/sci/ - Science & Math

Prof. Dan Shechtman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZRTzOMHQ4s
Infinite Battery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcCLIwlbhLc

Fourteen years of quasi crystal research has established the existence of a wealth of stable and meta-stable Quasi crystals with five-, eight-, ten-, and twelve-fold symmetry, with strange structures and interesting properties. New tools had to be developed for the study and description of these extraordinary materials.
I've discovered that the classified research has shown that Quasi crystals are promising candidates for high energy storage materials, metal matrix components, thermal barriers, exotic coatings, infrared sensors, high power laser applications, and electro magnetics. Some high strength alloys and surgical tools are already on the market.

The batteries are also solar powered.
Dye-Sensitized Solar Cells – Functional Polymers in Series
he increasing demand for global energy consumption has motivated people to explore renewable energy sources, such as solar energy. While silicon-based technologies have been developed to harness solar energy efficiently, they are not yet competitive with fossil fuels, mainly due to their high production costs. Cheaper solar energy technologies are therefore in urgent demand. In this context, a new type of photovoltaic device, the dye-sensitized solar cell (DSC) based on nanocrystalline TiO2, has been developed, which is characterised by relatively high efficiency (>11% at full sunlight) and low fabrication cost.

Although conventional DSCs have achieved great success in the past two decades, the utilization of liquid electrolytes containing iodine/iodide redox is a practical barrier to their long-term use. This has led to rapid development of solid-state DSCs (SDSCs) based on organic hole-transporting materials (HTMs). Now, in new work, researchers led by Prof. Liu Bin from the Department of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering at the National University of Singapore (NUS) systematically introduce the latest research on SDSCs using conjugated polymers as HTM and analyze the bottleneck slowing further improvement for this type of devices.

>Pic of Dye-Sensitized Cells
One of the most striking illustrations of the fruitfulness of research on metallo-dielectric photonic crystals is probably the development of the so-called metamaterials, which are expected to provide a new approach towards negative refraction, through the simultaneous control of the effective permittivity and the effective permeability.

Since metamaterials are dependent upon the structure of the material rather than the properties of the atoms that make up it's composition, it is possible to build photonic metamaterials using packed nanospheres. Recently major breakthroughs have occurred in Nonlinear Liquid Crystal Nano-Metamaterials which use nanosphere- and nanoshell-doped liquid crystals can produce metamaterials with a tunable refractive index!

>>2915725
So the battery could be invisible as well.
>>2915704
The organic HTMs in SDSC in a Quasi Crystal Infinite Battery would be replaced with quasi crystal background radiation absorbing metamaterial

Derka Derka troll derp

>>2915773
So Quasi Crystals are TROLL?
Seriously why is eveyone so fucking afraid?
Its a real state of matter.
It really could make a battery.

How to make things Invisible
Scientists and researchers have made lots of important discoveries in the field of metamaterials, they have found ways to bend light so the it passed around an object as if it weren't even there. So now the hunt has been on to find a Metamaterial that will do this for the visible frequency range, so that visible light will pass around an object making it appear as if it weren't even there.
A metamaterial is a material which gains its properties from its structure rather than directly from its composition. Kind of like the way you can see through a screen becuase of the holes in it. If you get up close to the screen you can see that it is made of something but from far away you can see right through it.

Using Reflectors to Increase Dye-Sensitized Solar Cell Efficiency. Solid-state dye-sensitized solar cells are a rapidly developing field of research, in large part because of their high power conversion efficiencies and low manufacturing costs. Many attempts at further improving the performance of these devices have focused on increasing light absorption through the design of dyes that strongly absorb visible and near-infrared light. In a recently published study researchers from Stanford University (USA), the École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (Switzerland), and the Chinese Academy of Sciences (P. R. China) take a different approach, focusing instead on the development of a plasmonic back reflector that helps dye-sensitized solar cells to absorb more light. They find that even solar cells made from organic dyes with strong absorptions show increased efficiency when the patterned back reflector is incorporated.Researchers fabricated the back reflector used in their study by pressing a mold with an array of nanodomes into the titanium dioxide layer of the solar cell. As a result, the silver electrode of the dye-sensitized solar cell had a honeycomb pattern on its surface. This fabrication method is cheap, scalable, and provides good control over the characteristics of the resulting nanopattern. Experimental studies of solar cells made with two different dyes showed increased performance in devices with the patterned electrode compared to devices without it. Using theoretical studies in combination with the experimental results, the authors conclude that the patterned silver electrode guides incoming light into plasmonic modes that travel in the plane of the solar cell and extend well into the semiconducting layer. Combining such back reflectors with the development of more strongly absorbing organic dyes is a promising path toward making even more efficient dye-sensitized solar cells in the future.

