop global warming before it went out of control and we didn't. Persecution of gays and atheists too, probably.

>>3228098
this, that and they'll be disgusted at how short our attention spans were to things like this, we get up in our when our media reports it for a week or so, then completely forget about it and move on the next week.

We have the attention span of hamsters

>>3236303
*arms

>>3236238

We're going to eat crickets. More protein per gram than chicken or beef and far more economical. No one ever takes the idea seriously, but I think if you use the right spices, or provide dipping sauce, people won't find it that bad.

Homophobia probably, hopefully intellectual property.

A significant amount of time after that religion.

>>3236338
Why not eat irradiated cricket tissue? Find a cricket with aggressive cancer, give the tumour what it needs, and cut cube off of it like tofu. Sterilise it to prevent it from growing inside the body. Obtain food people won't find as weird if you don't tell them.

>>3236338

Doesn't sound too bad to me. Well in terms of drastic future survival techniques it doesn't.