/sci/ - Science & Math

India might. How does it feel?

No, the only feasible means of developing an economic thorium reactor would be through an international effort.

>>2799449
China is going to beat the rest of the world in way more aspects than just nuclear energy. They have a 1+ billion population, in which the majority is a-ok with being subjugated by a fascist government. Can't really beat that..

>>2799481
HK fag here.

Nope. We understand the physics, and risks better than avg American.

PRC is going to be building 120 new nuclear. And some of that will BE THORIUM reactions.

>>2799492
I always thought HK is HK, and China is China. You honestly can't tell me that 300 million Chinese farmers are fully educated and informed about the physics involved in nuclear fission and can therefore assert the dangers and risks on an individual basis.

Motherland China says nuclear energy is good, therefore it is good.

>China
>huge EQ risk
>horrible communist engineering
>nuclear reactors

CHINA STRONG!

China is also building mega complexes within sections of major cities. Where tech will be a mainstay.

Large high rises that will blow away Seoul, Sydney and Tokyo.

>>2799511

Are you aware that a large part of a government's job is to make decisions on behalf of its citizens?

Do you think people who live in any country are informed enough to make any sort of policy decisions by consensus?

>>2799520

I heard that everyone in China has an IQ of 150+ and never does anything wrong. Also all of the articles they plagiarize weren't actually plagiarized at all. They were just getting their due for credit after they designed their study and received data... went back in time... and gave it to some random white guy for the lawls.

Japan is still going to build 12 new reactors that will be online in 2015.

This is what happens when the US neglects math/sci in high schools. Americans aren't able to make long term decisions on power utilities.

>>2799528
Well, of course that isn't to be guaranteed. But just take a look at e.g. Germany. People started mass-protesting the construction of a giant under-ground train terminal, when a report surfaced which said that this construction is basically a total waste of taxpayers money.

I don't know when China would have allowed its citizens to participate in any form to such an extent, instead of just beating the living shit out of some protesters.

But yeah, humans are generally quite stupid and most of them have no intention of actively participating into everyday politics - but at least in most democracies you technically have the right to voice your opinion.

>>2799513
The Chinese reactors are built by the French.

>>2799449
Maybe, but they got some major environmental issues to deal with in the next 20 years

Like the Gobe Desert swallowing Beijing, or the fact that they don't have enough water or food for their population

>>2799459

Doesn't India already have them? I know they have Thorium reactors but they might not have MS ones yet

>>2799542
The energy problems we face now need instant approval/no delays since construction takes half a decade.

Not a bean counter/retard citizens holding things up for decades.

>>2799458
And yet all the information I've read about thorium reactors is that they are the cheapest energy source known and that we've already worked out all the hard engineering problems.

>>2799542

Public participation is a total crapshoot, though (like, you know, "internet justice"). There may be some good results but there are still tards insisting that immunizations cause autism or lobbying to have creationism taught in schools. Totalitarian governments have their advantages. The US would at least use the metric system by now. I have to hand it to China for cracking down on the bullshit (Falun Gong, etc.).

And China's citizens do have a lot more power than you seem to think. There have been industrial projects stopped by citizen protests. I think most are comfortable with the government's decisions since they've had decades of sustained high growth.

Despite not liking nuclear reactors that much (not hurr durr catastrophe chernobyl bad nucklearrr durr) I fully support the use of Thorium reactors. Sounds great.

Shit Tyrone (murica) get your shit together.

>>2799569
What's your objection against nuclear?

>>2799579
Largely the nuclear waste produced and the potential devastating effects if something completely unexpected happens. However this does not seem to be a problem at all with Generation IV power plants so I'm looking forward to them. I just believe we can take care of our energy needs better by improving and funding more research into geothermal power plants and utilizing advanced drilling techniques so that it can be used everywhere.

>>2799593
EU here and Asia here.

America cannot into Gen IV.

You guys are 'penny wise', and restrict funding for upgrades to the NPPs, no? Politicians think upgrades are 'adding da badness to the world'

>>2799600
I'm Australian not American, and we don't even HAVE any nuclear power generation plants.

>>2799593
Nuclear would still be my preferred option. The waste issue will be solved soon enough I guess. Not suggesting that nuclear is better than Thorium.

>>2799608
Thorium IS nuclear. Different fuel cycle, but whatever.
>>2799600
America cannot into Gen IV even though they pioneered the things.

>>2799617
Yes we know, but the U-235 is typically referred to as nuclear. No need to grab at straws

Puff puff give

>>2799617
This

>>2799449
China is going to beat the west not only on the issue of reactors but are also already ahead of us on genetics, nano-materials and strong-AI.

Basic all our base in fields of "future" research now belong to the chinks.

>they think nuclear energy is the future

>>2800027
Your're face pic when they're right.