/sci/ - Science & Math

Oh god, here comes another GM vs. Organic thread.

Let me just say that Monsanto wants to patent seeds and make them sterile within a year thus making you dependent on the corporation forever.

>>2875936 laissez-faire mentality of most markets about food products
I don't think you actually know what that means. Look at that big packet of crisps. There's nutritional information, a best before date and a list of ingredients.

It's not like you can't go into a supermarket and buy potatoes, herbs, spices and oil. It's just that most people would rather have a bag of crisps than go through the hassle of preparation. However, that does not stop you from doing it. What you actually want is to force people to do things your way which makes you far worse than how you view everyone else.

You might be correct but your utilitarian hippy mentality alternative won't catch on.

Also, prove to us that processing is bad for your health.

>>2875964
The only argument I need to make is in this picture.

How is it better for me to cook food from scratch at home? My body doesn't think, oh those vitamins came from an oven hundreds of miles away, guess I won't use them any more than it doesn't clog my arteries with LDL cholesterol because I took the time to prepare the food containing it myself.

>>2875964
There's a lady who has taken day-by-day photographs of a Big Mac. It has not even gotten mold in 6 months. There's something amiss about that.

>>2875974

If that's your evidence then you should not be on /sci/. Heavy people can be healthy, just as skinny people can be unhealthy. Also, it doesn't prove that mcdonalds caused them to be fat. That could be the first time they ever went to mcdonalds.

>>2875974
This motherfucker is Daniel Lambert. The food he grew fat on would today be sold in the snobbiest part of the most hipstertastic market going.

The only flaw in this argument is that you make it seem as if corporations are forcing people to eat shitty food. That's not the case. If people know that McDonalds is bad for them yet go there every week then turn around and bitch how bad it is, just makes you a damn coward.

Veggiehead here. Fighting "the man".

The food industry is a giant double standard. They market and sell saturated and trans fats packaged as addictive drugs. We call it a free market but the same meat corn and dairy products are subsidized to create a false price at the counter. It is not hippy mindset to allow fair competition of alternatives to the forced niche of conglomerates and political interests
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>>2875989
This sounds like wishful thinking from a fat anon.

>>2875987
http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/11/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-bu
rger-testing-results.html

The fact is, any burger, no matter how pretentious doesn't rot well because it's fried meat. It's not an issue of preservative, it's one of cooking.

>>2875987

Wait no mold on food is a bad thing?

>>2876003
Wealthy corporations lobby all the time for weaker regulations on how they do business, then turn around and flood all advertising venues with ads claiming their food is 100% this or all-natural that. Corporations aren't forcing people to eat their shit but they're trying as hard as fucking possible. If you had the advertising budget they did you could make eating pig's feet appetizing.

>>2876006

6'3'' and 160 pounds. AND i eat fast food several times a week. And you're conjecture doesn't do anything to help prove your bullshit point.

>>2876011
That doesn't explain the bun.
>>2876005
This is the elephant in the room when people claim "well just buy healthier!". If the market is specifically set up to make cheap filler cheaper and easier to get, no wonder obesity is this high.

>>2876025 That doesn't explain the bun.
What the shit are you talking about? The bun went mouldy because the experimenter was trying to find conditions under which at least one burger would turn mouldy. In this case, it was sealed in a plastic bag to retain moisture and, if you took the time to read it, you'd find out that both became mouldy.

Try to hide your bias a little better next time.

>>2876034
Sorry, I didn't see the series of pictures where a big mac was kept in a bag.
Wouldn't a piece of grilled meat turn rancid after a while?

I don't really give a flying fuck if my food is genetically modified or not. I do care if more then half the ingredients are without nutrition, or value besides pleasing my tastebuds. I feel like SHIT if I eat lots of junk food or eat out a lot, so Ive been fixing food for my self for a long time now.

I'm done trusting strangers to fix my meals. I buy the ingredients that I find acceptable and reasonably healthy then I fix it into something awesome everyday.

>>2876044
It's hard to say, I'm not sure about how well the fats in a fried burger oxidise. The point is that, just because something doesn't go mouldy, that doesn't mean it's packed with preservatives.