/sci/ - Science & Math

"I always lie. Is this statement true or not?"

"Where do you get your information from?"

How can I make you with the current available technology?

Is morality subjective, or are certain things universally good?

>>3126116

Seriously? Of all things?

Seriously?

Ugh.

>>3126138
People have asked this question forever. I'd like a definitive answer.

>>3126065
Would you like to play a game of thermonuclear war?

Is there a god/thread

How can something which holds all information in the universe not be the size of said universe?

How can I become like you?

>>3126071
No possible answer.

>>3126073
Not.

>>3126116
Morality is subjective.

>>3126166
You don't.

>>3126158
Durr.


Surely you faggots can do better than this.
>>3126072
The machine has its own database with knowledge obviously.

>>3126184
>presuming to answer for an infinite intelligence
FAGGOTRY HO!

How can I effectivily increase the maximum erect length and girth of my penis? Disregaurding erections.

how do i systematically change the presumptions and assumptions my brain makes so that I can configure my personality to anything I want?

What's your personality type? Take the MBTI online now http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

>>3126184
>The machine has its own database with knowledge obviously.
Then who filled it with ALL POSSIBLE KNOWLEDGE?

>>3126197

I started reading and I guessed where you would go with this;a slight smirk

I continued and chuckled at "erect"; then my initial belief of the point you were trying to make solidified

"length and girth of my penis.."
I lol'd hard at this point.

What are the fundamental equations describing our physical reality?

>>3126203
That level of self-modification might be unstable. What is the Nash equilibrium for a self-altering mind? Every change you make, your fundamental goals and values will change. Where does that stop, if at all? And do you (right now) want to start that process?

It's a trick question. Machines cannot have intellect.

>>3126209
Your Type is
ENTJ

>>3126073

yfw it says you can't

How can the net amount of entropy of the universe be massively decreased?

Can an infinitely intelligent and knowledgeable machine create something even it cannot know??????????

>>3126260
Hey, even I can answer that. You just tunnel into another universe that consists of infinite energy expanding in all directions. Somehow regulate the flow of energy into this universe so ours isn't destroyed. BAM!

How can you upgrade yourself?

>>3126260

INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER

>>3126231

i'd assume that i have knowledge with how to tinker with every little bit, i could sort of, very carefully tweezer out the shit bits.

what can change the nature of a man?

Tell me, computer, who is the fairest one of all???

>>3126065
How would I go about making a duplicate of you?

>>3126305
dunno lol

Who was phone?

What, exactly, is conciousness?

What, exactly, makes up matter?

That's easy.

"What would be the answer you would give to the best possible question for me to ask you in order to gain information which would lead to me reaching a state of near omniscience and immortality similar to yours in the shortest amount of time?"

You use the omniscience of the omniscient being to work for you, duh.

>intelligent and knowledgeable machine

Oh, a Turing Oracle, easy: Predict every moment in the future history of the Universe.

inb4 QM

How do I destroy you without you becoming aware of the fact that you to gave me the information?

what is the question of life, universe and everything?

So, what's my next question Mr know-it-all?

>he answers 'Yes'
>trollface.jpg

>>3126364
The Answer is 42.

But it's too late to ask what the Question is now.

>>3126364
Let's break this down:
>What would be the answer you would give to:
>the best possible question for me to ask you in order to gain information which would lead to me reaching a state of near omniscience and immortality similar to yours in the shortest amount of time?
It doesn't matter what question would be the best possible to gain (etc) because there's a chance the best question is invalid or undoable, so the answer could be a useless 'you can't do that'.

Instead, reformulate your question focusing on the answer with the most gain, not the theoretical question with the most potential gain.

Also, the answer could be a simple "yes" if the best question was "should I do (etc) to gain (etc)?" because "best" could mean simplest and most straightforward.

What don't I know?

Ask it that.

Why?

What is the unified theory of everything like?

In the old animated shorts, Gumby had perfectly round eyes, but in the movie version, they were oval. Why did they feel the need to make this little change to the character design? Also, how come all the merchandise shows him with red pupils, even though they were black in the movie? Even the Gumby in the Gameboy Advance game had red pupils. What's the mystery behind Gumby's eyes?

>>3126402
I think it is meant to be parsed differently:
"What would be the answer you would give to the best possible question for me to ask you"
OK, what kind of best?
>... in order to gain information which would lead to me reaching a state of near omniscience and immortality similar to yours in the shortest amount of time?"
There.

