/sci/ - Science & Math

The Quick Death America Deserves.

PALIN 2012

>>2804820
we atheists need to be militant atheists.
i think we can take over the country if we're more aggressive and outspoken like dawkins.
christfags caused the dark ages; they're going to suppress scientific research (hurr stem cells iz bad) and fuck up everything like a bunch of faggot christians they are

>>2804839
Sometimes I wish America would vote for Palin.

Obama's a tool and pretty shitty and pretty centrist who is pretty much a Bush/Clinton hybrid, but Palin would destroy the country. Everyone on the right complains nonstop about Washington now, when Palin comes in they won't know what to do since its their candidate.

evangelicals gonna evangelize.

>>2804844
yeah atheists killed hundreds of millions before with communism and nazism, they can definitely do it again.

go militant atheism.

>>2804849

Move to Canada.

Let's face it; if Palin actually held any legislative power, you would either have to bulk up the Senate/Congress/everything else to the point where nothing she says has any immediate power or the country would slowly bleed out from stupid policies and wars declared on everybody.

>>2804857
0/10

>>2804857
yep, let's go crazy atheists.
let's make america an atheist state and elect richard dawkins as king.

>>2804839
>Palin

Not even twenty of the best marionnettistes can manipulate a block of wood.

thats your opinion man, but its the same stuff being flung on both sides and they both contain the same idiots looking to be special. One kid at my university walked around campus holding a giant sign saying ask an atheist anything, he got mad when no one talked to him and started screaming at people, it was kind of sad. Long story short idiots are under every banner and most of the time they wave it the most frantically, the only difference is christianity has been around longer and is organized.

>>2804865
And that, my little Christian children, is what atheism is all about!

>>2804849

Praise her and everything she does? I don't know if you have figured this out, but if its a Democrat, that person could cure cancer, colonize Mars, and pay off our entire deficit, and he would still be the son of Satan and the Anti-Christ. If its a Republican, he can fiddle while DC burns and he will be the greatest president since Reagan. That is how the rightwing in this country works.

>>2804872

That's how the left works too, dummy.

>>2804849
i've never voted in my life, because i believe the elections are all faked/rigged.

if palin gets the republican nomination, i will become a local organizer for her. i hope she gets giuliani for vp.

PALIN 2012

>>2804884
>giuliani

Well at least we'll have somebody semi-competent once she inevitably gets shot.

>>2804849

Palin's not supposed to run or hold any office.

her role in this political landscape is to provide and impetus for war when china demands alaska from us because we cannot pay our debt to them.

>>2804902
>colossal working class who are extremely unhappy
>waging war against anyone

They are the outlier

Depending on whether the Chinese government gets bitchy or the working class does, we aid which ever one of those isn't glaring at us too hard

>>2804893
i only said giuliani because i had a dream that he was the anti-christ, back in 2008.

i really just want to leave for history the message 200+ years of white men, then a nigger, then a woman and the country burned.

for the lulz.

>some fundie
The guy he was praising died in 1837.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Barton

Also I winced when he said "gunpoint".

How would you feel if I took a quote from Jeffrey Dahmer and tried to make all Atheists out to be genocidal maniacs from it?

pic related. It's what will happen if the godless Atheist hordes continue to ruin America.

/sarcasm/

>>2804884
>Palin 2012
Please be trolling.

the Republican Party is run by extremist corporatists
they know perfectly well they couldn't get elected if they were open about their policies favouring the rich and corporations and inherited wealth
so they run their campaigns based on appealing to religious fanaticism, racism, abortion, creationism, fear, paranoia, etc - the campaign managers and policy wonks and elected officials dont believe for a second or if they do it doesn't matter much*. some red meat is thrown to the lunatics and then they're forgotten about until the next election

*there is an exception to this, the teaparty BS has seen a host of climate denial true believers elected to Congress, as one of them said there can't be anything wrong because God promised Noah.
Now you put people like that in charge of policy and you can just forget any action being taken - which is what is happening as they cut funding to programs and tear up agreements.
Also bear in mind that the EPA was established by Richard Nixon, demonstrating just how far off course Republicans are today.

>>2804820

Not a religion board. GTFO.

>>2804879

Agreed, to be fair. A Republican president could cure AIDS, colonize Mars and eliminate national debt but would still be an evil war profiteer and Big Oil puppet to most liberals. On the other hand, a useless Democrat President would still be their Messiah.

>>2804916

here's what's going to happen if the economy doesn't improve.

China gets really nice with America and lets it borrow even more money.

China says to America, we will forgive you all of your debt if you give us Alaska. They will go out of their way to make it be a great deal for us. They will overpay like a bitch for that land.

This will happen during a democratic presidency (not obama, he's going to be out after this term and a republican will succeed him and then be followed one term afterwards by a democrat) So we have 4-8 years before our war with China.

Republicans are gonna be mad that democrats sold alaska (Sarah Palin especially) and there will be increasing hatred towards china/chinese goods during the next few years. This war will be what brings the global economy out of the shitter, just like WWII did.

I have to side with Neil DeGrasse Tyson... although I am a political liberal... history has shown, despite their campaigning, republicans actually allocate MORE science funding than democrats... well except for the mental health funding (Obama and Kennedy are 1 & 2 on that front)... but anyway, in terms of engineering sciences, Repubs know that = money... thus they invest in us scientists...

>>2804926

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY BOARD.

YOU WERE PART OF THE REASON WHY MOOT DELETED NEW. GTFO NOW.

>Republican Party:
>Manipulated hobbling dinosaur with old-school ideologies that frequently change based on what sponsors tell him, a functionally-retarded hick who is only paid attention to because she has tits

>Democratic Party:
>Inexperienced and borderline useless hype fountain skating by on virtue of his skin color, an utterly ignored white guy who despite having Foot-In-Mouth syndrome is probably doing all of the work

Not that European politics are any better

>>2804954
If you speak about my God, then you run the risk of having me come in and defend Him.

I will not suffer you to mock my God and then complain and whine when I show up and fight your arguments.

Stop whining.

I'm christian and I agree with him.

The solution to our government problems

>>2804945
>THEN AN AMERICAN COMPANY NAMED VAULT-TEC STARTS BUILDING DOZENS OF ANTI-RADIATION VAULTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY...

No, idiot. Why would China even want Alaska? It has natural resources, yes, but it also has tons of hicks who would kill for the chance to shoot at some slanty-eyes. You would never get rid of them, and I wouldn't put it past the U.S. government to kick them a little box of armaments they conveniently "misplaced" just to keep China busy.

>>2804968

please leave. I really like this board and I don't want moot to delete it like he deleted your board.

please go away. I really like this board. I don't want you to turn it into new.

Also, my god can kick your god's ass and jesus is as real as santa claus. Deal with it because it is the truth.

>>2804968

>>2804945
dude, you are on to something, but i think it will go more like this

palin get elected, and SHE sells alaska to the chinese, because the only way americans could accept that they had to do it is if some "true patriot" homegrown alaskanite like palin told them they had to.

>>2804976
I don't believe you are a Christian, because you're not providing any reasoning for why you support him.

You're just claiming to be a Christian.

I say this with all due respect.

>>2804981

Alaska has fuck tons of oil, dipshit.

>>2804945

Would this be a thermonuclear war, a conventional war consisting of a lot of large pitched, set-piece battles or would it consist of tiny skirmishes between small units of special forces? I think the third is the most likely.

>>2804990
>>2804945
>America selling a big old pocket of resources to China because of a debt nobody realistically pays any attention to

I wouldn't be shocked if, in fifty years, we don't even use currency anymore. Just tons of credits and loans that keep us shackled to a particular place until we die. It's more effective than paper and coins.

OP must not realize that our forefathers were men who read and carried The Bible.