>>2915655
what the fuck is wrong with this guy? why not sell the idea as a "super efficient solar panel" instead of touching on the free energy crazy train?

He's destroying his own credibility where he might have SOME.

>>2915825
Metamaterials like those creating invisibility following the left hand rule could be used for a reflector for max efficiency. Do we really need oil or wind or hydro or nuclr?

>>2915835
Its not jsut a super efficient solar cell
It draws quantum energy but its not free its cosmic background radiation right? Plus since quasi-crystal research is largely classified trying to make commercial gain will result in stifling of research development and some right? With security laws and what not appliing to patents

>>2915835
And the credibility of the science need not rest on the messenger describing it to you if it is personally discernable through your own research observation experiments. Do you believe you could build a quasi crystal battery. Not just a solar cell but a battery tapping the ether/vacuum/zeropoint/cosmic background radiation?

watever this is much more interesting that the other stupid threads but if you cant handle the truth meh

>>2915855
but he's selling it as "perpetual energy". It makes him look crazy.

>>2915949
its not perpetual? To some a fag is a cig. Word taboos are ur bias not everyones. Whatever the terminology its kinda a big deal

1. Use it to power a laser.
2. Point laser back at crystal.
3. Universe explodes.

>>2915971
Except the term "perpetual energy" is snake oil.

Whether you want to call it bullshit, lies, qauckery or idiocy. It's the same thing in the end. No amount of wordplay makes an impossible concept possible.

>>2915990
OMG paradox111!!elven!
Maybe you could have a buildup like they say Tesla could do with energy sent into the earth's core and bounced back. With that amount of power create say torsional field waves? uch strong a force to bend time? Time Machine Much? In b4 John Titor David Anderson etc

>>2915971
words have emotional connotations. Ass pies like you don't have feelings, so what the fuck would you know?

If you tell the average person "I have a perpetual energy machine" and even specifically tell that to a scientist, they are going to get irritated, probably bored and think you're a fuck head. And they should.

Connotation is everything. Message counts.

>>2915999
Cute knee jerk response. Lets focus on the ontology. Or not.
Is there nothing perpetual about the energy it purports to use? It being cosmic background radiation maybe it will run out one day but it's kinda close to perpetual. Quasi crystal batteries are not bs. But he could try and distance himself from bullshit by using better words agreed. But what do you think about quasi crystal batteries or would you want to discuss the tube uploadrs hair color instead?

>>2916039
>Is there nothing perpetual about the energy it purports to use?
Absolutely not, you should probably learn what the word perpetual means.

>>2916028
>If you tell the average person "I have a perpetual energy machine" and even specifically tell that to a scientist, they are going to get irritated, probably bored and think you're a fuck head. And they should
Maybe sensitive scientists. OMG you called the sun helios and said we orbit it. Its right but you called it helios the sun god so ur a fuck head

>>2916046
Here's a guess, continuous. Focus on the ontology. Plato's vagueness of words applies. The energy is continuous.Didnt mention motion either, which yes, perpetual motion is bs.
But ya lets talk about everything but the quasi crystals....
What do you think of quasi crystal batteries

>>2916064
I don't understand what you're getting at. I don't speak ass pie.

>>2916046
>continuing or continued without intermission or interruption
for human purposes is basically ceaseless and unchanging. maybe "quasi-perpetual" for quasi crystals haha

>>2916075
>What do you think of quasi crystal batteries
I think this fucking thread is what happens when philosophy major drop outs try their hand at science. Fuck you and your magic sand batteries.