They way you parsed it, I agree, it wouldn't be much use.

>>3126409

everything minus what you do know.

>>3126395
That's common knowledge, duh. That's why I asked for the question.

What are the equations for a unified field theory?

What do you do tonight, smarty?

>>3126428
Oh, then this guy understood you correctly?
>>3126402

The Question might interesting, but it's hardly the same as also having the Answer.

>>3126419

That was the intent, yes. I suppose if I had time to draft it up as a legal document I could add that the knowledge gained through me asking the question would have to make it absolutely true that I could gain said power within a certain timeframe, and that his omniscient knowledge of my own mind and my own intentions should be used to create an answer that would fit all of the above criteria rather than simply taking the words spoken at face value.

>>3126447

This >>3126428
was not me.

Now that I rethink it, it would be more like:

"Based on your knowledge of my mind and my goals, what would be the series of events I could undertake which would give me a 100% chance of achieving those goals in the shortest amount of time?"

>>3126464
Too self-centered - you assumed your goals are well-formed.

How about "Based on your knowledge of all possible states of being, what would be the series of events I could undertake which would give me the highest possible chance of achieving the state of being that I would prefer to all others, if I also had an understanding of all possible states?"

That way, your own limited understanding of what would be a good idea doesn't get in the way.

>>3126480

As Omniscience is one of those goals, that would really be the point where I could figure out whatever other goal is required.

>>3126488
But what if you got caught in a dead end, aware of a preferable existence but unable to achieve it? It's a risky thing not to cover at the start.

>>3126493

Total omniscience would include a way to achieve that preferable existence, or it by definition would not be total omniscience.

This is the problem with fucking with absolutes. It's a bit far even for a thought experiment.

stupid questions. stupid questions everywhere.

- why do people ask questions regarding the machine itself? where's the profit?
- why do people ask questions, where they expect that there is no answer or no answer can be given?
like if you ask
>How can I make you with the current available technology?
or
>How can I become like you?
the answer might be you can't - so isn't that a bit risky.
- why do people ask questions which seem to imply the answer would magically upgrade their persona (like giving omniscience)?
- why do people ask useless questions like
>What are the fundamental equations describing our physical reality?
why do you expect, in the case that reality really can exactly be described by physics, that humans understand the math yet.

>>3126507
They're all attempts to realize ultimate goals - generally of knowledge, power, and happiness (possessing a highly preferred state). What's wrong with that?

And the questions about the machine itself are either recognizing it as a preferable state and attempting to copy it, or attempting to copy the machine itself and essentially "wishing for more wishes".

I would ask, "What is the answer to this question?"

>>3126550
"This is it."

P = NP?

Oh, who am I kidding, we all know the answer is no.

where are my pants ?

I would ask it
"sup man?"

>>3126562
ask for a simple proof that P != NP ?

simulate Gauss

>>3126417
Truly, this man has his priorities straight.
And here I was thinking about asking why the fire temple music in OOT got changed after a number of cartridges had been made, even though it was before the earliest actual release date.
What a fool I was.

>>3126572

To which the silent whisper of information whirring about arouses within the incredibly vast machine, slowly accruing into an ominous symphony of technological marvel simply to reply:

"Nothin' much."

True or false: This statement is false

"Why did Alfred E Neuman win American Idol?"

>>3126065
"Is infinite knowledge, and therefore the ability to do anything that is doable, equivalent to goodhood?"

No, seriously, I would ask it how to make catgirls.

>>3126071
It is invalid.

>>3126072
Observation.

>>3126073
You can't.

>>3126116
The meaning of your question is subjective.

>>3126138
Yes, seriously. Only one question each. Next!

>>3126147
No, thank you.

>>3126153
There is thread.

>>3126158
Most information in the universe is highly compressible.

>>3126166
You can't.

>>3126410
/lolthread

>>3127160
see
>>3126195

>>3126065
Is my theory of the universe correct? I really don't want to waste time developing the idea if it's not.

>>3127187
>implying that these questions aren't all stupid and easily answered by a finite intelligence

>"I always lie. Is this statement true or not?"

How could it be true in any situation?
If you always tell the truth, then saying you always lie is a lie.
If you always lie then saying you always lie is telling a truth.
If you tell truth and lie at various times, then saying you always lie is still untrue.

The statement can never be true.

>>3127196
Your little theory? The answer is always No. No theory in the history of man has been Truth. And you think yours might be?