>Fuck this country.
Then get out. It's that simple, are you that fucking stupid? If you don't like it, you can fucking leave and join the Muslims. They'll kill you for being atheist, though. Suddenly Christianity ain't so bad, huh?

>>2804993

hey man, you realize that god created Christianity as a test to see who was worthy of heaven, right?

If you believe in it, you fail for a multitude of reasons. If you shove it down others' throats, you burn in hell for forever. Just thought I'd give you the heads up on that one.

>>2804981
>tons of hicks

yeah like less than 1% of the number of han chinks that would be there the day after they bought it.

>>2804986
Moot deleted /new/ because it turned into stormfront. I was never mentioned as part of the problem.

If I am told by someone in authority that I cannot post on this board, then I will leave.

But until the mods ban me from this board, I will continue to respond to all threads that attack my God.

Jesus Christ is the son of the Living God, and He paid the penalty for all your rebellion against a perfect holy God. Deal with it because it is the truth.

>>2804997
It has natural resources, yes, but it also has tons of hicks who would kill for the chance to shoot at some slanty-eyes. You would never get rid of them, and I wouldn't put it past the U.S. government to kick them a little box of armaments they conveniently "misplaced" just to keep China busy.

>but it also has tons of hicks who would kill for the chance to shoot at some slanty-eyes. You would never get rid of them, and I wouldn't put it past the U.S. government to kick them a little box of armaments they conveniently "misplaced" just to keep China busy.

>BUT IT ALSO HAS TONS OF HICKS

>WHO YOU WOULD NEVER GET RID OF

>>2805023
>Deal with it

If not for this, I might've thought that you were being serious in your tirade.

>>2805017
>No Biblical proof
Opinion discarded.

"Test everything." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

>>2804968
8/10
convincing troll

>>2804844
>Christians caused the Dark Ages.

Are you refering to the Crusades? I hope not, because you probably have no idea what caused the Roman Catholic Church to begin the campaign.

>>2805001

not nuclear, but we will both destroy the shit out of alaska with our tanks and artillery and planes.

nobody cares about that place anyways so it's a great place to blow stuff up and have a war.

>>2805015

or you can start working to get palin elected. fuck you and your gtfo redneckery.

PALIN 2012
the quick death america deserves

>>2805023
What proof do you have of god?
If Bible, what proof is there of the Bible being correct?

>>2805030
If 3 words are enough to destroy your faith in me, then how many words did it take to destroy your faith in God?

5?

500?

You never had any faith in me.

>>2805021
>"WE FINARRY GET ARASKA FROM THOSE FIRTHY AMERICA PIGDOGS, TIME TO GET NATURAL RESOURCE AND MAKE MIRITARY BUNKER"

>"OKAY TEAM A, YOU GO TO THIS PRACE AND MAKE BIG OIR TOWER FOR DERICIOUS OIR"

>"OKAY TEAM B, YOU GO TO- WAIT WHAT DO YOU MEAN TERRORIST BOMBED OIR TOWER IN PROGRESS, GODDAMNIT OKAY SEND IN TROOPERS"

>"SO ANYWAY TEAM B YOU START WORK ON BUNKER HE- OH WHAT DO YOU MEAN EVERYBODY WHO ENTERS THAT PRACE ENDS UP GETTING GUERIRRA ATTACKED"

>"SHIT EVERY TIME WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING WE GET GODDAMN AMERICANS BREAKING DOWN OUR SHIT, FUCK THIS IT WASNT WORTH IT AT AAAAAAAAAAAAALL"

>>2805031
'You must not test the LORD your God.'
Luke 4:12

>>2805031

>No Biblical proof

here's your problem. God's test involves you being able to think for yourself instead of blindly following a book written thousands of years ago by the greatest trolls known to humanity.

If you believe in the bible, you fail god's test.
I hate to say it man, but you're failing while you think you are winning. God's trolling you hard bro.

God worked hard to put in some obvious clues that christianity is a trap, but you're blind to them and it's hilarious to watch this.

>>2805035
dark ages started before crusades, silly goose

>>2805036

Wow, /sci/ is just as retarded as the rest of 4chan.

We didn't buy Alaska because we wanted to watch the ocean, that place as so much in terms of natural resources we could live off it for a few decades.

>>2804844
>christfags caused the dark ages
The Dark Ages were caused by people not being allowed to read the Bible.

Back in those days, you could be burned at the stake for owning a Bible, or for preaching the Gospel to the commoners without the "guidance" of the Catholic Church.

When you remove the Word of God from society, things become dark.

Hence, the Dark Ages.

>>2805052
>>2805031
>Biblical inconsistencies

>>2805031

one of god's commands is to not whoreship idols.

worship the idol of jesus on the cross like it's ok.

>>2805071

Confirmed for angsty teen atheistfag.

>>2805062

>The Dark Ages were caused by people not being allowed to read the Bible.

FULL RETARD DETECTED

I bet this guy was homeschooled.

you fail god's test by believing in Christianity. there is still time to be saved. this is the secret, known to few, sought by all.

>>2805056
Are you sure? The Crusades were 300 years before the "Dark Ages," according to literary dates.

The Muslim faith is much more believable than the Christian one. Their holy book has far fewer inconsistencies.

>>2805054
>blindly following a book
"We never stop thanking God that when you received His message from us, you didn't think of our words as MERE HUMAN IDEAS. Instead, you accepted what we said as the very WORD OF GOD - WHICH OF COURSE, IT IS. And this word continues to work in you who believe." (1 Thessalonians 2:13)

Furthermore, my faith is not blind. It has been validated and proven by the spiritual proofs God Himself has given me.

God is a spiritual being, and you fools spend all your time demanding physical evidence for His existence.

You may as well be trying to smell colors or taste music.

God is not discerned without the Spirit, and in order to have the Spirit, you must SEEK GOD.

"SEEK THE LORD WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND." (Isaiah 55:6)

>>2805015
Sup'

But yea i agree with you christianity is important. It's our culture. It's a noble lie, we should make sure that the right people, intellectual people, are protecting this lie and not letting it get out of hand.

>>2805089
And your ad hominems mean...?

>>2805095
>Their holy book has far fewer inconsistencies.
The Qur'an was compiled by one individual, Zaid bin Thabit, under the guidance of Mohammed's father-in-law, Abu-Bekr.

Then in A.D. 650, a group of Arab scholars produced a unified version and DESTROYED ALL VARIANT COPIES in order to preserve the unity of the Qur'an.

The Bible was unified from the time of its writing. The Qur'an had to be unified through the editing of men.

>>2805094

facepalm.jpg

Dark Ages were from 476 AD to roughly 1000 AD. The first crusade was in 1095 and the last in 1389.

>>2805094
lolwut, I think you're confusing "Dark Ages" and "Renaissance" for whatever reason...

Shot in the dark here... you don't have any of those "literary dates" in front of you do you?

>>2805095
There are no inconsistancies when you read The Bible in Hebrew. Did you know the word that we read as "created" in English also means "restored" in Hebrew?

Perhaps it is simply... God restored the heavens and the earth...

Then what? Oh, your science... it can't disprove that... oh no.

>>2805097
hey AMDG, normally I like what you say and all since Im a christian as well, but your analogy fails here because a synesthetic person can indeed smell music and taste colors and all that

just saying

>>2805097

YOU ARE FAILING GOD'S TEST BY BELIEVING IN THE IDOLATRY OF CHRISTIANITY.

GOD IS GIVING YOU A MESSAGE RIGHT NOW AND YOU ARE BLIND TO IT.

I HOPE YOU ENJOY HELL.

>>2805103
>implying that's significantly different from the history of the Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant bibles

>>2805071
Thanks for proving the Bible right.

"There is no one who understands." (Romans 3:11)

>>2805107
don't have to disprove mythology
burden of proof lies on those with no proof

>>2805117
The Bible was written by over 40 different authors, over the course of 1,600 years, on 3 different continents.

