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Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:32:30 2011 No.3182723 [Reply] [Original]

I don't suppose that there are any electrical engineers out there who can describe how to create a Bode plot from a transfer function? Because that would help, and I have a final at 8:00am Tuesday.

And for the life of me, I can't imagine a situation in real life where I would ever have to create a bode plot from scratch

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 05:36:30 2011 No.3182736 File: 9 KB, 225x224, sagan..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In order to make a bode plot from scratch. you must first invent the universe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:37:30 2011 No.3182738 >>3182736 You're not funny.

>>	Harriet !4j1CscU.Ng Mon Jun 6 05:37:30 2011 No.3182740 >>3182736 Lol EK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:38:30 2011 No.3182742 >>3182736 >>3182740 >WE BOTH HAVE TRIPS LOLOKOLOKOKOLOLKOKL

>>	Krakengineer !!5XY+x7grkpt Mon Jun 6 05:40:15 2011 No.3182744 >>3182742 why so mad bro?

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 05:40:30 2011 No.3182745 >>3182740 u real harriet? i thought you changed your trip to 'gogo spy' or something? probably a fake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:40:30 2011 No.3182747 >>3182723 >implying matlab doesn't exist

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:43:30 2011 No.3182752 >>3182747 >implying dielectric spectroscopy doesn't exist

OP Mon Jun 6 05:43:30 2011 No.3182754

>>3182723

OMG How so fucking helpful!!!

I understand everything now! The reason why I could not create bode plots before was due to the fact that the universe did not in fact exist!!!

Now I understand everything! The secrets of creation are all unfolding around me, and the mysteries of the universe are all unraveling!!! I feel a massive pulse of enlightenment washing over my mind!!!

Who could have possibly imagined that some obnoxious troll post on 4 chan could have unlocked a virtually transcendental understanding of the universe!

Now I can go back to fapping to old pictures of Angelina Jolie back when she was hot and sleep well for my final in two days! Thanks anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:44:30 2011 No.3182758 File: 17 KB, 250x250, contempt_costanza-(n1306120678493).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3182754 >Angelina Jolie >not lolicon

>>	OP Mon Jun 6 05:45:30 2011 No.3182761 >>3182747 No, see, she makes us create the bode plots by hand, which is largely the most useless skill imaginable

>>	OP Mon Jun 6 05:46:30 2011 No.3182762 >>3182758 Alright, fine... You caught me.

>>	OP Mon Jun 6 05:48:30 2011 No.3182771 But seriously, anyone have and helpful hints? InB4 I just invited a whole bunch of trolling on myself At least make it funny so that I can stay awake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:49:30 2011 No.3182772 OP, I suggest looking at your lecture notes. It would take a lengthy amount of time to type up an explanation in detail.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 05:49:30 2011 No.3182773 File: 19 KB, 389x437, umad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3182754

>>	OP Mon Jun 6 05:51:30 2011 No.3182782 >>3182773 I requested FUNNY, not infuriating, your doingitwrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:51:30 2011 No.3182784 >EE Have you ever doped silicon? If you haven't, you're a faggot

>>	Krakengineer !!5XY+x7grkpt Mon Jun 6 05:54:30 2011 No.3182797 >>3182723 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bode_plot#Phase_plot

EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 05:55:30 2011 No.3182804
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>>3182782
you want funny? okay then:
2 atoms are walking down a street. one turns to the other and says "oh fuck dude! i think ive lost an electron"
the other atom says "oh no! u sure, brah?"
"yes, i'm absolutely certain!"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 05:59:30 2011 No.3182812 >>3182804 Oh christ, you're awake. Shouldn't you be out working on not being a fat, useless whore?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:02:30 2011 No.3182823 >>3182821 You're implying that he isn't being a faggot at the moment. I know it's hard, but try to think things through before you say them, OK? OK!

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:03:30 2011 No.3182828 >>3182812 shouldn't you be out killing yourself, you fucking cunt?

>>	OP Mon Jun 6 06:03:30 2011 No.3182825 WTF There are women on /Sci/? I suppose that most modern kitchens have Wi-Fi access.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:05:30 2011 No.3182832 File: 48 KB, 966x388, harrietthewhore.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3182823 Why'd you delete your comment, Harriet? Can't take criticism?

Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:05:30 2011 No.3182834

>>3182723
OP, bode plots are best described with an example... first factor out shit and make it in the format of a(1+jw/a)
for H(w)= [a(1+jw/a)/b(1+jw/b)], easy way to solve without understanding... take each factor and draw them separately on the w-f(w) plot, then add them to get the solution.
Draw the a as a straight line parallel to the omega axis and label it as 20loga dB, for the other factors, (1+jw/a), draw a straight line on the omega axis then when you reach a on the w axis, draw a line at 45 degrees in the positive slope. For (1+jw/b), draw the same thing as (1+jw/a) except instead of a positive slope, draw a negative slope. Finally graphically add all 4 factors together to get the bode plot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:05:30 2011 No.3182836 >>3182828 Jesus fuck, go away. You contribute nothing to this board. Stop shitting up threads.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:07:30 2011 No.3182840 >>3182832 isnt the real harriet. wrong tripcode.

REMEMBER ME YOU CUNTS, YOU NEVER HELPED WITH MY HOMEWORK!!!!!! cunt Mon Jun 6 06:07:49 2011 No.3182842 [DELETED]

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:08:30 2011 No.3182844 >>3182832 that's because harriet is ek's better self and (s)he accidentally posted with wrong trip.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:09:30 2011 No.3182850 >>3182840 >Implying you're not Harriet >Implying there's a real "Harriet" >Stop being a bitch and getting in conversations you're not a part of.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:11:30 2011 No.3182856 File: 13 KB, 424x351, 13635748.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3182850 ahahah! where's your tin foil hat, brah? Lurk moar, we arn't the same.

FUCK YOUR PHD!!!!!! cunt Mon Jun 6 06:11:49 2011 No.3182855 [DELETED]

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:13:30 2011 No.3182862 >>3182856 Seriosuly, you try too hard to impress strangers over the internet. I'm sorry you have such a shitty life. I'm blocking your IP from showing up (which also blocks Harriet at the same time. Hm...) Sage for talking to an attention whore.

OP Mon Jun 6 06:15:30 2011 No.3182868

>>3182834

Thanks bunches, I have been following the examples here:

http://www.ece.utah.edu/~ee3110/bodeplot.pdf

And I get that the first line starts off at 20log(K)

And that the zeros break from this line and cause a divergence upwards at 20dB/decade

And that the poles do the same thing, except downward at -20dB/decade

And that I basically add up all the +20 slope and -20 slope and figure out what the slope of a line is at any given point.

The only thing that I don't get is where to start the line at?

>>	OP Mon Jun 6 06:17:30 2011 No.3182872 >>3182856 The trolls make good company... So Harriet and EK are rumored to be the same person around these parts? That chick looks Canadian. Am I wrong?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:17:30 2011 No.3182873 >>3182804 you are the worst unintellectual tripfag to have ever accidentially the imageboard

COMING SOON!!! ALM Mon Jun 6 06:17:49 2011 No.3182877 [DELETED]

As somewhat expected, the boss of Black Lotus eventually decided to stab me in the back, give up on their promises and cave in to the trolls, being extremely unreasonable about it all. Just as with PRQ (who didn't do a thing about a DDoS attack for three weeks or even respond to me at all, until I was forced to move as the site was to remain offline indefinitely in their incompetent hands), he didn't technically kick AT out, but in practice, by demanding random censorship of legal discussions (while ignoring the abusive customers) in a way which very obviously and without any doubt purely served to get rid of AT. Trust me: it was not a real choice and I wouldn't have any respect for a site admin who gives up on his core values, just as I have absolutely zero respect for subhumans who lie and stab others in their back.

So: I simply cannot host the damned board anywhere on this planet, unless I somehow manage to afford my own data center, ISP and enterprise-grade equipment. I'll try to make that happen ASAP, but it's not easy. I've known for quite some time that AT was never going to make money on its own, and requires massive external backing in some way. If one of you were an eccentric billionaire, you would've stepped up by now. Truth to be told, I really did honestly believe that a major anonymous supporter (who naturally would get to remain anonymous if he/she so wished) would step up at some point and save the best forum on the Internet from this very sad fate.

The worst part is perhaps that I'm fairly sure that with steady donations from you, I could've afforded a much better server and DDoS protection, and thus the greedy fuck running Black Cunt (actually, the main employees were always very competent and friendly, so the only bad thing I can say about them is that they work for the devil) might very well have not started harassing me as AT would've been a good customer, bringing in lots of green ones for him to swim around in and masturbate to.

>>	Krakengineer !!5XY+x7grkpt Mon Jun 6 06:19:30 2011 No.3182882 >>3182872 That chick looks Canadian. Am I wrong? The chick is a Canadian youtuber called FactVsReligion. EK uses her pictures as reaction faces for some reason.

EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:20:30 2011 No.3182885

>>3182872
yeh, chick is canadian. well spotted.

we arnt the same person, that is harriets old trip i think (we are housemates, but not samefag)
she used a word as a tripcode, which is easy to decode and impersonate, so now she uses a generated tripcode.

>>	Faggot !26D7I/H7YY Mon Jun 6 06:20:30 2011 No.3182889 >>3182882 >stalking tripfriends >2011

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:21:30 2011 No.3182892 >>3182882 >The chick is a Canadian youtuber called FactVsReligion. EK uses her pictures as reaction faces for some reason. That's because EK is a man pretending to be a woman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:22:30 2011 No.3182894 >>3182885 Computers on the same network have different IP addresses.

>>	Krakengineer !!5XY+x7grkpt Mon Jun 6 06:23:30 2011 No.3182899 >>3182892 I thought so too until she had no idea how erections work.

OP Mon Jun 6 06:24:30 2011 No.3182900

>>3182868
>>3182868

Back to this post, it all makes perfect sense, I just need to know where to start the final bode plot line off at.

And also, along the omega axis, where do I usually start numbering on the logarithmic scale? It suddenly occurs to me that there will never be a "0" on a logarithmic plot axis.

.001? .01? .1? 1.0? 10?

Thanks in advance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:24:30 2011 No.3182901 >>3182899 Yeah, it's real hard to pretend to be ignorant of something over the internet....

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:24:30 2011 No.3182903 >>3182894 yes probably, i have no idea. when real harriet pops up why dont you just check IP's of both of us and compare? they will be different.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:24:30 2011 No.3182905 >>3182840 >implying you're both using the same computer at the same time and tripped over your trips and harriet isn't your imaginary friend

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:26:30 2011 No.3182909 >>3182903 >implying you don't have a dynamic IP address >implying the IP address from the one dedicated line will be different between computers

EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:26:30 2011 No.3182911

>>3182905
I honestly didnt. Some anon might have engineered it to look that way i think (probably you)
which might be convincing except that is an old tripcode, so real harriet has no reason to go back to using it.
She was on last night, using her current tripcode.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:27:30 2011 No.3182912 >>3182903 I did, and they're the same. Case closed. I'm ignoring you now, I don't like to see so many posts by a man pretending to be a woman living with himself. Bye EK/Harriet!

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:28:30 2011 No.3182914 >>3182909 I do have a dynamic IP address but i dont really know how IP addresses work. So will harriet and I have the same IP address or not? (live in the same house, same internet, but different computers)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:29:30 2011 No.3182917 >>3182914 You're a fucking idiot.

Phoenixing soon!!!! K. ALM Mon Jun 6 06:29:49 2011 No.3182916 [DELETED]

As somewhat expected, the boss of Black Lotus eventually decided to stab me in the back, give up on their promises and cave in to the trolls, being extremely unreasonable about it all. Just as with PRQ (who didn't do a thing about a DDoS attack for three weeks or even respond to me at all, until I was forced to move as the site was to remain offline indefinitely in their incompetent hands), he didn't technically kick AT out, but in practice, by demanding random censorship of legal discussions (while ignoring the abusive customers) in a way which very obviously and without any doubt purely served to get rid of AT. Trust me: it was not a real choice and I wouldn't have any respect for a site admin who gives up on his core values, just as I have absolutely zero respect for subhumans who lie and stab others in their back.

So: I simply cannot host the damned board anywhere on this planet, unless I somehow manage to afford my own data center, ISP and enterprise-grade equipment. I'll try to make that happen ASAP, but it's not easy. I've known for quite some time that AT was never going to make money on its own, and requires massive external backing in some way. If one of you were an eccentric billionaire, you would've stepped up by now. Truth to be told, I really did honestly believe that a major anonymous supporter (who naturally would get to remain anonymous if he/she so wished) would step up at some point and save the best forum on the Internet from this very sad fate.

The worst part is perhaps that I'm fairly sure that with steady donations from you, I could've afforded a much better server and DDoS protection, and thus the greedy fuck running Black Cunt (actually, the main employees were always very competent and friendly, so the only bad thing I can say about them is that they work for the devil) might very well have not started harassing me as AT would've been a good customer, bringing in lots of green ones for him to swim around in and masturbate to./.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:30:30 2011 No.3182920 >>3182917 well pardon me for never taking IT. dickhead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:32:30 2011 No.3182921 >>3182914 Different computers but you accidentally her trip? >Hurp, it was already thar Except you were already using EK before putting on the Harriet face >Harriet doesn't exist >You're a man >You're ugly

>>	OP Mon Jun 6 06:33:30 2011 No.3182922 I'm not entirely unconvinced that everyone in this thread is the same mastermind attempting to troll me...

