/sci/ - Science & Math

Wait, that was TODAY?

Not yet. Timezones etc.

>>2947568


No.

It's tomorrow.

>>2947559
1. A good 5-10 years if we're lucky
2. about waist deep, a lot less for America, africa, ect.
3. What is this?


>Now it's a ghost town

>>2947559
>How long will the sarcophagus last?
as long as they decide to maintain it

>How deep in shit will we be when it collapses?
not much, unless there is some graphite still there that gets exposed and starts burning, or literaly tons of highly radioactive material gets into the ground water

>nuke-scale explosion in the event of water getting to the reactor
source? the only way an explosion could occur when water gets into the reactor is if there is still fuel that wants to further oxidize (like what happened at Fukushima, when the UO2 gets exposed to H2O and oxidizes into UO3, releasing H2 gas in the process), and even if this was to happen it would be far from nuke size

>nuclear plant
>explosion

This is what the general public honestly believes

>>2947629
>Wind, solar
>reliable, isn't an eyesore

>hydro, tidal
>doesn't destroy ecosystems

>coal, gas
>people don't die mining coal or looking for oil/gas (more people die mining coal every week then nuclear power has killed in the last 100 years)
>its safer living next to a coal plant then a nuclear one

this is what the general population thinks

>>2947629
An explosion is possible, and a large one at that.
In fact, before the sarcophagus, they sent miners down below the reactor, because there was an underground river there. If the fuel made it to the river, an explosion would ensure, and even though it may not look like a nuke, it would cover Europe, Asia, Africa, the Americas, Australia and all the oceans in highly radioactive.....dust? Yes, I think dust is the word...

50,000 people not 30

>>2947650
I never heard of any river...

>>2947650
>>2947650
>Australia
an explosion in the Ukriane even if nuclear would hardly effect its neighbors let alone a continent on the other side of the world this is full retard.

>>2947677
Are you a fucking retard? The radiation from the initial incident went all around the world. There's still places in western europe where the livestock have to get tested, and still get found with levels that make them unfit for human consumption

>>2947667
Same, never heard that there was an underground river

But I have read about the radioactive lava that formed under the reactor, and the so called "Chernobylite" formations

>>2947650
>he thinks there are currents that mix air from the northern and southern emispheres

>>2947677
>dust is sent kilometers up into the air
>so light that it takes years for it all to come down
>implying dust can't be blown all the way around the world

>>2947692
So, your implying that there is absolutely no contact between the air masses in the northern and southern hemisphere at all?

Jesus Fucking Humphrey Christ /sci/ today is the stupidest I have ever seen

>>2947693
You get 1000x more dangerous radioactive dust from your local coal plant.

>>2947700
The way air currents blow prevents almost all mixing between the two. You really are a moron, aren't you?

>>2947706
asdfghjkl

>>2947706
please be a troll

>>2947715
So it's not really the south/north not mixing, it's the atlantic/pacific not mixing

>>2947701
no. Coal plants do not cause my backyard mushrooms to radiate like a uranium beacon.
I would still be very careful today with eating wild mushrooms in Europe.

>>2947722

I wish they'd glow, but sadly, they're just regular mushrooms.

>>2947722
have you considered that is because you are a retard with no grasp of reality

>>2947722
And unless you're a Russian, neither did Chernobyl.

http://www.wimp.com/encasechernobyl/

animation of the new arch

>>2947715
>global-air-currents.gif
>picture of water currents

>>2947720
What? It clearly shows the entire circulatory system is linked

>>2947730
>Looks at bottom right arrow "East Wind Drift"
>failtroll.jpg

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC202067/

The fuck is wrong with you idiots? This is fact.

>>2947738
>>2947733
Protip: the C. means current. Meaning water current. Meaning NOT AIR.

There are only two arrows that designate wind drift at the bottom.

>>2947738
>http://oceancurrents.rsmas.miami.edu/southern/antarctic-coastal.html
>The Antarctic Coastal Current, also known as the East Wind Drift Current, is the southernmost current in the world. This current is the counter-current of the largest ocean current in the world, Antarctic Circumpolar Current.
>counter-current of the largest ocean current in the world
>ocean current

>>2947756
>miami.edu
>implying university people can be trusted

0/10

>>2947738
>>2947730
>>2947715
haha pure comedy gold.
Kids, this is what happens when your google-fu sucks donkey balls.

I thought it was tomorrow unless you're in New Zealand.

I share my birthday with Chernobyl.

>>2947769
I don't see a lot of intermixing happening. It looks more like the pressure patterns keep to themselves.

>>2947741
>Halflife of Cs-137 is ~30 years
>Paper was published 18 years ago
>Values exceeded safe threshold by a modest amount

I'd say the "threat" has considerably abated.

>>2947722
>Coal plants do not cause my backyard mushrooms to radiate like a uranium beacon.

Neither do nuke plants. Probably because your glowing mushrooms are silly hyperbole.

The radioactivity from fly ash however is not hyperbole, and is a very real problem. Also the toxicity, but the radioactivity stands testament to the danger of willful ignorance.

>>2947781

1) half-life means it radiates with half power after 30 years. 18 years is not 30 years

2) mushrooms accumulate caesium. If anything, I'd be even more cautios today, cause they had 18 more years to accumulate.

>>2947799
It is not silly hyperbole, it's common knowledge. Also read the study I posted.

>>2947803
>common knowledge
>not silly hyperbole

Reported for being retarded.

>>2947800
>implying that radioactive decay of an aggregate substance is step-wise

>>2947800
Mushrooms don't keep growing, they die every year.

>>2947804

go run to mom or something.

>>2947806
Oh this is rich!

>>2947806
That's not quite true. Many mushrooms have a mycelium that lives in the soil for a long time. Still, it's an unproven assertion of his that they would continue to bio-accumulate Cs-137, especially when they're steadily losing that caesium to decay.

>>2947800
>Also read the study I posted

I don't see anything about glowing green (if anything the glow should be blue or purple), nor how that makes the vastly more globally prevalent coal ash any less dangerous.

>they had 18 more years to accumulate

More accurately, they had a few months between cultivation and death by eating. Also their dormant forms when not growing don't uptakee Cs.

>>2947806
that is not correct.
The true body of mushrooms (mycelium) can live for several hundred years. Only the reproductive organ, that we commonly eat, will live a short period. Even this can - depending on species - live for several years.

Granted, most edible mushrooms will appear only a short period.

>>2947815
Furthermore, there are other processes that could work against it. Caesium salts are highly water-soluble, so it's likely that the caesium is steadily washed out of the soil and diluted in the water-table.

>>2947821
I never said anything about glowing green in the first place? Cause that's laughable?

>>2947832

That's the thing about posting with a tripcode. We remember the laughable things you've said in other threads before fleeing them after having your arguments destroyed. A little paint of google search for new links won't make them work in subsequent threads. That sort of intellectual dishonesty is generally frowned upon.

>>2947846
Shame's on you for not recognizing a joke.

>>2947861

shame on you for being a moron

>rembecl increased
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