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I originally posted this topic on /tv/ and got some truly idiotic responses. I hope for a more intelligent dialogue here:

This is my opinion<< OPINION on what is going on with Charlie Sheen...

Right now he is clearly experiencing a manic episode along with some psychotic features. His rapid speech, paranoia, delusions of grandeur, aggression, sexual promiscuity, and excessive drug use back this up. He is abusing alcohol and may still be on cocaine, which for a manic person tends to have a calming effect rather than a speedy effect FYI. You'll still be the same lunatic, just a more focused lunatic.

Charlie is in love with himself and thinks that everybody loves him too: The public, the media... everybody. He thinks people are laughing with him, not at him. But this grand delusion will not last forever... The depressive episode could start today, in a week, or two months from now, but IT WILL HAPPEN. A bipolar depression is not your average mildly anhedonic, Zach Braff-level dysthymia. It is extremely severe and most often melancholic.

He will likely become suicidal and will most certainly no longer be spouting funny, paranoid observations. His behavior will cease to induce schadenfreude in normal, well adjusted people; most 4channers are obviously excluded...

Basically, Charlie will be DEAD. INSIDE... LOSING!

The man needs to be left alone by the media, intervened on by his close friends and relatives, and treated in a psychiatric hospital, which is not as bad as it sounds. Most patients go in for 5-7 days, get stabilized through medication or ECT, and then go back home. Very few people are in there for life. I am not a doctor. I'm just a modestly educated man (I think) who is making some tenuous observations. Anyway, these are my thoughts on Charlie (tl;dr I know).

What do you guys think? Let's try to psychoanalyze this guy and debate this fucking fiasco.

>> No.2832961

Its all an act. What a great actor.

>> No.2832959

>The man needs to be left alone by the media

basically sums it up right here, I don't know when we starting substituting actual journalism for celebrity break-downs but we've clearly passed it

>> No.2832965

Im pretty sure its the crack

>> No.2832963

He's just a cokehead.

>> No.2832969

I think he doesn't give a fuck

>> No.2832970

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11thCOTNnS0

>> No.2832977

He said he did 6 rocks in a row.
6 Rocks!

>> No.2832983

?The man needs to be left alone
kinda ruins the whole point of the topic
seriously, why does it matter

>> No.2832993

He may have a mild form of mania, but he's exaggerating it for attention. By what basis do you assume he has bipolar disorder not just flat-out mania?

>> No.2833013

Its a mix of mania and just general attention whoring. I thought he was clean from coke for a while and detoxing can have drastic effects on the brain.

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>>2833013
>>2832993
I actually think Charlie suffers from NPD as well as bipolar 1, but of course a psychiatric "diagnosis" is never set in stone.

He could very well have unipolar mania, but his behavior leads me to doubt this. His incoherent speech, tendency to aggressively interrupt others, and substance abuse problems (among other things) cause me to believe that he will eventually crash/cycle into a depression.

Right now I believe his synapses are firing on overdrive and a human brain can only take so much excitement. One day, possibly very soon, I think his overworked synapses will stop firing... hence the depressive phase.

I could be wrong, but either way unipolar mania is no picnic, and he should be medicated. Yes, he is euphoric and a god amongst men right now, but that is clearly deluding him into thinking that he his invincible. And invincible people can't die from drugs, driving a car too fast, having unprotected sex, etc...

His attitude is fuck my job, fuck my family, fuck my life... I'm gonna do whatever I please because I'm a fucking demigod, and that's just not healthy. The man has half-a-dozen kids for Christ's sake.

>> No.2833084

<3 <3 <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg

at least there's a fun song about him/

>> No.2833110

>>2833077
>He could very well have unipolar mania, but his behavior leads me to doubt this. His incoherent speech, tendency to aggressively interrupt others, and substance abuse problems (among other things) cause me to believe that he will eventually crash/cycle into a depression.
Everything you described characterizes mania, not bipolar disorder.
>Right now I believe his synapses are firing on overdrive and a human brain can only take so much excitement. One day, possibly very soon, I think his overworked synapses will stop firing... hence the depressive phase.
You don't know what a synapse is, do you? Regardless, that isn't what mania nor depression do.
>I could be wrong, but either way unipolar mania is no picnic, and he should be medicated. Yes, he is euphoric and a god amongst men right now, but that is clearly deluding him into thinking that he his invincible. And invincible people can't die from drugs, driving a car too fast, having unprotected sex, etc...
Unless you have taken antipsychotics you are in no position to say that. I tell you from experience that being on antipsychotics is one of the worst experiences one can possibly have. All day you can't focus and have no drive and have a nagging sensation that something is "off" and you can't determine what it is. You are too tired and apathetic to move, your sex drive is nonexistent, and you tend to seclude yourself from any interactions with the outside world. I wouldn't wish it on anybody, regardless of the risks associated with not being medicated.
>His attitude is fuck my job, fuck my family, fuck my life... I'm gonna do whatever I please because I'm a fucking demigod, and that's just not healthy. The man has half-a-dozen kids for Christ's sake.
Maybe it isn't. Can anybody say they have a perfectly healthy psyche?

>> No.2833128

>>2832946
Bro, jesus fucking christ.

No one GIVES A FUCK about charlie sheen. You need a god damn life. Fuck, man.

>> No.2833140

Addictively prone people need a mask in order to live with themselves, in addition to whatever substance will quiet the bad things in their heads. Cocaine is pretty good at making you feel like whatever amazing archetype you want so there you go, he's living out all those movies in his head trying to make that his mask. He reminds me of Manuel Uribe, a guy who is literally a huge ham physically and socially.

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>>2833110
Boyo, I've taken nearly every psychotropic there is:

antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, SSRI's, MAOI's, tiycyclics, benzodiazepines, psychostimulants, hypnotics, etc...

