/sci/ - Science & Math

Troll?

You cannot become physically addicted to marijuana. It is not possible. You can become addicted to it the way you are addicted to video games or television, but not physically.

You're an idiot.

>>2913170
>you can become addicted to it the way you are to television or video games

so you can become addicted like you would be to sex then?

>>2913169
Because it is not a drug that you can get a physical addiction to.

You can get physical addictions to caffeine, nicotine, most prescription sleep aids, alcohol, cocaine, many other illegal substances, but not pot.

You can get addicted to it, like some people claim to get addicted video games, or over eating, but not an actual physical addiction.

>>2913170
>implying MA isn't chock full

http://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/

>>2913169
>why do potheads think that they can't get addicted to pot.
Well why do you think they can? State your evidence. It sounds like you are also working off as much of an assumption as they are.

>>2913177
There is a sex addicts anonymous as well.

why do trolls think that they can't get addicted to 4chan?

>>2913179
the border between physical and psychological addiction is a false one, and is pure dualism.

>>2913179
>>2913176
[citation needed]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16169014

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/11/1967

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-addiction/201001/is-marijuana-addictive-you-can-bet-yo
ur-heroin

Can you get withdrawal after quitting pot after smoking for a long time?
If yes, you were addicted.
If no, you weren't.

New Zealander here (Kiwifag?).

Check the pic: This shit has recently come out on the market. It's basically an "alternative, legal high" for marijuana. I was actually astounded to find out that it's actually similar in terms of potency and feel to marijuana. "Legal highs" tend to be bogus, so ofc I was skeptical.

But the shit's legit. Literally, it's legal, although it's getting a ton of media attention now. But it's kind of head-banging, really: They're ok with this mix of a ton of different psychoactive herbs, but they freak the fuck out if they happen to find a bit of weed? There's no way all of these various herbs have had nearly the same amount of research on them.

>>2913183
how is it that a person can be physically addicted to something like sex, and not something that you PHYSICALLY inhale into your system, affecting your brain and stimulating your perception?

>>2913179
>He doesn't know about psychological addictions

>>2913189
Blatant lie, the withdrawal systems from certain physical addictions can be bad enough to cause death.

>>2913191
Those are psychological addictions notice how you reported to psychological sources.

>>2913198
I do know about them, that is why I included the last sentence mentioning some things you can get "addicted" to. Over eating, video games, later I mentioned sex.

I've seen so many people who got addicted to pot. They claim its not addictive/they arent addicted to it but its obvious they are. They immediately start smoking when they wake up and continue to do so all day. Not smoking for half a day is considered a long time for them. Many even joke about needing it to function while claiming they arent addicted. If thats not addiction I dont know what is. If I woke up and immediately started drinking and continued to do so throughout the day there would be no question about my alcoholism. Why is weed different?

>>2913231

You eat food when you wake up, and continue to do so throughout the day. Are you addicted to it?

>>2913170
>You can become addicted to it the way you are addicted to video games or television, but not physically.
Exactly. /thread

>>2913237
food is a necessity not something you would do for leisure like weed.

plus i hear food is kind of good for your health.

>>2913231
>>2913231
I play videogames from morning to night, the only time I don't do it is at work. What's the problem? Your friends are just doing what they like.

>>2913231

There's a big difference between being physically addicted to something, and just doing something you enjoy as much as you can.

>>2913197
blatant non sequiter.

death is proof that some addiction is physical, not proof that some addiction is not.

you have poor logic skills

all psychological addiction has a physical basis, in brain chemistry or structure.

obvious one is cocaine, which has negligible "physical" addiction outside the brain, but is dopaminergic to such a degree that "psychological" addiction is massive.

>>2913254
I smoked weed every day for a month, I quit for a week without feeling any withdrawal symptoms, or any need to smoke it, the only "addiction" to it is "some weed would be nice right now", which is even a rare thought.

>>2913265

Doug Benson? Is that you?

>>2913265
another non sequiter

i'm not claiming weed is addictive, just that the phys/psych distinction between addictions is false

but also you should understand anecdote is not evidence

The biggest danger from weed is that people think there are no dangers so people start using it without any restraint. Somebody starts smoking weed and next thing you know they are failing school and quit their job because they are too high and lazy all day to do anything. The entire time they deny its because of weed because "its not addictive," even though they are clearly addicted to it and its ruining their life. Similar shit happens with other things too. Everything in moderation.

>>2913275
>>2913275
Okay. But then there are some drugs with very noticable, heavy and proven "side-effects" that are had when you stop using them. Take heroin for example, weed does not have that.

>>2913276
you are confusing behaviour modification with addiction

>>2913277
who said it did?

some things are more dangerous than others? wow i never knew that.

>>2913276
I think that's a big stereotype. I know a lot of people who smoke weed, NOONE comes even near to that happening. That's an insane situation. But I guess it is very possible, just like with alcohol.

>>2913282
My point was weed does not even come any near to that.
And to differentiate between the differences, a good idea would be to call them physical and psychological.

>>2913282

Then what the fuck are you even trying to argue? You're running in circles with your fucking pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

because addiction is ill defined and they aren't using the same definition

next

>>2913292

that the distinction between phys and psych addictions is false. as i've said three times now at least. maybe actually read my posts before you get butthurt and respond with non sequiters
>>2913275
>>2913254

>>2913285
You may have never seen it happen before but Ive seen it happen to several people. It really only happens with the people who start smoking every morning and cant get any real work done because they are high.

>>2913292
stupid people who get confused accuse others of pseudo intellectualism

>>2913294
Addiction is very clearly defined

>>2913299
another stereotype you can still function high unless your really fucking baked

op here

all im saying is that a psychological addiction IS STILL an addiction.

yes you don't get physically addicted to it. but that doesn't mean YOU SHOULD SMOKE IT EVERY FUCKING DAY. it should be, like alcohol, a leisure activity, and not something that becomes your basis of living.

>>2913324
>you can function high unless your really fucking baked
>unless your really fucking baked
>unless your baked
....

>your

I smoked everyday for a year and a half while in my second year at uni. One day I could no longer afford weed and so I stopped. Thought to myself, well it will just be a short break I'll have the money to start again in a month. Been about 5 months now and I can definitely afford it however I'd rather just save my money and only smoke when out with friends. I do miss it though, ever time I see a sunset it reminds me of weed and how beautiful everything is while smoking.

Weed is not addictive for people with self control. Moderation is the key.

>>2913342
>it should be, like alcohol, a leisure activity
Op has been confirmed as a troll.

>>2913342
for most people there is nothing wrong with smoking it everyday aside from lung damage, which could be avoided by baking it into food, there are very few people who actually NEED to smoke it just people who love to do it. but that is based on personal observations

>>2913342
Now replace smoking weed with videogames, really though, people should do whatever they want as long as they don't harm others (and preferably not themselves)

>>2913389
leisure=/=everyday

leisure=every once in a while with friends