And yet the main themes of Scripture are all maintained!

Take 3 people from your family or school and ask their opinions on stuff. GUARANTEE YOU they won't agree.

Yet 40 guys from over 1,600 years apart on 3 different continents all agreed on everything (save for the Mosaic covenant, but that's understandable since it was only temporary).

>>2805105
>>2805104
You two are right, read the wrong set of dates when I went to look them up.

>>2805120

If your god is all powerful and mighty, why does he need defending? Can't he defend himself?

Better yet, why doesn't everybody believe in him if he is real? (Protip: he either isn't real, isn't all powerful, or christianity is full of shit)

>>2805120
Including you?

>>2805117
The Bible was written by over 40 different authors, over the course of 1,600 years, on 3 different continents.

And yet the main themes of Scripture are all maintained!

Take 3 people from your family or school and ask their opinions on stuff. GUARANTEE YOU they won't agree.

Yet 40 guys from over 1,600 years apart on 3 different continents all agreed on everything (save for things like the Mosaic covenant, but that's understandable since it was only a temporary agreement).

>>2805127
Thing is, science can't create intelligence, or even basic life. Science can't even explain where matter comes from. Matter is technically an assumption of space-time without discovering the Higgs-Boson.

>>2805134

your ignorance is painful.

>>2805134
You're one of those people who thinks Moses wrote part of the bible aren't you?

>>2805135

>Better yet, why doesn't everybody believe in him if he is real?

Everyone rebels against God at some point in their life, and some rebel so strongly that they outright deny his existence.

All Christians in this thread have not objectively compared their beliefs with more than one major world religion.

>>2805135
>Can't he defend himself?
He can, but He is glorified when a sinful human being such as myself is transformed into a vessel for His glory and given a desire for His will, which includes having the ability to defend Him myself.

Though I must admit that any knowledge I have is explicitly from the Lord. I never took any fancy class on theology. God was my professor, and He taught me everything I know about Him through His word.

>>2805139

Yeah, it's almost like a bunch of people sat down at some big meeting at some point and decided what was in and what was out in the interests of consistency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Nicaea

I am a Atheist that was dragged into a bible study and they told me that shouting "YOUR GOD ISN"T BIG ENOUGH" isn't heresy after all.

I was confused. I was so sure that bringing to their attention the lack of positive contributions caused to this planet from Christianity would just upset them.

125x^2-200xy+80y^2

Also, winners don't do drugs.

>>2805154
>He thinks there are any actual Christians in this thread.

>>2805139
what have you been smoking? The "theme" is all over the fucking place.
God kills teenagers for calling his prophet bald.
Oh now he's an all-forgiving god.
Wait, unless you blaspheme the holy spirit.

So, gentlemen of various calibers, what is your basis for believing in God or your own God, considering we're speaking of possibly various religions here?

>>2805154

Which religions do you refer to specifically?

>>2805147

MAYBE THERE IS GOD.

IF THERE IS GOD, I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT CHRISTIANITY IS THE ONLY RIGHT WAY TO BELIEVE IN HIM.

ANY RELIGION THAT TELLS YOU ALL THE OTHERS ARE WRONG IS A SCAM.

A SCAM!!!!

>>2805154
Why should I?

GOD PROVED HIMSELF TO ME.
GOD REVEALED HIMSELF TO ME.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WAS BORN INTO.
THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING I WAS RAISED IN.

THE CHRISTIAN YOU SEE BEFORE YOU WAS NOT LIKE THIS ALL HIS LIFE.

THIS HAPPENED AFTER GOD REVEALED HIMSELF TO ME, AND HE IS WAITING TO DO THE SAME FOR YOU IF YOU WILL ONLY

S
E
E
K

H
I
M.

But of course, most of you won't.

"No one seeks God." (Romans 3:11)

And that's why I don't feel bad about the Judgment of God. You deserve Hell for refusing to seek Him.

You deserve Hell for loving your sins too much to listen to me.

YOU DESERVE IT.

GROW UP. BE MEN. STOP BEING CHILDREN.

SEEK THE LORD LIKE MEN.

I can't believe that you guys are taking this seriously

>>2805158
How do you explain the Torah being unchanged after a millenia?

Personally, I would be astonished if the New Testiment is perfectly legit, but you can't bash on the Jewish texts. They haven't changed since they were written, the first time. Do you know what scribes went through to copy those books?

i hope moot closes down this shitty board

>>2805174
>"No one seeks God." (Romans 3:11)
Except you, rite

>>2805176
If you actually knew shit about your religion, you would know that the modern Jew actually follows the Talmud, not the Torah... dumbass... it's all man-made shit. That is why I am a deist today, Keep G-d... toss the social control.

>>2805176
uhh..
I think you're forgetting all of the major archaeological finds in Palestine in the past 200 years

also, none of the Jewish holy text was written down until the Babylonian Exile

>>2805174

JESUS CHRIST ISN'T REAL.

HE NEVER LIVED AT ALL.

THEY MADE HIS STORY UP.

GODDAMN YOU ARE STUPID.

moot needs to introduce a script that auto 404's any thread with the words "god" or "religion" from more than one ip

>>2805176
At least you have faith in half of the Bible. That's better than most of the people here.

So in that case, let me use something from the prophet Isaiah:

"The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God endures forever." (Isaiah 40:8)

God is powerful enough to protect His word from meddling men. The New Testament is accurate, and I can proudly say that the Lord God reigns and Jesus Christ is His only begotten son.

Come to Jesus now while you still have time! Stop stalling. Stop making up excuses.

All of you are the kings of excuses. You have an excuse for everything.

I tell you to seek God, and you say "Well what about x?"

FORGET ABOUT x. FORGET ABOUT x.

x IS MEANINGLESS. MY GOD IS REAL AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO LIVE IN IGNORANCE AND SIN YOU WILL DIE.

STOP STALLING.

Browsing 4chan by default would mail you a one-way ticket to hell, so I don't see what all the fuss is about here.

>>2805190

>also, none of the Jewish holy text was written down until the Babylonian Exile

Correct; it was not. You'll notice that they experienced a total transformation during the exile from the tribal idol worshipers of the OT into what was the first modern religion.

>>2805174

Riddle me this, how do you know that christianity is the only way to believe in god?

Inb4: god says so, the bible, or jesus.
personal experiences do not prove anything.

>>2805209
Because my parents said so, and they are Christians.

>>2805188
I guess we can get real with it, now, and declare that the full text is called the Tanakh. Derp knitpicking herp.

>>2805209
>Prove God to me.
>Don't use Spiritual evidence.
Pick one.

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit." (1 Corinthians 2:14)

>>2805204

A quote of Jesus from the book of Matthew, 10:34

"Do not think I have come to earth to bring peace, I come not to bring peace, but WAR."

God is obviously trolling you by tricking you into believing in this crazy cult. You need to become a person and stop whoreshipping some imaginary people that the man in the funny hat tells you to.

You are a slave to the pope.

>>2805015
>Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have
not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

>"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."

[Benjamin Franklin]

>"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity." -John Adams

>"Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by the difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be depreciated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society."
- George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, 1792

>>2805177
srsly, we have a fucking resident champion of christianity tripfag.

When /sci/ is good, it's really good. 9 times out of 10, this stupid shit and it's back to /r/science or some other shittier place. wat do?

>>2805220
Then how does one discern things in a "spiritual manner?" How is your method different from those of potentially other religions?

>>2805220

I know that there is a god. That's not my point. My point is, prove that god is a christian and not a hindu.

again, you cannot use the bible as proof.

>>2805205
You guys think you're so hardcore here on 4chan. You think your sins are so bad and so huge and so hardcore.

lol

The Romans would train animals (ie: baboons) to rape people (many times children), and they would do this for their entertainment.

Have you ever done that?