They don't generally prescribe antipsychotics for mania or bipolar disorder. They prescribe mood stabilizers such as lithium or valproic acid.

They don't know what causes depression but they do know depressed people have "depressed" synapses... as in they transfer less neurotransmitters. With mania they produce and transfer too much neurotransmitters.

lrn2psychology and look at some SPECT scans.

>> No.2833198

>>2833183They don't know what causes depression

Lack of sun/vitamin D.
Low fat, low meat diet.
Living with crazy people.

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2833247

Wow! I was convinced that /tv/ was the dumbest board on 4chan, but you guys are definitely in the running.

I'm sorry, but you motherfuckers don't know shit about psychology.

All I'm getting are generic copy/paste responses when I was expecting (this is fucking /sci/ after all) some genuine and original arguments/opinions. Jesus Herbert Christ this board is a cesspool of ignorance.

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>>2833247
>you motherfuckers don't know shit about psychology.
>implying most of psychology is actual science
mon visage quand

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>>2833257
Nigger, you just went full retard.

Psychology is an "observational science" like astronomy, epidemiology, and geology.

It is most definitely a science. Read a goddamn book...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8

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< This thread.

>> No.2833346

>like astronomy

Astronomy is a hobby. I think you meant to say "astrology".

>> No.2833352

Are you fucking kidding me? youre diagnosing Charlie Sheen with psycological disorders because of how he acts in front of cameras?

Belive me, he isn't insane he simply talks "randomly" he makes too much sense and talks too skillfully for it to just be insanity

diagnosis house? an act

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>>2833346
>implying astrology isn't a hobby
>implying astronomy isn't exactly what I said it was

Seriously, bro. Try harder next time because that was pathetic. Maybe use a little logic next time?

These superfluous "arguments" are starting to make me genuinely sad. I thought this board was an oasis of knowledge in the desert of backasswardness that is 4chan. /sci/, I am seriously disappoint.

>> No.2833373

>>2832946

Yeah, I get the feeling that you are an example of why people have little respect for psychology....

>> No.2833380

OOOooo! Someone is trying to make love to me!

>> No.2833382

>>2833374
OOOooo! Someone is trying to make love to me!

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>>2832946
1) Who THE FUCK IS THIS?

2) WHY SHOULD I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HIM?

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>>2833352
First of all, "insanity" is a legal term. It is not used in psychology.

Second of all, you've clearly never been around a manic/bipolar person. They talk nonstop, skillfully, and with great wit. They do this because their brains are lit up like a Christmas tree. Charlie fits the bill of a maniac/bipolar disorder suffer to a T.

Obviously, I can't be certain that he has either of these conditions, but I can certainly make an educated guess. Sheen's Korner is on par with an actual diagnostic session in a clinic. You get to observe his behavior, which is what psychology is based on... The study of human and animal behavior.

Short of sitting down with him in a clinic and giving him an actual Rorschach test watching his antics on TV or on the internet is as good as it gets...

Psychology, again, is an "observational science".

pic unrelated

>> No.2833437

>>2833415
The thing is, he's putting on a performance for an audience, and by commenting on it you contribute to the pollution.

That invalidates the quality of your observation.

Magneto sure can doll hisself up.

>> No.2833491

>>2833437
The only observations we have are the ones available to the public. His stupid show, that's just a performance and we can forget that for now. But the rest, we're just speculating and extrapolating and coming to some loose fucking conclusions

Then you have OP rage when someone doesn't believe that Charlie has Bipolar I, even then, he won't be happy until we state how often he cycles, which meds he takes, if he ever goes off his meds etc. This is all available through the observations that none of us have access to.

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>>2833437
>implying Charlie isn't being absolutely 100% himself on camera

Have you ever actually watched his show? I didn't think so.

>implying my observation on this controversial and interesting personality isn't actually, in a small way, progressing the field of psychology

The more we discuss the more we learn. I'm not the media. I'm not slandering his character on national television. I'm just hypothesizing on 4chan. It's not a big deal.

>> No.2833550

>>2833528
Pathetic.

>you contribute to the pollution.

Charlie, is that you?

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>>2833550
ITT: sticks in the mud

So I guess a serious commentary is out of the question then?

No one wants to ruminate on this interesting character/situation?

No one but me finds this Charlie Sheen conundrum entertaining?

Lighten the fuck up, guys. This should be fun, not woeful.

>> No.2833642

>>2833620
>entertaining

You are easily amused. Not in a good way.

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>>2833642
fdsafdsa

................

< The king of chemical and trauma induced mania

This is now a Gary Busey thread. Fuck Year.

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>>2833736
I have never seen a man more content with being absolutely bonkers.

The man thrives on his illness. It's what drives him.

I envy this man. I really, really do.

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"And the minute they die, you can smell the rabies leave their body... It's spectacular" . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F73_nmanbVM

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2833812

Who. gives. a. shit.
WHO GIVES A SHIT
There are far more important things than shitty actors of a shitty sitcom.
There are far more important people.

Gossip is a distraction of the real world

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>>2833812

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iaNlobvJMY

>> No.2833862

two days ago. sheen booed off stage in detroit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS3C9UZlxu4

>> No.2833864

>>2833812
This.

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>>2833862
Dude, I've been looking for this everywhere.

Thank you so much.

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>>2833862
He reminds me so much of Klaus Kinski.

The egos on these two... whew!...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D86L-MoLZs0

>> No.2833914

Who the fuck is Charlie Sheen?

>> No.2833919

>>2832946
tl; dr: he's insane

>> No.2833925

>>2833812
>implying there is a fake world

>> No.2833940

>>2833812
lol you mean it's a distraction FROM the real world?
oh, wait, almost forgot: IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE NO MATTER HOW YOU SAY IT!

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