>>2916098
People have a problem with looking past a label thats their problem. It doesnt reflect the validity of the thing which the label is applied. Intelligent people can handle listening to what they have a distaste for or don't agree with and can use logic to see what truth it contains without emotionally dismissing whatever they are listening to off hand.
Lrn2Enchiridion
Your emotions are within your power. There is nothing inheirently distasteful about the word perpetual energy. Only memes concerning it can evoke emotional response. And a scientists reponse when considering the truth of something should be a logical one. Asking for proof or explaination rather than "you're a fuckhead"

>>2916106
This thread is not about philosophy at all. Only the derails by idiots are.
Quasi crystal batteries are being researched by large corporations and governmental institutions. Period. Fuck you ludite. You dont want the future and it doesnt want you

>>2916106
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0921509303011201
right magic bullshit.
What are you a high school math teacher? lrn2newscience

Abstract

The formation, stability and structures of the icosahedral phase (i-phase) and related complex crystal and amorphous phases in Ti/Zr/Hf alloys are reviewed. Most attention is focused on the TiZrNi quasicrystal, demonstrating that this i-phase is a low-temperature stable quasicrystal, forming almost 300 °C below the liquidus temperature. The persistence of the i-phase at low temperatures after very long duration anneals suggests it as the first realistic candidate for a ground-state quasicrystal. A structural model for i(TiZrNi) is presented, the first for any Ti/Zr/Hf-based quasicrystal; the energy is lower than for competing crystal phases, in agreement with the results of the annealing studies. With sufficient undercooling, metastable i(TiZrNi) nucleates in preference to a polytetrahedral C14 Laves phase, suggesting a local icosahedral order in the liquid. X-ray data are presented to support that conclusion. Hydrogen storage properties of these alloys are discussed briefly and pressure composition isotherm measurements are presented and analyzed. A new Ti–Hf–Ni crystal approximant that has superior hydrogen adsorption properties is discussed. Origins of quasicrystal nanostructures, formed by crystallizing Zr-based metallic glasses are proposed.
Ti/Zr/Hf-based quasicrystals
Author Keywords: Icosahedral phase; Ti/Zr/Hf alloys; Polytetrahedral C14 Laves phase

>>2916022
lol as if bending time is a big deal. All objects' gravities bend spacetime. And a supermassive black hole would do a hell of a better job than Tesla's machine. It doesn't mean that you can "time travel" with the thing. At least not enough to matter.

>>2916106
pwned
>>2916137
Thats a link to a Science Journal Publication but you wouldnt know anything about those let alone have them influence your asinine ignorance of science

>>2916138
Tesla machine? I doubt he knew about quasi crystals let alone could harvest torsional field waves which could allow for energies near blackhole level

>>2916124
people who sell solar panels don't call it "perpetual energy". Yes the sun will be there for billions of years, but that doesn't make it perpetual energy.

Fuck it, who cares about mincing words? Why undermine a good idea and ruin your credibility by attaching the idea to something with no credibility?

Let me give you an example of what it looks like from the outside:

>"I have invented free perpetual energy. I'm also a homeless high school drop out on the sex offender's list. In order for me to share perpetual energy with you, you have to let me smell and lick you."

Gee, I wonder why no one is interested in your perpetual energy.

>>2916138
>And a supermassive black hole would do a hell of a better job
As if that would be easier to control than a man made device. Volcano can heat my soup better than a stove but

>>2916150
Well its their loss and its not photoelectric only. That guy graduated college goes to MIT and isnt on any lists. His professors listen to him. Maybe you're "projecting" Plus again what do you think about cquasi crystal batteries

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The crazies are out.. eurofags are just waking up, that explains it.

>>2916150
Call a discovery something else due to the fact that many in the scientific community have their heads up their asses? No sir, you move.