Then don't act all hardcore like "oh man I'm so sinful God could never forgive me lol."

Your sins are nothing compared to the healing forgiveness of Jesus Christ, and you'd do well to remember that.

>>2805209
because way back when a king decided that monotheism was the way to go?

because people were exiled for believing in the wrong invisible man?

crusades?

genocide?

pestilence?

>>2805209

It's the religion atheists spend 90% of their time attacking, so there must be some truth to it.

Note that there's no websites devoted to disbelief in Zeus or Thor or Quetzalcoatl or Allah or Shiva, but there's 1,339,593 sites devoted to disbelief in the Christian god.

>>2805220
It's a very cleverly designed thought control tool, formulated over many years. Sad thing is it perpetuates itself in that many of the professors of the religion truly believe the nonsense they spout.

Science is fucking your superstitious mythologies in the ass little by little every day

>>2805190
The surviving remnants of the oldest texts are still identical. Scientifically, that's a fact. The rest, we do not know. Are you mad, brah? There's enough historical proof and the probability of the prophecies that have come true (you know, all of them) is unimaginable. My father and I talk about this a lot (he's getting old and might be a bit senile, now) and we both agree that there is plenty of evidence, thanks to SCIENCE, that we no longer need to stand on faith and faith alone. God is real, and there is evidence out there, however, too many people chalk it up to coincidence. How many fucking coincidences do you fucking need before you can consider, "Hey, maybe this shit might have something solid to it..."

>>2805244

Disregard overwhelming evidence of own stupidity.
Change the subject.

Shitty troll is shitty.

Prove that god is christian and not hindu or muslim.

>>2805237
Fuck yeah general deism!

>>2805244
I call troll. All sins are equal in the eyes of god. There is no 'hardcore'.

If not troll, you have some growing up to do, brother.

the appropriate response to these threads is sage.

>>2805235
"Those who seek Me, find Me." (Proverbs 8:17)

"You never abandon those who seek you." (Psalm 9:10)

"Seek the Lord while you still can!" (Isaiah 55:6)

"You will find me when you seek me with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength." (Deuteronomy 4:29)

Do you want to know how to seek the Lord?

>How is your method different from those of potentially other religions?
No other "god" begs you to seek him and promises to reveal himself to you if you do.

No other god cries out and screams at you to stop sinning:

"'Do you think that I like to see wicked people die??' says the Sovereign Lord. 'Of course not!! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live!! Why should you die? I don't want you to die!! Turn back and live!!" (Ezekiel 18:23, 31-32)

What other god does that?

>>2805249
it's the religion of 90% of the religious people in the western world, well it was. Europe's getting overrun

Buddhism is the true path

>>2805244
If nothing else, your romanticized imagery is appealing. :3c

>>2805269

PROVE THAT GOD IS CHRISTIAN AND NOT A HINDU.

If you cannot do this, your religion is weak and stupid.

>>2805271

>Europe's getting overrun

By Muslims. Aside from that, I'm a tolerant guy who wishes anyone well regardless of their beliefs. I only oppose the two most intolerant religions, Islamofascism and atheofascism.

>>2805265
>All sins are equal in the eyes of god. There is no 'hardcore'.
All sins have the same effect, but not all sins are equal in the eyes of God.

Proverbs 6 tells us there are 6 things the Lord hates, 7 that are detestable to Him.

(Ironically, homosexuality doesn't even make the list. Looks like the WBC just lost its authority lol.)

>>2805269

PROVE THAT GOD IS CHRISTIAN AND NOT A HINDU.

If you cannot do this, your religion is weak and stupid.

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>>2805230
What does any of this matter? Explain it to me, because all that they are saying that religion and law should not freely mingle for the sake of simplicity and peace. They're saying that we, the people, are at each others throats instead of allowing for religious freedom. Am I missing something? Just because we the people are jackasses doesn't mean that these individuals were atheist. They were all Masons, and if you don't understand what that refers to, then you shouldn't be here.

>>2805049
>>2805049

Damn Mongolians are eating our "Shitty Wall".

I am a Atheist that was dragged into a bible study and they told me that shouting "YOUR GOD ISN"T BIG ENOUGH" isn't heresy after all.

I was confused. I was so sure that bringing to their attention the lack of positive contributions caused to this planet as a result of Christianity would just upset them.

Also, winners don't do drugs.

>>2805249
That's because there is very, very little pervasive and honest belief in a greco-roman or Hindu god in western culture, of which most people on 4chan belong, you unbelievable retard. Politicians in the United States don't insist we plaster every public building with the words "In Jove We Trust" or "Namaste".

>>2805280

See >>2805249

>>2805277
Buddhism has no true morality. Karma is impersonal.

Karma is akin to a law of nature. Breaking a karmic "rule" is not intrinsically evil. There seems to be no significant difference between error (non-moral mistakes) and sin (moral wrongdoing).

Buddhism is dead, and so is the Buddha. Christ lives and rose from the dead.

>>2805292

hey man, you still have no proof that god is a Christian and not a hindu other than the bible and your own experiences.

what does that tell you about your religion?

killeveryoneinthisthread.jpg

That's it. /sci is finished. This board doesn't deserve to live.

Explicitly prove that god is not a hindu.

>>2805296
It's your job to find God yourself.

My job is to sow seeds and point good men towards the Lord.

My job is not to debate with blind men about the existence of light.

Light exists. I don't care if you can't see it. That's your fault, not mine.

Seek the Lord so that you may wake up.

"Perhaps they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will." (2 Timothy 2:26)

>>2805300
Except in the US, there's a very real danger of theocracy. In fact, I go so far as to say that the USA already has many traits of a theocracy.

The very fact that Christfags actively oppress people who want equal rights doesn't help. Nothing shows Christians for the bigots they are as much as gay unions.

All of you need to go to bed.

This is pointless.

>>2805307

christ is as real as santa claus.

google "proof that jesus existed"

>>2805316
What is it that science always says.. Science won't try to disprove God, so why should Christianity try to disprove your bogus theory? You need to prove he is Hindu.

I like this idiot logic you guys use, btw.

>>2805288
Hey I'm tolerant of people having their own personal beliefs, but when they start trying to hinder scientific progress with their pictures of Jesus riding a T-Rex that's when I roll my eyes and tell them to leave the science to people who are psychologically adults.

(Note the use of hyperbole)

>>2805321
You might be right, but, at least we're not Muslims. We'd be cutting heads off left and right, just because you won't praise our gods!

Would you rather that be the nation you live in?

Hey. Fuck off.

>>2805318

>It's your job to find God yourself.

Oh I see how your arguement works. Let me look at this handy chart I have here.

Looks like you used Ad hominem here chief.

Prove that God isn't a hindu or else you are whoreshipping a false god.

>>2805316

I know of a website called www.jesusneverexisted.com, but I don't know of a site called www.shivaneverexisted.com

>>2805323
~~~PART 1/2~~~
The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious “Christians” (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Suetonius, chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian, wrote that there was a man named Chrestus (or Christ) who lived during the first century (Annals 15.44).

Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.” There is a controversial verse (18:3) that says, “Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats....He was [the] Christ...he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.” One version reads, “At this time there was a wise man named Jesus. His conduct was good and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who became his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive; accordingly he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders.”

Julius Africanus quotes the historian Thallus in a discussion of the darkness which followed the crucifixion of Christ (Extant Writings, 18).

Pliny the Younger, in Letters 10:96, recorded early Christian worship practices including the fact that Christians worshiped Jesus as God and were very ethical, and he includes a reference to the love feast and Lord’s Supper.

>>2805326
If one side can do it, why can't the other. It's retarded both ways, and you're all a bunch of faggots.

>>2805318
When you die you will experience a moment of intense hallucination brought on by a surge of DMT and neural activity in you occipital lobe.
Then everything will go black. You will cease to feel and your consciousness will end. You are terrified of this notion, but you will never truly escape it.

>>2805335
It's your job to prove he's Hindu, bro XD. Get this right. You're looking like a 'tard.

this board is cancer

>>2805341
~~~PART 2/2~~~
The Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 43a) confirms Jesus' crucifixion on the eve of Passover and the accusations against Christ of practicing sorcery and encouraging Jewish apostasy.

