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3094389 No.3094389 [Reply] [Original]

What led Einstein to the ideas of length contraction and time dilation? Is it just because they 'worked'? Because there should be plenty of ideas that just work when you start making ridiculous (at the time) claims. Did he just get lucky?

>> No.3094393

Lsd

>> No.3094397

lorrentz

>> No.3094406
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>>3094393
>LSD
>1906

>> No.3094409

It is because they worked.

>Because there should be plenty of ideas that just work

No.

This is what people think when they believe science is just "hurr i had an idea". For something to "work" you have to fill dozens of pages with complex calculations that make sense. That's what it means to work. It's now just guesses that work because they explained them well, but because mathematics explain it perfectly.

I see a lot of people laughing when people talk about 11 dimensions and string theory and branes and quantum physics and shit like that. Why? Because they just hear about it, they don't realize people commit their lives to studying that shit and filling lots of blackboards with math and presenting to others and discussing and including things and taking things out and etc.

>> No.3094410

thought experiments in his head because he was a genius

>> No.3094415

>>3094406
>shrooms

>> No.3094416

>>3094409
>String theory

You have no credibility.

>> No.3094434

Because experiments and Maxwells equations both pointed at the speed of light being constant for all observers. And when you take that sentence seriously and think about what it means if it is true, you get Lorentz transformations which imply time dilation and length contraction.

>> No.3094439

trains and clocks

>> No.3094478

>>3094434
So Einstein just stole others peoples work and added to it?

>> No.3094489

>>3094478
He beat them up first and stood on them.

>> No.3094495

>>3094478
Einstein wasn't that smart. People just thing he was because they a don't understand how science is done and b think a high IQ means something. Most of his ideas were already around ages before.

>> No.3094514

>>3094478
That's generally what science is... Though usually people say "worked off of" instead of "stole."

>> No.3094528

>>3094514
>science
>stealing

Ever heard of ETHICS?

>> No.3094543

>>3094528
I disagreed with the use of "stealing," but I guess I didn't emphasize that enough. Didn't seem a problem at the moment because it was a joke.

I just meant that most scientists build off of earlier discoveries and that this is old news.

>> No.3094556

>>3094543
Then something should be done about it... this is new to me o_O

>> No.3094558

>>3094495
>wasn't that smart
someone is butthurt that their entire career will never amount to more than Einstein's first few years.

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3094563

Einstein analogously described the taste of the icing on the cake.

Needless to say there is plenty more to chew on in the coming centuries.

>> No.3094568

>>3094558
At least I won't die alone.

And have my brain stolen.

And be totes wrong about QM.

He was an idiot who couldn't even remember birthdays.

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>>3094568
what does remembering birthdays have to do with intelligence? My cousin with Downs can remember my birthday every year.

>he mad

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>>3094568
Super jelly.

>> No.3094601

>>3094579
>>3094586

You sound like Einstein's peers, sucking his cock because you don't want to fail that class. That's where most of his hype comes from.

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>>3094601
I'll give it to you, he wasn't the best, just the most famous, for whatever reasons. I have the feeling that you're just trolling though.

>> No.3094630

>>3094556
Not sure if serious. This is how science works. If individuals attempted to rebuild all of science from scratch, we'd get nowhere.

>>3094495
This bothers me a little. Yes, Einstein wouldn't have gotten anywhere if it wasn't for the intellectual giants that came before him like Gauss and Riemann, and even when developing GR, he made mistakes and needed help from others (say, needing the right mathematical object (the curvature tensor) to develop the theory), but he was a damn good physicist, and a brilliant, brilliant man. He is simply not the mythical lone-wolf genius that people make him out to be.