/sci/ - Science & Math

Calm down, bro.

> mad because space travel/transport is finally becoming profitable

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Greed gets it done, OP.

Profit fags look at science fags like science fags look at religious fags.

>lolethics

> half /sci/ thread "hurr durr put a man on mars"
> somebody say he could do it
>mfw /sci/ rage

Look at it this way. Giving the construction responsibilities to private industry lets NASA worry about the actual science instead of nuts and bolts. It also means that we can sell NASA to the public as a source of jobs and money instead of the massive waste of money people think it is.

>mfw this is actually good for the advancement of a human presence in space

You are pathetic.
If you think space travel/colonisation will ever become widespread without this happening then you need to think again.

op is either 15 years old or a retard communist

>CHINA AND RUSSIA ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE THE LEADERS OF SPACE IN 50 YEARS
Nope, that'll be private companies looking to make a profit.

:3

what if only the wealthy people are able to expand into space?

regardless of their intelligence, won't that just spread the human cancer beyond earth?

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>>2937663

>implying they'd still be rich without a working class to support them

Read about the Virginia Company, lil' bro.

Think about this, OP.
The first person to land on Mars will be able to claim it as their own.
Some rich capitalist is going to do that first, then build a disney land type theme park there with no regard for preserving history or the environment.

>>2937670

so basically "my way or the highway"

you work for my company, i give you a cushy place on this planet...MEANWHILE, the people who can afford it are getting off the planet

>>2937651

You really think China or Russia is going to let some private corporation just take over a part of the moon?

Think again, you obviously don't understand the dynamics of China or Russia and are ignorant of these two nations' history.

>>2937312

>Mars by 2030
>A bad thing

Look at it this way, this style of exploration and colonization is much more similar to European exploration and colonization during the Age of Exploration then the style of Space exploration during the Space race.

>>2937675
FUU!)(*!)(*@)(*!)(*)(#*)(*&*@)(&$(**)&

>>2937678

Yeah, but monarchs with absolute power had the say back then, now a days everyone is all about HURR DURR INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS

The outcome will be drastically different, it won't be in the state's best interest, but the companies, which is basically money, which has already shown itslef to almost destroy Earth

Humans don't explore without an economic incentive. It sucks but it's true. The Space Race wasn't done for the noblest characteristics of man, it was a dickwaving competition with the USSR. And now that we're not racing anyone, the only reason we'd go is for money.

Until we invent replicators and develop a post-scarcity economy, we won't see a benevolent Starfleet anytime soon.

>>2937704

Oh look, people realizing humans are not the sweet civilized beings they think they are, but angry monkeys. Apollo was a rocket demonstrator, nothing more. Colonization has always been a butthurt for colonized land.

Everything is because of profit, idiot. Governments support public companies because the governments themselves profit from it.

We went to the Moon just to feel good about going to the fucking Moon, because we were butthurt about Gagarin. Except they make everything sound beautiful and personal "one small step for a man...". How cute is that?

Private companies act the same way, look at Coca-cola selling happiness, look at Nike selling victory, look at Facebook selling friends. In the end, what do we have? Win-win situation, you get happy with your Coca-cola, you run far with your Nike and you talk to your friends with Facebook and all of them gets your money. They didn't force anyone, they bought your attention, you sold your money for the price of their products. And now we have someone selling space travels, someone eager not only to give you this for your money, but to improve at all times, with more people buying it and prices dropping and the service being perfected.

>>2937694

Modern medicine, infrastructure, and technologies, all built and developed from profit incentives. Science, pure science that does not create profit, requires people who produce profit to support it. Government-sponsored science, instead of corporate-sponsored science, requires tax dollars, drawn from the pockets of people working for a profit incentive.

Science, all science, every last word, every drop of ink in every page of every library book, every byte of information in digital archives, every test tube, every beaker, every particle collider...

These were all bought and paid for by greed and profit-drive.

tl;dr: Go fuck yourself, hippie.

>>2937717
^ this

Why do you think we had a development boom the last two centuries ? We put personal interest at commands, and apparently, that will have driven us to Mars.

OP is raged, but this news is thrilling. Privatization breeds competition. Competition deploys productivity. They come hand in hand. If we want to discover and create at a much quicker rate, this could be the best way of doing so. Every scientist is euphoric to discovery; this will accelerate the speed at which it is made.

Incredible news really. We have officially entered the new generation of space travel. This will lead to great things.

>>2937717

>>2937715

I am outraged from OPs stupid comments about SpaceX. Retard communist trash.

I for one look forward to starting a family on planet CocaCola IV, or Trump II

FUCK YOU OP

WE NEED TO GO INTO SPACE FOR RESOURCES, NOT YOUR BULLSHIT COLONIZATION HERP DERP

DON'T YOU PUSSY OUT ON THIS PLANET, YOU FUCKING PARASITE, YOU FUCKING NERD

>>2937675
>disneyland
>in zero gravity
>mfw

>>2939476

YEAH, SAY THAT WHEN THE SUN IS GOING TO EXPAND AND ENGULF US, ITS ALL ABOUT THE FUCKING MONEY ISN'T IT YOU DAFT FUCKING FAGGOT?!?!

>>2937800

I'm pretty sure Elon Musk said profit was not an objective for SpaceX.

As long as we get there who gives a shit what the motivation was op? You would stand in the way of progress cause you didn't like that a private company made it happen?! You are a fucking retard OP. GTFO.

p.s. Not trolling I sincerely mean that fucktard people like you make me fucking sick.

>people on mars..
get real guys
and yeah i'm rational

>>2937729
This.

All you commiefags are just jealous because government can't run shit without bankrupting itself lol

It has to be done by profit dumbfags/commiefags. You guys really need to stop using pathos ( "but, but, but the good of the common man! Those greedy capitalist will forget us!)

mfw, if you end up saving enough money you will also be able to go to mars.

Work hard and don't be a faggot and you'll one day be able to go to mars by paying admission.

Hell maybe when these "greedy" capitalist move on to bigger and better planets, your children or your childrens children can buy some Mars land when they decide to sell some of it for other projects and such.

Also, this is probably the best way to do things.

>>2940573
>your children
implying these whinny basement dwellers will ever breed.

>>2939594
>on mars
>zero gravity

One of the biggest problems with advancing into space is that it simply isn't profitable. This is a good thing, faggot.

Profit driven private endeavors are always more frugal in the end than wasteful government run programs. Besides the lack of a crippling bureaucracy, the funds are allocated more efficiently, allowing for more work to get done in a shorter amount of time for less money.
This same idea is why VA hospitals are more likely to be shit than a privately, for profit hospital (though things like university hospitals are also fairly efficient, as are things like the Shriner's children's hospital, though they only take cases with survival chances, for obvious reasons)

>>2940654
>US Healthcare costs ballooning and one of the most expensive on a per capita basis in the industrialized world
>Public funded healthcare in Canada, Europe, and Asia providing high quality care with universal coverage at lower cost

All I see is free market beliefs stated as axioms. You might want to look up what happened when in South America they decided to privatize utilities, etc.

>>2937312

OP is a dumbass

NASA is good at research and new technology, no point wasting billions for them to do something no more technically difficult than the moon.