Lucian of Samosata was a second-century Greek writer who admits that Jesus was worshiped by Christians, introduced new teachings, and was crucified for them. He said that Jesus' teachings included the brotherhood of believers, the importance of conversion, and the importance of denying other gods. Christians lived according to Jesus’ laws, believed themselves to be immortal, and were characterized by contempt for death, voluntary self-devotion, and renunciation of material goods.

Mara Bar-Serapion confirms that Jesus was thought to be a wise and virtuous man, was considered by many to be the king of Israel, was put to death by the Jews, and lived on in the teachings of His followers.

Then we have all the Gnostic writings (The Gospel of Truth, The Apocryphon of John, The Gospel of Thomas, The Treatise on Resurrection, etc.) that all mention Jesus.

In fact, we can almost reconstruct the gospel just from early non-Christian sources!

Jesus was called the Christ (Josephus), did “magic,” led Israel into new teachings, and was hanged on Passover for them (Babylonian Talmud) in Judea (Tacitus), but claimed to be God and would return (Eliezar), which his followers believed, worshipping Him as God (Pliny the Younger).

Your move bro.

>>2805332
You would if you could.
The advent of western values had nothing to do with Christianity. Religion changes at the whims of humanistic values. And scientific discoveries for that matter.

cancer i say

>>2805332
At least you aren't part of a group that burned people at the stake because of unsubstantiated claims of practicing "witchcraft"
..oh wait

>>2805343
No no, this is YOUR logic. Don't run just because you got cornered. How does it feel to get your own asinine questions for once?

This is YOUR idiot logic, bro. Anonymous logic. Idiot braindead troll logic. It's YOUR job.

lol, what a scumbag.

>>2805344

And then you spend eternity smoking a cigarette while propped up against a lamppost while looking cool. At least, that's what I get the impression atheists think happens when you die.

Could 4chan post videos on ytmnd for a change? It's a youtube for morons who don't know how to post video.

I say this because I am sick of these 3 hour conspiracy theory videos that suggest that we become anarchists and destroy America. I know this place has problems, but I don't hate it enough to go nuts and suicide bomb random shit. Think of the children!

>>2805346
>he doesn't understand how burden of proof works

>>2805349
Oh so the gospels weren't quite precise?

OH SURPRISE SURPRISE MOAR CANCER

>>2805363
I don't, huh? Explain it, big shot XD

I'm willing to bet you have no clue, or you would have done so in prep XD

>>2805349
>>2805341

you know what man, you can keep believing in your stupid religion if it makes you feel better, there's no way I'm going to save you from eternal damnation if you want to keep believing the lies which were shoved down your throat from an early age.

To think, you were graced with the ability to speak with one of god's own messengers and you failed to heed what he said.

He will never speak to you so explicitly ever again.

the cancer is palpable

WHO AMONG YOU IS WILLING TO SEEK THE LORD?

WHO AMONG YOU IS A MAN?

WHO AMONG YOU IS NOT ENSLAVED?

SEEK THE LORD, YOU MEN. SEEK THE LORD AND STOP LICKING THE BOOT OF SIN.

CLAIM YOUR FREEDOM IN CHRIST! STOP LIVING LIKE A CAGED ANIMAL!

In order to seek the Lord, you must do your best to remove the sin from your life. You must also read the Bible and pray to God (though you lack faith). Pray to God and ask Him to honor your commitment by revealing Himself to you.

If you lost your keys, would you just sit back and cling to theories that claim your keys never existed?

No! That'd be stupid!

THEN WHY DO YOU DO THAT WITH GOD? HE IS REAL AND IF YOU SEEK HIM YOU WILL FIND HIM!

"THOSE WHO SEEK ME FIND ME." (Proverbs 8:17)

>>2805362

Yeah, actually, that's what led me to 4chan /sci. I was tired of talking to retarded fools.

/sci does have its fair share, but nothing even remotely comparable to Youtube

>>2805363

Exactly. Atheists make a positive assertion that there's no god or heaven and that you spend eternity smoking a cigarette next to a lamppost. Where's your proof?

>>2805372

we need to all report this faggot so that he can be b& from this board forever

Some people know how to logic, some don't.

/thread

>>2805372

Lies.

I sought him for 14 years and ended up finding out the truth.

Santa Claus just isn't real my friend.

>>2805380
how do we get moot to delete this board?

We need a religioncancer board all for itself.

>>2805368
you have a lot of these "XD" for someone that dodges questions over and over.

Where have I seen this behavior?

I fucking love this pyramid. So many ppl are on the lower half of this bitch. How does it feel to be average, guys? Unable to realistically propose an arguement?

/sci/? No, there's no science in here. No testing, no studies, no one is using any logic.

Board is a failure. Maybe I agree with the flamer running around screaming "this board is cancer!" because of the lack of intelligence here. It's the fucking SCIENCE BOARD faggots, get some form of an education before you come in here, this is pathetic XD

>>2805384
Go ahead. My time with all of you is waning anyway.

If I am banned then I will shake the dust from my feet, and your blood will be on your own heads.

But I beg you to seek God. Please! For your own sakes! Seek the Lord!

>>2805368
He who makes the claim must provide evidence for that claim. You claim the christian god is correct. Prove it. Out of all religions in the world, prove that yours is correct.

I don't have to prove that god is a Hindu or Buddhist, because I don't believe in either theory, because I have no evidence.

>>2805392
Ok, what am I dodging, I thought I was doing a pretty good job of smashing you 'tards, but I'll answer your question, specifically, even though you won't accept a logical or even scientific answer.

Shoot.

>>2805397

/sci/

I know we don't agree on a lot of things, but please, lets get everybody to report this faggot for rule violations so that we can have a better board that isn't filled with religious fanatics who love sucking jesus's dick.

>>2805393
stfu tripfag you are cancer

atheism vs. religion threads are not /sci/ related

thus cancer. go back to /b/

Christianity is a religion of slavery.

"Blessed are the strong, for they shall possess the Earth.
Cursed are the weak, for they shall inherit the yoke.
Blessed are the powerful for they shall be reverenced among men - Cursed are the feeble for they shall be blotted out.

Blessed are the bold for they shall be masters of the world - Cursed are the humble, for they shall be trodden under hoofs. Blessed are the victorious, for victory is the basis of right - Cursed are the vanquished for they shall be vassals forever.

Blessed are the battle-blooded, beauty shall smile upon them - Cursed are the poor in spirit, they shall be spat upon. Blessed are the audacious, for they have imbibed true wisdom - Cursed are the obedient, for they shall breed creeplings.

Blessed are the iron-handed, the unfit shall flee before them - Cursed are the haters of battle, subjugation is their portion. Blessed are the death-defiant, their days shall be long in the land - Cursed are the feeble-brained, for they shall perish amidst plenty.

Blessed are the destroyers of false hope, they are the true Messiahs - Cursed are the God-adorers, they shall be shorn sheep. Blessed are the valiant for they shall obtain great treasure - Cursed are the believers in good and evil for they are frightened by shadows.

>>2805400
>Prove it.
Fine.

Here is an empirical experiment that you can do:
Step 1: Do your best to remove the sin from your life.

Step 2: Read the Bible daily.

Step 3: Pray to God (even though your faith is small) and ask Him to honor your commitment by revealing Himself to you. Speak to Him like you would to your own father. Not with high words or prose, but from the overflow of your heart!

OH MY BROTHERS, HOW I WISH YOU WOULD SEEK THE LORD! STOP LIVING IN SIN!