>>2916179
>Recently, interest has focused on the Ti/Zr/Hf-based quasicrystals for potential technological use, particularly in hydrogen storage and battery
Crazy like a fox.You sound like Lineus Pauling. It's not the 1980s dude quasi crystals are real faggot
In classical crystallography a crystal is defined as a threedimensional periodic arrangement of atoms with translational periodicity along its three principal axes. Thus it is possible to obtain an infinitely extended crystal structure by aligning building blocks called unit-cells until the space is filled up. Normal crystal structures can be described by one of the 230 space groups, which describe the rotational and translational symmetry elements present in the structure. Diffraction patterns of these normal crystals therefore show crystallographic point symmetries (belonging to one of the 11 Laue-groups). In 1984, however, Shechtman, Blech, Gratias & Cahn published a paper which marked the discovery of quasicrystals. They showed electron diffraction patterns of an Al-Mn alloy with sharp reflections and 10-fold symmetry. The whole set of diffraction patterns revealed an icosahedral symmetry of the reciprocal space. Since then many stable and meta-stable quasicrystals were found. These are often binary or ternary intermetallic alloys with aluminium as one of the constituents. The icosahedral quasicrystals form one group and the polygonal quasicrystals another (8,10,12-fold symmetry). We can state that quasicrystals are materials with perfect long-range order, but with no three-dimensional translational periodicity. The former is manifested in the occurrence of sharp diffraction spots and the latter in the presence of a non-crystallographic rotational symmetry.

>>2916158
Okay, then if proper messaging and ideas aren't important then who cares if this idea will solve all of our energy problems. It could be the perfect solution to everything, but coal companies with billions of dollars and entire PR and advertising companies behind them to completely crush this idea until we're back to the fucking stone age but in a post apocalyptic polluted world.

What the fuck does it matter what a handful of anonymous people on the internet think about "quasi crystal batteries"? You said governments and corporations are already researching them- so I guess it'll run its goddamned course right into nothing.

tl;dr I could give a shit, that's what I think.

>>2916181
Fianlly so intelligence.
I can't tell if the others are trolls.
This is amazing stuff.
Mayeb its stockholm syndrome.
They love their abusive gas tanks
Cant imagine life wihtout them

U Mad?
>What the fuck does it matter what a handful of anonymous people on the internet think about anything.
Seriously why is any thread here.
>You said governments and corporations are already researching them- so I guess it'll run its goddamned course right into the hands of your overlords
far from your reach

>waiting for apologies, "Oh my mistake they are real and being researched"...
>Holding breath
Srsly no one is studing these i thought you were scientists? You've never been exposed to them? Not even the idea of quasi crystals?
They're from THE 80S!

>>2916223
And no one gives a fuck (since the 80s™) because the term "perpetual/free energy" is being used.

It's like naming the cure for cancer "AIDS!"

>bad P.R.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer

Guess which stage most of the people in this thread are on.

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what the fuck is wrong with this guy? why not sell the idea as a "super efficient solar panel" instead of touching on the free energy crazy train?

He's destroying his own credibility where he might have SOME."

Some people just can't handle the truth. Sure, technically the cosmic background is not "infinite," but in practical human terms it is effectively unlimited.

>>2916318
>Stage one: People ignore quasi crystal batteries because of one overdramatic irritating faggot on an image board with delusions of grandeur.
Stage two: Word gets about about this flailing shithead and people ignore quasi crystal batteries some more. Human history advances and everyone continues to use coal.
Stage three: Mankind is extinct and quasi crystal batteries are only a small blip in their advanced culture. Never used beyond testing in a laboratory.

>>2916344
Regardless of the /sci/ image board it's pretty clear that research into quasi crystals and meta materials has been ongoing for at least three decades. It hardly matters if you don't like the idea of "extremely cheap" energy, others do and are working toward it.

>>2916392
Extremely cheap energy violates the laws of concentration of power

>>2916318
>assuming said thing is true.

Most shit passes through 1 phase -> garbage bin

>>2916552
They also avoid the whole need to perform work in a system. Very devistating.

>>2916610
was almost the case with Prof. Shechtman and the acknowledgement of the existence as state of matter
>was ridiculed by the scientific community when he came forward with evidence for Quasicrystals. He was even fired from a group headed by Dr. Linus Pauling, a Nobel prize winner.
So what happens when power is decentralized and work in a system is not needed to survive?