How do I make a past/future moving time machine with available technology?

>>3127202
>implying answering a question is identical to receiving proof of veracity

>>3127222
>belittling somebody on an anonymous image board
Does it make you feel all big and bad?

how do i travel faster then light?

>>3127255
By entering a universe that obeys different physical laws.

>>3126065
ITT: People not informed that OP's machine is an asshole.

>>3127271
LOL this. It was never indicated that the machine is truthful, or benevolent.

>>3127240
No theory is Truth. Anyone with delusions of possessing Truth should be informed of this. It's good for them. Benevolent, even.

>>3127202
Implying the computer doesn't have a finite amount of knowledge due to having a finite amount of storage and a finite amount of time to gather and process information.

Does P=NP?

>>3127340
if N = 1

Is it not possible to use the conventions of written English to avoid asking a question without a satisfying answer?

E.g.: "If it is not possible to construct a machine like you (in which case tell me how), how can I maximize my happiness?"

Obviously the actual questions would need more qualifiers and details, but only the syntax is important here.

Note that the first question is addressed to /sci/ and not the theoretical machine.

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>3127897

I WAS GOING TO PUT INB4 AND THEN THAT QUESTION AT THE END OF

>>3127883

I HAD THE TAB OPEN AND EVERYTHING. BUT THEN I THOUGHT, "FUCK IT /SCI/ ISN'T THAT STUPID."

WELL, SHIT.

>>3127883
you mean the same way we figure out which of 3 gods always lies?

>>3127920

what? explain please.

If you were to explain to me, in a manner that you know I can understand, how the universe works and what my place in the universe means comparitively and absolutely, what would you do and say?

Will you help me find happiness?

Do free will exist?

>>3127920

Learned about transformers today in school and how they induce current from an energized coil of wire into another coil with out even touching via magnetic field. This results in a current of high or lower voltage in the secondary coil depend on how it's set up.

My question is there any reason why a device couldn't be made using electromagnetic fields to induce a brainwave state?

I know there are "binural beats" that try to do this by means of two separate frequencies in each headphone combining in the head to set it into a particular frequency.

Thoughts?

>>3126071

ffs everyone in this thread is stupid because they can't answer the first fucking question in it.

obviously the answer to it is 'no, you do not always lie' - the fact that then the statement is infact a lie does not fucking matter.

>you do not always lie
>not always lie
>always lie
<ALWAYS

Why didn't life evolve into peaceful beings that were immortal and were extremely intelligent?

is evolution masochistic and sadistic or some shit?

>>3127966
Hard determinism is wrong.
no point to living if you are a hard determinist, might as well kill yourself.

I would ask, "What is the exact scientific process toward achieving clinical immortality?"

>>3128512

even a peaceful immortal being would enjoy a nighmarish "dream" now and then just as "humans" enjoy horror flicks

also an immortal godlike being would have dreams so realistic you could easily get lost in one thinking it were real life

:)

Silly people, the most beneficial answer is to ask it how to build another god-computer using practical and achievable methods that can answer an unlimited amount of questions about life, the universe and everything.

IS THIS MATH CLASS??

>>3126071
the answer is no. if you dont always lie that that statement might be true

>>3128519

Just because you don't like it, it's wrong? Seriously?

I beat portal 2. U mad?

>>3126417

ever heard of google?

You see, black and white television was prevalent in the 50's, and we noticed that the red beads on Gumby and Pokey's eyes were not prominent enough. They faded into the rest of the light gray of their bodies, so we changed to little black discs on the eyes of Gumby and a darker eye for Pokey. The expression was much clearer and sharper on TV. So that is the reason we changed them.

>>3126065
"Do you know Cleverbot?"

>>3129689
Well, this doesn't answer either of my questions, actually. Far be it from me to accuse you of heinous fraudulence, but admittedly, I do get the feeling that you're not really an infinitely intelligent and knowledgeable machine, but merely a fallible impostor.

What is the most important question with an answer that I do not know yet that I can ask, and what would it's answer be?

Who was phone?

Why can't we do more than 299792458 m/s and why is max speed ridiculously slow on the universal scale?

Will my consciousness exist forever?

Why my conciousness is tied to my particular body.

What created the first particle of matter?

lottery numbers

>>3126071
ERROR! ERROR!

Why must I scream?

>>3129916

AWKWARD!!

why

>>3129820

We already know half the reasons we can't go faster than light speed.