I MOURN FOR YOU! MY SOUL GRIEVES FOR YOU! PLEASE DON'T DIE! I DON'T WANT YOU TO DIE!

have you heard? The bird is the word!

I forgot how the rest of the sequence goes. Could someone fill in the blanks for me? Thanks.

>>2805400

Already explained in >>2805249 and >>2805339

>>2805420
Blessed are they who believe in nothing, never shall it terrorize their minds - Cursed are the "lambs of God," for they shall be bled whiter than snow. Blessed is the man who hath powerful enemies, they shall make him a hero - Cursed is he who "doeth good" unto others, he shall be despised.

Blessed is the man whose foot is swift to serve a friend, he is a friend indeed - Cursed are the organizers of Charities, they are propagators of plagues. Blessed are the wise and brave for in the struggle they shall win - Cursed are the unfit, for they shall be righteously exterminated.

Blessed are the sires of noble maidens, they are the salt of the earth - Cursed the mothers of strumous tenderlings, for they shall be ashamed. Blessed are the mighty-minded, for they shall ride the whirl-winds - Cursed are they who teach lies for truth, and truth for lies, for they are - abomination.

Blessed are the unmerciful, their posterity shall own the world - Cursed are the famous wiselings, their seed shall perish off the earth. Thrice cursed are the vile, for they shall serve and suffer."

>>2805384
DONE.

True /sci/ducks, plz follow suit. If it's not too much to ask, we'd like to talk about Science & Math over here at 4chan Science & Math. I know you religious folk aren't the brightest, but do your best.

I say that god is a muslim.
My proof is the quran.

You say that god is a christian
Your proof is the bible.

either one of us is wrong, or both of us are wrong.
we both use a book written hundreds of years ago by crazy sand niggers. The answer is clearly, both choices are incorrect.

/thread

>>2805400
There are no failacies in the Hebrew text. Whichever God was in that text is the only perfect being and perfect text. As stated before, the Christian text has been altered too many times to be sure of it's origins or its true context, but those happenings do not effect the Hebrew text. Now, go learn Hebrew and try to prove me wrong. I'm not going to babysit you while you do that.

>>2805397

I'm telling you that I was a Christian for 14 years. There is no God.

If your God is so great, test him. Is he untestable and unquestionable? Then why do we give a damn about him if he's so intangible?

If you were born in the middle east you wouldn't even have read the Bible.

What kind of god misses over 4 billion people when trying to get his message across? I'll tell you the answer -- a fictitious god.

Why do you hate them? The way they've been doing things have worked for decades. What makes you think your way is any better?

>>2805412
Hmm.. prayers must have mass and are therefore bound by gravity to follow the curvature of the earth because of COURSE they reach Allah who only listens to prayers that reach Mecca.

fucking cancer

>>2804820
I'm a Christian but that was lulzworthy. That could really put a nail in the coffin of any presidential aspirations he might have.

>>2805388
>I sought him for 14 years
You weren't doing something right. God is not going to leave you in that state for 14 years unless you're clinging to some form of sin.

"If I cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened." (Psalm 66:18)

>>2805429
Yeah fucking right.
I suppose you think Hebrew is some magical language and the meanings of the words are always so ambiguous that they couldn't contradict other passages.

You don't even know Hebrew do you?

The language was dead for over 1000 years, do you really think all of the idioms were preserved?

>>2805421

Remember also Matthew 7:6

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces."

Loosely translated, it means that human vermin (aka atheistfags in this thread) will insult and trash you for preaching God's word.

>>2805445

>You weren't doing something right.

Who are you to judge someone. Who are you to say that someone isn't doing something right.

You are the one who is failing god's test by believing in fiction as if it were the word of god.

>>2805381

If that is what you define Atheism as, then I am not an Atheist.

I see no evidence for God. I think that science explains our existence sufficiently, and we have no need of a divine creator. Therefore, I don't think he exists.

I could be wrong, but, until I see evidence to the contrary, I will hold my conviction.

I sought Allah with all my heart, and I found him. He showed to me that he is the truth and that Christianity and all other religions are false. If you want to know, read the Qur'an every day and pray diligently.

AMDG's god is a false god, and if you do as I say you will know it for yourselves.

>>2805459
I'm simply quoting the Bible.

Shut up and grow up. Stop whining like a child. I'm not judging anybody, I'm warning him and correcting him.

Do you see me telling him that "he is doomed to hell forever and there's nothing he can do about it because he's such a filthy horrible person and I hope he burns in hell forever."?

Then shut up and grow up. Stop throwing the word "judging" around like a frisbee.

In John 7:24, Jesus tells us to "stop judging by appearances and make a righteous judgment."

But what does that mean? The answer is revealed in John 5:30.

"I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me." (John 5:30)

We as Christians are commanded to make righteous judgments, not to please ourselves, not to hurt our enemies, etc...but only to glorify and please the Father.

If we judge others in this context, with confidence (yet still maintaining gentleness and peace) then we have not sinned.

>>2805461
I wish moot would get mods.

Well, except for the fact that 4chan is run by the FBI now.

>>2805461

Then you're really an agnostic.

>>2805463
Seconded.

PLEASE. I GRIEVE FOR YOU AMDG. AT LEAST READ THE QU'RAN. OPEN YOUR HEART AND TALK TO ALLAH. BECOME A MAN. I DON'T WANT YOU TO DIE!!

>>2805457

herp derp.

If I was going to make a religion, I would tell all my followers that people would try to question them, but that they should remain steadfast so that my religion would grow and THE CHURCH WOULD MAKE TONS OF MONEY..

DONT YOU SEE? YOU ARE BEING EXPLOITED BY THE CHURCH.

How many starbucks are there in your town? How many churches? Notice a trend? they are using you for money and power and you are blind to see that.

>>2805416
Are you mad that I use a name? Which one of you idiots invented these rules, anyway? What's the point to them? Perhaps you don't understand the "rules of the internet," and how the policies actually effect the content that we pass along.

Btw, to say that there is no science in religion is ignorant and foolish. One obviously contains the other. When will you faggots learn that you cannot seperate the two? There must be a religion (or hell, there could be more than 1 religion) that is right, even if that religion is atheism (yes, morons, atheism follows a set of beliefs and is henceforth a religion).

Deal with it.

>>2805445

I was naive. I tried my best to cling onto the religion that I was given, but I could not accept such an immoral god. No one deserves the agony that some people on Earth suffer and no one deserves an eternity in fire.

I turned to the Bible in a last attempt to salvage my relationship with God. For the first time, I read the book from start to finish.

I then realized that the book that the religion was based off of wasn't special. In fact, I was disgusted and immediately knew that only men could have written it.

This is your god from your Bible:

"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again." (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

>>2805445
Someday you'll die and your consciousness will end.
You will never escape this. No matter how warm and fuzzy you are tricked into feeling in the moments before your nervous system shuts down permanently, you will never feel anything again after that moment. No book written by any Iron age goat herders will ever protect you from death. Have fun wasting your life in the hopes that there will be anything after it besides the lives of other humans.

>>2805470

> I'm warning him and correcting him.

This involves judgement. You are judging people in this thread.

You are doing everything god told you not to do. I hope you're happy.

>>2805421
My faith isn't "small". It's non-existent.

The process of removing sin would suppose that I believe in "sin" in the first place.

Circular.

>>2805482

>No matter how warm and fuzzy you are tricked into feeling in the moments before your nervous system shuts down permanently, you will never feel anything again after that moment

Cite?

>>2805457
actually it was talking about people who aren't ethnic Judaeans

>>2805494

DMT. Released in your brain before you die. Everybody knows this and you can google it if you don't believe me.

>>2805455
Yes.
Some. I am teaching myself a bit here and there.
No.