>>	sage Mon Jun 6 06:34:30 2011 No.3182925 File: 15 KB, 180x147, 180px-Alltheposts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3182922

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:37:30 2011 No.3182928 >>3182922 don't worry about that, good man OP, just ignore the name tags and weigh the information in posts based on their merit (and don't take anything ektroll says too seriously) polite sage for non-productive contribution.

EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:37:30 2011 No.3182926

>>3182921
I didnt accidently her trip. she isnt even here. she probably isnt even awake.

she had been posting here just as harriet but without a trip for some time, despite my advice. so a few days ago she was impersonated (simply by some anon writing harriet in the name field) and i got trolled because i couldnt tell it wasnt her. then i finally convinced her to trip, so she did. she had picked some fucking stupid tripcode, and some anon managed to decode it and impersonate her yet again.
now she has changed it to a tripcode that isnt as easily decoded, and reads as 'gogo spy' or something like that.
the one that the harriet used in this thread was her first one that got decoded. the anon trolling in this thread must be the same person who figured out harriets tripcode, which is why he is using her old one.

Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:40:30 2011 No.3182932

>>3182926

God, you do come out with some lengthy shit.

Why would said Anon delete his post? Hardly troll's remorse for a post like that.

Why would it be a direct response to something directed at you and filled with the same butt hurt that you suffer from?

WHY

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:46:30 2011 No.3182941 >>3182926 hey EK... if you're really Harriet... could you be more her? She looks like a very nice person. As opposed to you.

EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:48:30 2011 No.3182942

>>3182932
i'm not sure why he deleted it. I guess he might have figured that if he is trying to propogate the myth that EK and harriet are samefag, then if it was me who posted it accidently i'd be like "oh shit, i used the wrong name, i was trying to be EK this time, oh fuck! covers blown! etc"
so try to quickly delete it.
it still was the wrong tripcode, if harriet and me were the same person, why would i not use the most recent one?
if we were the same, why would i make one of us stupid and not use a tripcode for several weeks?

also, in the post that fake harriet deleted, she called someone a faggot. I dont think shes ever called anyone a faggot in her life. that post doesnt fit with her personality at all.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:50:30 2011 No.3182945 >>3182941 Shes not any nicer than me, she's just softer and completely in-offensive. How am i not nice? at least i'm funny once in a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 06:54:30 2011 No.3182953 >>3182942 I dont think shes ever called anyone a faggot Because it's you! I don't suppose she would ever say fap either.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 06:56:30 2011 No.3182958 >>3182953 When did she say fap?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 07:00:30 2011 No.3182966 >>3182958 When you made her say it. Go suck on shit. If you spent the time you do on 4chan, focusing on not being yourself, then maybe some day you won't hate yourself and others might go as far to say you're enjoyable.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 07:01:30 2011 No.3182967 >>3182958 I did an archive search. no results for 'fap' with that name. however she has been impersonated A LOT.

EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 07:04:30 2011 No.3182977
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>>3182966
ahahah! oh fucking hell you're deluded. clearly i wont be able to convince you, this is as futile as arguing with a creationist.
if you actually bother to lurk the archives for threads that me and her have boyh posted in, it would be pretty clear that we arnt the same.
but you arn't going to, are you? you'd rather indulge in your little samefag fantasy and ignore all contradicting evidence, just to troll me with your ignorance.

fine by me, brah. DILLIGAF.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 07:05:30 2011 No.3182982 chovav?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 07:05:30 2011 No.3182984 >>3182977 Shut up and learn how a penis works, you dumb cunt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 07:06:30 2011 No.3182985 >>3182977 >implying care

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 07:07:30 2011 No.3182992 >>3182977 Lol, EK hates herself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 07:08:30 2011 No.3182998 >>3182977 >Everyone's deluded but me! I can't believe you don't catch on. You're deluded.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 07:09:30 2011 No.3183000 >>3182992 wat?

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Mon Jun 6 07:09:30 2011 No.3183002 File: 120 KB, 491x398, nou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3182998 but i'm right though. <<<

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 07:09:30 2011 No.3183004 >>3182977 clearly you do, otherwise you wouldn't post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 6 09:02:30 2011 No.3183300 >>3182900 >>3182900 w axis should be log base 10.... 0, 1, 10, 100, 10^3, 10^4 etc

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