It's quite sad that so many of you are so closed minded. One of us has to be wrong and no one is open to that possibility.

>>2805472

Yup. Didn't anons do something to piss them off or something?

>>2805475

I'm an Agnostic Atheist.

A Gnostic Atheist would believe that their is no god.
There is a subtle difference.

christians got fucking demolished ITT.

>>2805502

Not that. You were making a pretty bold assertion without evidence that there's no afterlife and consciousness ends on death.

Unless you've died and come back to tell us, the most anyone can claim is that they don't know what happens when you die.

>>2805503

Yeah. Thing is, we think you're wrong.

"Open-mindedness" is a joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI\

Sums up my views quite nicely.

>>2805503

the funny thing is, christians are very clearly the wrong ones here but their religion is so well written and embedded in their minds that they are blind to it.

I know this because I used to be a Christian.

>>2805508

Were they really demolished, or are atheists just imagining that they were demolished?

>>2805494

Science supports no other conclusion, pick up a book and read it.

Psychology is a pseudoscience.

>>2805513

you actually get reincarnated when you die. but that's a story for another thread...

>>2805503
All books of the Bible are full of shit. The Gospels were written at minimum 50 years after Jesus' hypothetical death. At least 2 of them were written using another one as cliff's notes.

Did you know that Christianity began as an offshoot of Judaism? More to the point, it was an apocalypse cult that predicted the end was nigh.

Not only that, but there is no evidence that half of the events described in the OT are historical. In fact, there's evidence that the OT was produced as a way to inspire pride in the tribes of Israel.

There could be a God, but the insistence that it's what anyone on Earth thinks it is is absurd and retarded.

gtfo, go back to stormfront.

>>2805525

anybody with a brain can see that the christians were ROFLstomped

>>2805526

I have heard plenty of stories of near death experiences. Whether they're real or a hallucination is unprovable.

>>2805525
I don't see that Latin guy posting anymore. Maybe he got fed up. Good. He was wasting his time anyway. Or trolling. Or both.

Oh America, don't worry.
You can always annex the Mexican territory to your country. They have lots of oil and natural resources.

If only your people could stop treating your neighbors better and forget your differences for the common good; You still have a lot to learn.

pic related; Nort

Fun fact:
The walls of Jericho fell hundreds of years before Biblical chronology would lead you to believe a band of Jews marched around it playing trumpets.

>>2805537
>Ian McKellen
>Gay

Well, X-Men is ruined for me now too. Magneto WAS one of my favourite villains.

Satanist here. ITT: Christfags trolling other Christfags posing as atheists

>>2805529

You're in the wrong thread, boyo.

>>2805540

that guy was a regular contributor for the board known as new.

we all know what happened to that board.

I hope he got banned. There's no more room on this board for closed-minded religious freaks.

>>2805553
forgot the sage, mate.

>>2805553

I've been reporting him but I don't know if it has had an impact or not... I doubt it.

Oh America, don't worry.
You can always annex the Mexican territory to your country. They have lots of oil and natural resources.

If only your people could stop treating your neighbors better and forget your differences for the common good; You still have a lot to learn.

pic related; Differences.

>>2805524
>their religion is so well written and embedded in their minds that they are blind to it.
>I used to be a Christian.
If Christianity is inescapable, then how did you escape?

You never tasted my God. You may have sat in church, and you may have even said the sinner's prayer, but that doesn't make you a Christian.

1 John 2:19 says you're a liar.
Matthew 7:21 says you're a liar.

You're a liar. No man can encounter God one on one as I did and then walk away.

You were never made a doer of the will of God. You're a liar.

Unfortunately, I have to go now. I probably shouldn't have come on here so late, since I only had a small window to talk to you...but what's done is done. God's word is never preached in vain.

/sci/, if you don't seek my God, then you have no logical authority to claim He doesn't exist. Pic related.

I love you guys. I love you enough to chastise you and yell at you because I care about you and I don't want you to die! I want you to live! PLEASE COME TO JESUS!

In Christ our Lord and Savior,
AMDG

>>2805539
That's false, but you wouldn't bother using Google. You already know your answer.

>>2805524
>their religion is so well written and embedded in their minds that they are blind to it.
>I used to be a Christian.
If Christianity is inescapable, then how did you escape?

You never tasted my God. You may have sat in church, and you may have even said the sinner's prayer, but that doesn't make you a Christian.

1 John 2:19 says you're a liar.
Matthew 7:21 says you're a liar.

You're a liar. No man can encounter God one on one as I did and then walk away.

You were never made a doer of the will of God. You're a liar.

Unfortunately, I have to go now. I probably shouldn't have come on here so late, since I only had a small window to talk to you...but what's done is done. God's word is never preached in vain.

/sci/, if you don't seek my God, then you have no logical authority to claim He doesn't exist. Pic related.

I love you guys. I love you enough to chastise you and yell at you because I care about you and I don't want you to die! I want you to live! PLEASE COME TO JESUS!

In Christ our Lord and Savior,
AMDG.

>>2805534
>>2805546


watch this video from PBS. Explains the situation nicely, I'll even give you a TLDR

http://video.pbs.org/video/1051895565

TLDR - Poor people in Caanan got tired of rich people taking advantage of them and had a revolution. They wrote a book of fiction to unify themselves and this became known as Judaism.

Later on, some faggot named john the baptist realized how much money and fame he could make by forming his own cult, so he started christianity.

>>2805567
What. Hallucinations during near/post death experiences are well documented as random firing of neurons in the brain.

>>2805565
*If only your people could stop treating your neighbors badly
Typo. Sorry.

>>2805539
They're caused by DMT, that much we know for certain.
You ever smoked DMT? It's fuckin' crazy.
Same stuff that causes dreams.

>>2805546

The reason atheists think translation errors in the Bible disprove God is because they imagine that the Bible is the only evidence of his existence. They of course ignore or dismiss any scientific evidence that would prove such due to their close-minded fanaticism. Someone in this thread mentioned NDEs, which the fanatics dismiss on blind faith.

ITT: Militant atheists engage in a congratulatory circlejerk.
Also ITT: Whiny Christians believe this is another example of the grand persecution they suffer.

But, mostly ITT: Everyone is convinced the problem is that the other guy is so fucking stupid/evil.

>>2805564
>Christians who turned Atheist never were Christians in the first place
>Can only approach something scientifically if one accepts supernatural causes

>>2805564

>/sci/, if you don't seek my God, then you have no logical authority to claim He doesn't exist.

The problem is that when someone says that they DID seek him and did not find him, you say that they must have been doing something wrong, etc. You don't have any proof of that.

You are extremely conceited to think that whatever experience that you have had is an objective proof of God.

>>2805522
What is the point? Look, I'm saying that most of you guys here in this thread are close minded asshats because you're uneducated or because you simply have limited your course of study to one area. You simply don't know enough to make an educated decision - and I don't either, but I've never ended a conversation by saying, "Well, you're wrong." You keep telling me and the other namefag in here that we are wrong. How do you know? What makes you think you could possibly know? That's why I consider you closed minded; You limit yourself to thinking "He must be wrong."

G'night faggots.

>>2805564
Reported for rule violation.

FUCKING SAGE

WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE POSTING ITT?

ITS KILLING /SCI/

>>2805578
>scientific evidence
>god

This thread is getting funnier by the minute.

>>2805574

But it seems to always be the same experience in all documented cases.

http://www.near-death.com/

http://www.nderf.org/

http://iands.org/home.html

>>2805591
You are close minded because you ignore evidence.

Open minded =/= blindly believing everything.

>>2805571

>If Christianity is inescapable, then how did you escape?

I never said it was inescapable, I just said it was written very well such that retards wouldn't be able to see how they are getting scammed.

>You never tasted my God.

Believe me, I've experienced god. The god I know doesnt expect me to sit in an expensive building surrounded by people who don't want to be there and then takes my money after he allows me to eat his flesh.

The god I know doesn't allow child molesters to become priests of his word.

The god I know doesn't make up bullshit stories about "sending his only son" to die for our sins.

Jesus is the worst thing to happen to planet Earth, you know why? Jesus keeps people from taking responsibility for their actions. He's fucked the earth over so much because he's given people an excuse to do terrible things without feeling bad about them.

The ancient Israelites were different form other Canaanites only in the fact that they worshipped Yahweh, the storm god whose worship originated in the region of Yahu to the southeast of Israel.
The story of their Exodus from Egypt is nearly 100% fictitious and was thought up as a way to give themselves a feeling of national pride and to feel that something set them apart from the other Canaanites.
Also, Genesis is collection of differing creation myths passed on by oral tradition. AKA bullshit.

>>2805571
So, is tasting God literally taking a priest in the mouth or is it more metaphorical

Don't forget your sage boys.

>>2805619
>Implying I'd sage such an intellectually stimulating thread.

>>2805610
amdg was right. you were never a christian.

>>2805602

See, this means that no scientific evidence that God exists would be acceptable to atheistfags because they've already accepted on blind faith that they're right and everyone else is wrong.

>>2805604
Excessive neural activity in the occipital lobe causes the perception of a bright white sphere

>>2805591
I have a PHD in Philosophy from Clemson University. I read literature, scientific and otherwise. I'm not uneducated.

Simply speaking, I think you're wrong, and I'm right. I've already said my piece.

>>2805629

No, if there were some that would be a different story. The joke is that there just plain isn't any.

>>2805632

Then it should be random hallucinations and not the same thing every time. When you drop acid, do you always get the same trip? Of course not.

>>2805571

here's the correct version of your ice cream argument.

Since you were 2 years old, your parents have told you that vanilla ice cream is the only ice cream you can eat because it is god's ice cream. You fucking love vanilla ice cream and want everybody to love vanilla the most because it's "god's" ice cream.

I've had vanilla ice cream before and thought it was ok, but I enjoy eating other flavors because they taste better to me. Vanilla ice cream is not god's only flavor of ice cream!

are you starting to see why people hate christians?

LOL, you can never get the taste of God out of your
mouth. Does it taste like cock?

>>2805619
>>2805610

>>2805629
If there were any evidence for a divine creator, I'd believe in a fucking divine creator.

But there isn't any. Especially not for Christianity.

>>2805613

See >>2805206. That religious transformation the Jews had during the Exile was pretty incredible. Wonder if the real God revealed himself to them during that time. Just a theory of mine.

>>2805627
I was, hardcore.
I prayed that the rest of my family would accept Jesus every night for a good long while.

>>2805645
>>2805619

Samefag. Also see >>2805457

>>2805626
>intellectual stimulating
>14-year-olds trolling each other

>>2805655
Nothing solidly supporting the story of the Jews' exodus from Egypt is present in the Egyptian chronicles.

>>2805644
Here's the correct version of YOUR ice cream argument:

Since you were 0 years old (before you were even born), your parents have told you that cock ice cream is the only ice cream you can eat because it is god's ice cream. You fucking love cock ice cream and want everybody to love cock the most your a fucking fag and god hates you hurr durr your gay.

I've had cock before and thought i loved it but I enjoy eating other cocks because they taste better to me. cock is not god's only flavor of dicks i'm a fag!

That's what you said, burn in hell sinner, GO GOD!

U
S
A!

U
S
A!

>>2804820
>"he has that mentality of taking the bible and applying it to every aspect of the culture"
gave me chills

>>2805641
>implying everyone's near death experiences were exactly the same

>>2805671

It was probably a simplified retelling of a series of tribal migrations into Palestine.

>>2805672
>Average American.

>>2805678

Well, largely. Also see the links in >>2805604

>>2805662

NOPE, more like Hivemind.

I'm not those other guys.

I just get upset when I see Christians who don't believe in a God who can do big things. If their God isn't big enough to work actively in their life, why are they whipping it out of their pants and slapping people in the face with it?

This is what makes Atheists feel embarrassed for Christians.

>>2805672
MVP
most valuable post of the thread

the christians posting on 4chan are obviously trolls, but their arguments are from "real" christians.

nothing they've posted is something mainstream christians would disagree with.

my favorite is the "you've never tasted my god. allah akbar!"

Religion, especially ones like Christianity are slaves. Your savior was strung up on a cross like a common thief, and killed by mortals. Let him save the weak from there. nature and Evolution have no such use for a slave-king like your Christ; the quicker you die and rot, the quicker your worthless flesh can be used to fertilize the strong, the individuals unpersuaded by your pathetic delusions of "peace." bow down before your dying God, and turn the other cheek while you're struck to the ground by men who have obtained true liberty through power.

>>2805687

Likely because you samefagged a reply to your own homosexual fantasy posting.

>>2805687

I second that notion

Alright, this thread needs to die now.

>>2805701

The AMDG dude is fucking serious about christianity. that's why I stayed up till 2 and used one of these bad boys in the pic. I think I was able to pry open his closed mind just a little bit.

>>2805680
most likely a small band of people, who came into Canaan and converted a few cities. There is not evidence for a glorious "conquest" as the bible puts it. Hell, the languages of the Israelites, the Moabites the Amonites and the Edomites formed a dialect continuum.
The only difference is a third of the world reads Israel's 'holy writings' instead of any of the others

>>2805722

guys, it was a revolution of the poor caananites against the rich ones.

proof in this PBS video

http://video.pbs.org/video/1051895565

>>2805718

I also proved correct one of the major rules of religion threads: When atheists start calling you names, it means they lost the argument.

>>2805704
Nope, I don't even know who that guy is, I just like how he turned this retarded atheist vs. christians thread into something comical.

>>2805728
yeah I know, I've seen that and I'm not arguing against it

>>2805730

he posted a lot on that board called new.

he was definitely part of the reason why moot shut it down.

if you thought what he was saying was funny, he actually believes all of it. he isn't a troll, he seriously thinks he has a duty to god to defend his name.

>>2805722

Certainly we know that Jericho wasn't occupied in the 12th century BC. Also it appears that David and Solomon were small, local rulers/chieftains who did not rule over any sizable kingdom (which likely would have gained noticed in Egyptian and Mesopotamian records).

There doesn't seem to have been a real Israelite state until later, when Jehu is mentioned as paying tribute to the Assyrian king.

>>2805718
>>2805722
>>2805728
>>2805730
>>2805733
>>2805741

You should be b& for forgetting your sages.

>>2805685
they obviously don't take the accounts of people who don't have a similar experience.
Seems to me to be the same phenomenon as "alien abductees" seeing the same large eyed anthropomorphic aliens.

>>2805760
as should I

>>2805741
>he seriously thinks he has a duty to god to defend his name.

Well then, everyone still ITT. Check his posts, scroll down, report.

>>2805760
I see what you did there

>>2805766

see

>>2804968

good thread everybody

athiests win this round decisively

>>2805722

No, and it would appear that the Israelites had quite amicable relations with what were essentially kindred people that all shared a common language and culture.

>>2805792

Wrong. Nobody wins these threads. No matter what your beliefs are, everyone becomes an idiot for posting here.

>>2805808

nobody wins in war. You only beat up the other side to the point that they give up or stop moving. christians were clearly defeated in this thread.

>>2805801
Iroquois and Huron were descended from the same people but they were mortal enemies :P
Even related people fuck each others shit up. Nationalism is constructed as an extension of the natural instinct to protect oneself and one's family, it is only extended as far as ones authorities intend it.

>>2805174

...Libke?

Is that you?

>>2805775
Fuck that, and fuck his reasoning. That guy needs b&.

All OP said was that we don't need the christian right in politics. If that is over the line that faggot drew in the sand, REPORTED

300.